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Over 3 MILLION Unprocessed California Ballots Remain (Stop the "Missing Votes" Idiocy)
State of California ^ | November 9, 2012 | California Secretary of State

Posted on 11/10/2012 8:58:37 AM PST by Strategerist

Estimated Unprocessed Ballots for November 6, 2012, General Election

STATEWIDE:

Vote-By-Mail: 2,314,609

Provisionals: 922,446

Other*: 97,440

Estimated Total Remaining: 3,334,495

Updated: 11/9/2012 5:00 p.m.

(Excerpt) Read more at sos.ca.gov ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; election
Just in (Mostly Republican) Orange County ALONE, there are about 225,000 uncounted votes. That's one county of one state. Easy to see where the mythical "2 million missing Romney" votes are. They're just not counted.

To see so many conservative authors and bloggers, including those from fairly reputable sources, write articles about soemthing that didn't happen (McCain voters that stayed home) and THEN have 200 post FR threads where people get into hideous flamewars over "who stayed home" and have no one point out it's simply uncounted votes is frustrating.

1 posted on 11/10/2012 8:58:45 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

this happened all over and many military votes were not counted..republicans said nothing..


2 posted on 11/10/2012 9:01:34 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Strategerist

How can results be announced when there are so many uncounted votes? Will they be counted? Or?


3 posted on 11/10/2012 9:01:39 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

They will be counted.

There aren’t enough votes to change any results in California.

And if you look at CNN or NBC, the California results state “71% in”.

Even if the 71% wasn’t there, it’s obvious that California’s vote total reported on all the election websites are ridiculously low.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 9:04:39 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: faithhopecharity

Do you really think that California’s still-to-be-counted votes will change the outcome of the election? Maybe for local races, but nothing else.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 9:04:47 AM PST by GnL
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To: Strategerist

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/9/floridas-tainted-vote/#.UJ2uLrkpIAs.facebook

On election night, Mr. West had maintained a district-wide lead of nearly 2,000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections inexplicably “recounted” thousands of early ballots, resulting in an awfully convenient 4,400-vote shift in favor of the challenger. Observers on the scene charged incompetence, intimidation and possible fraud on the part of local election officials. Mr. West has asked a judge to impound the ballots and order a recount to set things straight.

Lawyers for the West campaign have been overseeing the process at the Riviera Beach vote tabulation center, and they told The Washington Times that they’re concerned about what they have been seeing. Temporary workers are helping the local staff oversee the count of absentee ballots, those damaged by voting machines and ballots in which the three pages have become separated. They are making new ballots to replace the damaged ones, and are required to mark them with the same votes. Florida law allows observers to be present during this process, however, election officials are effectively denying poll watchers an opportunity to keep tabs on what’s going on.

The local bureaucrats erected a physical barrier making it impossible for the observers to see the counting process. After repeated objections, observers were allowed to stand behind the people reproducing the ballots, but then the ballot workers blocked their view. The Republicans had no way to verify whether ballots were being accurately reproduced because they couldn’t see what was happening. In fact, an elderly man who stood up to try to get a better look was ordered to sit down. When he asked why, elections supervisor Susan Bucher called a sheriff’s deputy to have him escorted out of the building. Team West volunteer Ellen Snyder has also faced the wrath of the supervisory staff. “They screamed at me twice,” she said, because she asked questions. They threatened to have her removed as well.

Mrs. Bucher, a hyperpartisan Democrat, has infuriated the GOP. When responding to a court order to open polls to early voters on the Sunday before the election, she only informed local Democrats, not Republicans. During the week she told Republican observers that counting has ceased and they did not have to show up. Observers who came anyway saw the count continuing. On Friday, she ordered ballot workers to reproduce some ballots that were already reproduced and would not explain why.

The tactics being employed in the Sunshine State undermine the credibility of the final result. It’s hard to see how anything legitimate could come out of such a tainted counting procedure. It will be up to the State of Florida, or the House of Representatives, to determine who truly won the right to represent Floridians in the 18th District.

The Washington Times


6 posted on 11/10/2012 9:07:36 AM PST by mgist
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To: Strategerist

I’m sick of hearing how our side never voted, we did.

We have so many results and issues not making sense in WI, OH, FL, VA,PA and yet we hear about we did not get the vote out and lets move on and reach out.

Col Wst here is finding out republican votes were not counted and that widepread fraud has taken place but the GOP talks about reaching out instead and the mdia wants us ot move on so we don;t look at these strange results or how there are more votes than registered voters in Dem counties


7 posted on 11/10/2012 9:14:09 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: mgist

can we get all of this what you said and this fact out in the news section please.

