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The Voters Who Stayed Home (The Key to Understanding the Results of the 2012 Elections)
National Review ^ | 11/10/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Longbow1969

Well, as pathetic as my vote totals were, you got the exact same result, notwithstanding all your vaunted money and power. We both lost. The margin is completely irrelevant in the end.

And I didn’t spend one dime of my own or anyone else’s money to do it. What did Romney and his pals shell out, a cool billion?


241 posted on 11/10/2012 11:20:59 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: DancingMyRainbow

I don’t nbelieve it’s the media’s fault that Romney didn’t say anything that would have helped.

When pressed on how tax rates can be reduced and revenue not go down, there’s only one answer. “More people with jobs paying taxes”. Romney consistently failed to answer that question.

Same goes for the spending cuts: “We plan to reduce transfer payments by putting people to work so that they can support themselves” is a better answer than “defund Sesame Street”.

Face it: Our team dropped the ball. We ran a Big Government liberal Republican, with an image problem; they ran a liar.


242 posted on 11/10/2012 11:24:44 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: supremedoctrine
Yeah, the GOP-E formally started its campaign to discourage and undermine a nascent Palin candidacy just before the 2010 election (as the article reveals), when it was clear that a lot of the forthcoming TEA party freshmen were going to owe her some big favors after taking over the House.

Rove, Gillespie, Rollins, etc. were quite clear that they feared her more than they feared Obama, and so two years later, here we are---Obama victorious, Palin effectively banished from the Republican Party, and the TEA party movement in disarray.

The GOP-E will reap the whirlwind because of what it set in motion then, just to try and protect its own DC-beltway power.

243 posted on 11/10/2012 11:26:34 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Palin won’t run because she is too white. She would lose and she knows that by now. She also could not get the people who liked Romney after this loss. Payback is hell.

You really think that gaggle of illegal immigrant new citizens are going to vote for Palin?

uh, no


244 posted on 11/10/2012 11:39:11 AM PST by dforest
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To: keats5
Then we need closed primaries, state by state.

Finally... some one who "get's it," and who might remember the Primary Tournament before 2016... provided there is a 2016...

245 posted on 11/10/2012 11:47:03 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Timber Rattler

The fear of Palin by establishment Republicans is based on her performance in office; she cleaned house of corrupt politicans in Alaska when she was Governor.

This crap about her inablity to handle hard questions is obvious - it is a smoke screen.

She was excluded from the Convention and Romney, though pressured to offer her the VP slot, did not do so. He was quite adamant that she not be involved in his campaign as well.

For those who level the charge that Palin did nothing to help Romney in his run for the Presidency, the truth is he excluded her from being involved.

When a Congressman goes to Washington, D.C., and returns home a few years later as a multi-millionaire, then we know corruption is rife in our government and desperately needs a thorough mucking out of accumulated manure.

No wonder people like Boehner and McConnell are terrified of her being President.


246 posted on 11/10/2012 11:51:42 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sorry, there is no way in hell anyone can convince me that more Republicans stayed home this time vs. McCain. I believe fewer Republican votes were counted, don’t believe fewer Republicans stayed home though.

Can we come up with a new term for the “I’ll stay home unless the candidate is perfect” types so that it’s easier to write ?

We have RINOs on one extreme how about:
RUINERs — Repulican Unless I’m Exactly Represented.


247 posted on 11/10/2012 11:52:21 AM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


248 posted on 11/10/2012 12:03:03 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: MissMagnolia; sirchtruth; CommerceComet
GOPe didn't give us Romney and McCain (and they didn't want McCain either in 08). Primary voters did. They made the choice. It wasn't my choice. I voted Santorum.

The GOP leadership is made up of the choice of precinct delegates. Precinct delegates are usually unopposed and sometimes there are opening. These delegates choose party leadership in the counties. These delegates choose state delegates. State delegates choose district and state leadership.

So are any of you complaining about "GOPe" doing something to change GOPe? As Marco Rubio told those in 2010 when "leadership" pushed Democrat Charlie Crist - Pick a better establishment.

It's a long term process and it takes work and time in more than just election year.