Friday, November 9, 2012 - 22 Updates Posted Today and People You Can Contact! See FRIDAY UPDATES! *

Is this what Barack Obama calls a “ground game?” All things considered, on this page and elsewhere, Mitt Romney IS our President elect. Let’s do something about it!

I’ll be adding additional links on a regular basis and forwarding all of this information to Mitt’s campaign! Please send other links.

Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!

http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/

Fraud: Some told they already voted, others brag about voting multiple times

http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-told-they-already-voted-others-brag-about-voting-multiple-times

Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law

http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416

Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-gop-inspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/

[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]

Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/07/voter-fraud-watch-two-election-judges-replaced-after-illegal-activity-in-ohio/

Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2012/11/05/Why-the-Polls-are-Wrong-Poll-Shows-Electorate-is-R-6

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five-registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJrnpl7Imc0.facebook

via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?

Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign – And Yet…He Lost?
http://goo.gl/GB723

“You have to vote for Dems” NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
http://goo.gl/nn5CN

At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
http://goo.gl/jjCSX

Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
http://goo.gl/kNLFz

Obama’s pattern of disenfranchisement of the military vote
http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=48

Another Stolen Election? Election data HIGHLY suspicious AND the George Soros’ “Secretary of State Project” http://goo.gl/y1ybR

Yes, this is the same George Soros who owns part of the company in Spain Obama outsourced parts of the election to and who has been banned from Hungary because he tampered with elections there.

We will continue to add updates! Please check back often!

THURSDAY UPDATES:

From my friend Lynn Victory on Facebook:

“Thanks for what you are doing. My son is friends with a guy in the Romney campaign who has actually been on since 2008. He is not high up, but said that the O campaign bought high tech equipment to target county by county where the votes were needed in battle-ground states, so that they could “bus in the needed votes”. The guy would not say fraud, but that is fraud.”

Also this referral from Lynn:

White House Insider on Obama Steal the Votes Strategy (Just Before the Election)

“But…these Obama boys…they took it to a whole other level. Votes, donations…deals…it’s a lot more Putin than it is Clinton. Pay to play…Big Labor…this country never seen it at this level.”

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/01/white-house-insider-governor-romney-is-gonna-win-this-thing/

Voter fraud witnessed in Wisconsin by one of Mitt’s ORCA observers:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=387389068009997&set=a.362561847159386.84375.361783440570560&type=1&theater

via Lori Patriot on Facebook:

52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far

http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=92957

VIDEO: Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

In 2008, John McCain Ignored Vote Fraud to Avoid Civil Unrest
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302

[See what that got us?]

Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc

Massive voter fraud discovered in April
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

Is Voter Fraud Being Committed in Ohio? (Early Voting)
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/

FRIDAY UPDATES:

Pundit Press: What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html

Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138

“Did this Dirty Trick Get Obama Re-Elected?”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-this-dirty-trick-get-obama-elected/

Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States
http://www.prisonplanet.com/vote-fraud-expert-romney-votes-not-counted-in-key-states.html

“Could we fix an election? Sure, they would never know it.”
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/09/could-we-fix-an-election-sure-they-would-never-know-it/

Thousands of votes from our military troops uncounted or missing
http://www.examiner.com/article/cast-aside-thousands-of-votes-from-our-military-troops-uncounted-or-missing

Defense Department can’t put soldiers, ballots together
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/defense-department-cant-put-soldiers-ballots-together/

Voter fraud in Pennsylvania - Black Panthers return, GOP inspectors thrown out
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-conservative/2012/nov/6/voter-fraud-pennsylvania-black-panthers-return-gop/

Ohio fraudulent voter registration cards
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ohio-voter-registration-fraud/2012/11/03/id/462674

Ohio Residents Told They Already Voted When They Showed Up At the Polls Tuesday
http://godfatherpolitics.com/7942/ohio-residents-told-they-already-voted-when-they-showed-up-at-the-polls-tuesday/#.UJuBsqfTvHc.facebook

Poll Worker Puts Glendale Precinct’s Ballots on Car, Drives Away
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Ballots-Found-in-Glendale-Street-177720291.html

Referenced above, but with more information:

Two Ohio Election Judges Removed for Allowing Unregistered Voters to Cast Ballots
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/06/Report-Two-Election-Judges-Removed-By-Hamilton-County-Ohio-for-Allowing-Unregistered-Voters-to-Cast-Ballots

Democrat Admits He’s Voted FOUR Times Already
http://nation.foxnews.com/voter-fraud/2012/11/05/democrat-admits-hes-voted-four-times-already

Boston reports 129% voter turnout, 79% for Obama; 74% for Elizabeth Warren
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/35319922188/voter-fraud-boston-reports-129-voter-turnout-79-for

This one could be just a calibration issue, but not necessarily based on the programer’s testimony in the next link:

Voting machine swaps Romney for Obama
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20121031/NEWS03/310310009

Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY

VIDEO: Possible voter fraud in Pennsylvania — or just voting machine malfunction?
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/uwelectioneye/2012/11/06/possible-voter-fraud-in-pennsylvania/

Voter Fraud Complaint Filed against Florida Democrats
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/voter-fraud-Florida-Democrats/2012/10/05/id/458894

“Ballot Re-writers” Update from Allen Westhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299196730187117&set=a.198312883608836.34844.198021666971291&type=1&theater

“Half the Democratic ground game is voter turnout. The other half is voter fraud.”

Voter Fraud: Obama Won 108% of Registered Voters in Wood County, Ohio
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/voter-fraud-obama-won-%108-of-registered-voters-in-ohio-county/

Video: Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out on Voter Fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM

BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/breaking-st-lucie-county-florida-had-1411-turnout-obama-won-county

Between St. Lucie and Broward Counties, we have a pretty good idea what happened in Florida. Normal voting is what, 50% turnout? It doesn’t take many counties like this to affect an entire state by multiple percentage points.

All of these numbers between 99% (Pennsylvania) and 141.1% (Florida) turnout in dozens of counties in swing states makes me think Team Obama was panicking a lot just before the election, with Mitt up by 7% in certain early voting polls. They overcompensated so much the fraud is impossible to hide. I think they know it, which may be one reason Axelrod is stepping down. (Sound familiar Petraeus and Benghazi?)

As I told someone earlier today, this is who Obama is. This is who Chicago (the machine) is. Do we really want this to be who America is? Is this how we will define our elections from 2008 on? As Mitt says, “America can do better.” We must do better. We can’t let the message be out there that America will let this fraud go.

Want to do something about all of this? Tiffany Banks and Darin Southam forwarded me a list of people you can contact who are in the November 9, 2012 3:12 PM comment below.

Did you know voters can request a recount in certain states? (Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin!) Take a look at the comment by @RightonMainSt dated November 9, 2012 11:45 PM below for instructions! Mitt will have to ask in Colorado himself. (Yes, you Mitt!)

It has also been suggested that we ask Republican Secretaries of State NOT to certify the election until all questions about voter fraud are abated. Some people think this may provoke a crisis, but it can’t be worse than the one we are looking at for the next four years and the impact on generations to come! America NEEDS Mitt, and Mitt won fair and square. This was not a ballot stuffing competition but an election. Let’s make sure it’s counted that way!

Thank you all. Over 7,500 people have visited this page in the first 24 hours and I hope millions will see it eventually. Please pass it on! We can do this! (Yes we can!)

87 posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:07:57 AM by patriot08


8 posted on 11/10/2012 9:16:41 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Strategerist

I’ve taken the blinders off.
- still not done in Ohio approx 300k
- still not done in Florida
- approx. 775,000 uncounted in Washington as of Friday
- 520,000 - 631,000 uncounted in Arizona.
- pockets of uncounted East Coast “Sandy” areas
- mmilitary\absentee votes all over the country


9 posted on 11/10/2012 9:19:42 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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To: GnL

1. California is not only state with significant numbers of uncounted votes. 2. In Calif, there are several statewide ballot propositions including raising that state’s (already incredibly high) sales and income taxes, a union dues for politics measure, etc. The announced votes so far on these put them well within range of opposite final results if the 3 million uncounted votes are counted. 3. BHussein+
O’s “wins” in several key states are also very close and conceivably could go the other way if all legitimate votes are counted (and illegal ballots challenged). A presidential election is not concluded until the vote of the Electors (electoral college) and we won’t know who the electors will be until the ballots from last Tuesday are counted. I realize you know all this. I’m just wondering how the supposed “results” of any election can be “announced” when millions of ballots remain to be counted??? Do our votes count for anything if they’re not even counted , or not counted until after the winners (of whatever party) are proclaimed? Seem to recall much fairer elections in Animal Farm and the USSR. ? Hope I misunderstand ut


10 posted on 11/10/2012 9:21:07 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Strategerist
'estimated' means something.

Not likely the final total will equal the all time Republican high in 2004.