249 posted on 11/10/2012 12:03:18 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: SeekAndFind
That is not materially different from what the Democrats believe. It’s certainly not an alternative. For Americans who think elections can make a real difference, Tuesday pitted proud progressives against reticent progressives; slightly more preferred the true-believers. For Americans who don’t see much daylight between the two parties — one led by the president who keeps spending money we don’t have and the other by congressional Republicans who keep writing the checks and extending the credit line — voting wasn’t worth the effort.

In practice -- in an imperfect world -- can we really expect anything else?

It sounds like Andrew McCarthy thinks the non-voters were Tea Party conservatives.

Maybe some were, but I suspect most were the perennial disaffected people who just don't trust politicians of any ideological stripe.

250 posted on 11/10/2012 12:06:34 PM PST by x
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To: Lakeshark
Party elections are coming up in the next three months.

I wonder how many complaining about GOPe will be precinct delegates involved in picking party leadership.

251 posted on 11/10/2012 12:11:02 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unbelievable!

People are still trying to nit pick and analyze this election when all it amounts to is a MASSIVE FRAUD.

252 posted on 11/10/2012 12:11:29 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

The ideas I espoused were nothing but grief and anger at the loss of my country...all the name calling I was doing shows that.

I see 2 lines of argument. One appears to believe that 2016 will give Conservatives a chance to correct 2012 because the GOP will have gotten the message.

Another line is that those who sat out the election willingly cost us the country.

I think it is too late for the first...the country is dead.

So what do we do. We rebuild. This time not in Republican/Democrat framework but in Christ. My behavior on this thread has been anything Christian and I have recognized that.

So now we build out from our churches, cities, counties, states. And what we build this time we will be forever full of power and grace. It will be Christ and true liberty.

This is what must now rise out of the wreckage. I won’t fight for anything else.


253 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:00 PM PST by carton253
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To: Hugh the Scot

The ideas I espoused were nothing but grief and anger at the loss of my country...all the name calling I was doing shows that.

I see 2 lines of argument. One appears to believe that 2016 will give Conservatives a chance to correct 2012 because the GOP will have gotten the message.

Another line is that those who sat out the election willingly cost us the country.

I think it is too late for the first...the country is dead.

So what do we do. We rebuild. This time not in Republican/Democrat framework but in Christ. My behavior on this thread has been anything Christian and I have recognized that.

So now we build out from our churches, cities, counties, states. And what we build this time we will be forever full of power and grace. It will be Christ and true liberty.

This is what must now rise out of the wreckage. I won’t fight for anything else.


254 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:00 PM PST by carton253
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To: Hugh the Scot

The ideas I espoused were nothing but grief and anger at the loss of my country...all the name calling I was doing shows that.

I see 2 lines of argument. One appears to believe that 2016 will give Conservatives a chance to correct 2012 because the GOP will have gotten the message.

Another line is that those who sat out the election willingly cost us the country.

I think it is too late for the first...the country is dead.

So what do we do. We rebuild. This time not in Republican/Democrat framework but in Christ. My behavior on this thread has been anything Christian and I have recognized that.

So now we build out from our churches, cities, counties, states. And what we build this time we will be forever full of power and grace. It will be Christ and true liberty.

This is what must now rise out of the wreckage. I won’t fight for anything else.


255 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:00 PM PST by carton253
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To: driftless2
Looks like your boy didn't get elected. What did you do wrong?

/johnny

256 posted on 11/10/2012 12:15:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: carton253

Sorry for the 3 posts. Using a smart phone and its smarter than me.


257 posted on 11/10/2012 12:18:06 PM PST by carton253
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To: muawiyah

“Absent a really vigorous voter registration program, the number of Republican voters should decline”

bingo!!! and ditto

you hit a target I have been harping on for ten years

a target Obama & Acorn altered on the Dim side for 2008

a target the GOP & its unofficial allied organizations have not taken up with any great and orgranized effort, ever

in Hew Jersey, in 2004, the unregistered citizens represented more than 200% of the voter margin by which Bush lost the state; some other states likely have such a wide discrepancy between eligible voters and registered voters


258 posted on 11/10/2012 12:18:29 PM PST by Wuli
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To: carton253

You will have my help in that fight.


259 posted on 11/10/2012 12:29:03 PM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: Hugh the Scot

Good...because as the country falls apart...the glory of God will shine ever brighter.


260 posted on 11/10/2012 12:35:44 PM PST by carton253
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