The Dems have a worse problem since they are many millions below their 2008 high.

Voters are missing ~ and, I believe, mostly incapacitated or DEAD!!!!

11 posted on 11/10/2012 9:24:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: dalebert

vote fraud in swing states doesn’t get a comment from the GOP either.

The GOP is just an arm of the Democrat Party in my mind now.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 9:26:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Strategerist
To see so many conservative authors and bloggers, including those from fairly reputable sources, write articles about soemthing that didn't happen

Many of those same conservative authors and bloggers bought into these garbage conspiracy theory about skewed polls and how one could sit down and "unskew" them. Just flat out embarrassing for our side how many conservatives completely lost the plot and allowed themselves to get taken in.

It get's worse as now we've got all this "they won because of fraud" stupidity. Something the Democrats trot out every time they lose as well. People just can't face the fact that the American public really did chose Obama yet again. Americans STILL want to like Obama and we just need to face that. Worse, we ran a bunch of terrible Senate candidates yet again and lost winnable races because of it. The people here who thought Akin would show the establishment by winning, and there were lots of foolish people who believed that was possible, should be utterly ashamed of how badly they misjudged that race and the Missouri public.

And now this missing vote idiocy. It's just sad.

13 posted on 11/10/2012 9:46:24 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: dalebert
republicans said nothing

Makes you think it was another set up like '08 to hand it over to the commies.

14 posted on 11/10/2012 9:49:14 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Strategerist

The joy I would have if after ALL the votes (and knocking out of all the FRAUD) were counted, Romney WON


15 posted on 11/10/2012 9:49:39 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Strategerist

Its not the votes that count...


16 posted on 11/10/2012 9:51:40 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: mgist

State of Florida just called for Obama


17 posted on 11/10/2012 10:02:56 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: bgill

“makes you think it was another set up”.....exactly


18 posted on 11/10/2012 10:04:16 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Strategerist
If the 61-39 ratio holds in CA, it should add another 1.3M to Romney's total. Also, check out OH, MI, AZ, OR, WA and NY at the cnn election map. I'll bet Romney ends up real close to Bush's 62M in 2004.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/main

19 posted on 11/10/2012 10:09:32 AM PST by Ken H
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To: manc

I believe John Fund wrote a book about voter fraud.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 12:16:53 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: GeronL
The GOP is just an arm of the Democrat Party in my mind now.

For some reason the #GOP is just laying down, why?

They have to know they'll never carry an important election again.

Cowardice? Are they complicit with the fraud?

21 posted on 11/10/2012 6:57:08 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri
Are they complicit with the fraud?

Yes. Do you remember the Sherlock Holmes story “The Hound of the Baskervilles”? The key to the mystery was the dog that didn’t bark.

This was for all the marbles. The Republicans should have gone to the wall to prevent this de-stuffing of the ballot boxes via electronic voting machines. This is where all the missing voters went. But they didn’t? Why?

The only logical conclusion is that the Democratic and Republican establishments sat down and declared a truce. These were the terms.

A few people in the polling industry (Silver) and the Mainstream Media (Stephanopolous) had the advance script.

Romney never saw it coming. His own party betrayed him because Jeb Bush couldn’t be elected this year, and Jeb doesn’t want to wait until 2020 to run. The parties have agreed that it’s “Game on!” for 2016. Tea Party people will be told they can choose between Jeb or Hillary.

What the Republican Establishment fears is someone they can’t control. They don’t want another Reagan who will rock the boat.

Do you recall Fred Thompson’s non-campaign in 2008? To prevent the nomination of someone outside the core group, the Republican Establishment brought in Thompson and others to function as football blockers. Their goal was to help McCain get across the goal line, which Thompson did by preventing conservatives from uniting behind one person. They knew McCain couldn’t win in that political climate, so it was a simple matter to tank that election by doing nothing.

Palin was a threat, so they joined her opposition in driving her out of the governorship, and then they co-opted her with a rich contract with Fox News. She is finished in politics, and they intend to keep her that way.

Did you notice how Gingrich, who was yesterday’s news, jumped in at just the right time in 2012? This was the same tactic, now aimed at keeping the Tea Party vote divided. The Republican Establishment wanted Romney, but they didn’t want him to win.

Pat Buchanan was right. The two parties are simply two wings on the same bird of prey. We have become Venezuela. The oligarchy now has a means to rig elections and a captive press, owned by just six companies, that will not investigate. Fearless investigators will meet the same fate as Breitbart.

22 posted on 11/10/2012 7:21:12 PM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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To: Strategerist
Check this out. It's a report on the 2008 election written on November 5, 2008.

It says Obama got 63M to McCain's 55.8M. I've seen reports putting McCain's final total ranging from 58M to 60M. So McCain added between 2.2 and 4.2M votes to the total reported the day after the election.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/election.president/

23 posted on 11/10/2012 7:31:37 PM PST by Ken H
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To: muleskinner
I believe John Fund wrote a book about voter fraud.

Looks like he wrote several.

http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Counting-Fraudsters-Bureaucrats-Your/dp/1594036187/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352604343&sr=8-1&keywords=john+fund

http://www.amazon.com/Stealing-Elections-Voter-Threatens-Democracy/dp/1594032246/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1352604446&sr=8-2&keywords=john+fund

http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Threatens-Undermine-Elections-Broadsides/dp/1594034613/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1352604473&sr=8-3&keywords=john+fund

24 posted on 11/10/2012 7:32:18 PM PST by thecodont
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To: riri
For some reason the #GOP is just laying down, why?

The short answer.

Habit.

25 posted on 11/10/2012 7:33:43 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Publius; manc
You are absolutely correct. That is the only scenario that makes any sense.

That might be the clearest, most insightful post I have read on here to date.

26 posted on 11/10/2012 7:44:42 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: publius911
More thoughts this AM, It didn't appear ROmney knew, it seemed her really believed he was going to win. However, what nags at me are two things, well three:

Why did he lay down so hard in that third debate?

It's said that he immediately cancelled all staffs credit cards. Literally, some went to pay cab drivers on the way home and found the cards disabled.

Why did he concede so quickly?

It's all so disheartening. I believe we are headed for a global, authoritarian system and nothing is going to stop it.

27 posted on 11/11/2012 9:39:15 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Publius

Excellent post.

Conservatives need to leave the GOP. Let it go extinct without us.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 10:10:01 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Strategerist
It appears to be mostly whites who voted for Obama who stayed home. Just not enough of them for him to lose, since his 2008 margin was so high. Perhaps these were people who were alienated by politics or disliked both parties, but simply bought into Obama's "transformational" rhetoric. Or perhaps they were swing voters we had a chance with, but Romney turned them off. Research really needs to be done into why so many former Obama voters stayed home instead of voting for McCain.

It's looking now like about as many people showed up as in 2004, except the results were flipped between R and D this time. But the extra voters who came out in 2008 disappeared.

29 posted on 11/11/2012 10:15:16 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: Publius
Did you notice how Gingrich, who was yesterday’s news, jumped in at just the right time in 2012? This was the same tactic, now aimed at keeping the Tea Party vote divided. The Republican Establishment wanted Romney, but they didn’t want him to win.

What are you talking about? Gingrich joined the primary early in 2011 when everyone else did. The establishment kneecapped him out of the gate to help Romney by piling on him over his criticism of the Ryan plan. He then clawed his way back up by showing his true Tea Party bonafides in the debates. He was the ONLY threat to the Republican establishment in the primary and they in conjunction with Romney pulled out all the stops to destroy him.

30 posted on 11/11/2012 10:19:19 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: Publius

“His own party betrayed him because Jeb Bush couldn’t be elected this year, and Jeb doesn’t want to wait until 2020 to run.”

Thank you for your post - it makes a lot of sense.

Regarding Romney being betrayed because of the elites actually wanting Jeb, I had this same thought but wondered if I were giving in to thoughts of conspiracy that had no basis.

I actually started wondering months ago why on Earth Rove wanted Romney to win, when he’s wanting Jeb Bush to run. I think you’re over the target, unfortunately for the USA.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 10:19:33 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Publius

The Washingtonians stick together, these elections are just to see which faction (communist or blue blood country club banker) gets to control the money they extort under penalty of imprisonment from us working chumps outside of the Beltway.

People still looking to DC to do anything other than raise taxes and take away more freedom no matter which faction is in charge are seriously demented.

Thanks to the imposition of Universal Suffrage via Constitutional Amendment and a media that serves as the Washingtonian propaganda machine, there is no electoral solution to the Washingtonian problem.

Unless the terrorists do us a favor and take it out (unlikely, since even they know the political class in DC make them look like the Salvation Army), the Washingtonians will be there until they steal our last dime.

Then the collapse and reset will begin.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 10:32:57 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY)
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To: Publius

Frightening...but quite plausible.


33 posted on 11/11/2012 3:39:16 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Publius

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that many in ‘talk radio’ has the script, as well. We are all being played.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 3:47:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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