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Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated
canadafreepress.com ^

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:17 PM PST by tsowellfan

Republicanism was founded on a premise that all men are created equal. It is time we return to those values

Washington, DC – Mat Staver, Chairman of Liberty Counsel Action and Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, responds to the 2012 election:

“The political philosophy of the Republican Party and Governor Mitt Romney during the presidential campaign was to downplay social issues and focus solely on jobs and the economy. Four year ago, McCain, like Romney, could not and would not articulate the full panoply of conservative values. Their strategy didn’t work in 2008, and it didn’t work in 2012...

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; republicans; teaparty
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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:25 PM PST by tsowellfan
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Milton Friedman had the message and it's one we need to spread!
2 posted on 11/09/2012 4:06:10 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: tsowellfan
Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated

While I will not moderate my values, I question whether clearly articulating them will help. I have talked to more than a few "takers" recently. They do not want things articulated, they want things given to them. While we articulate, they take, and continue to vote for the one who promises to give them the most. My gut feeling is, this will continue till the whole system comes crashing down, but hey, what do I know, I am just a working stiff.

3 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:58 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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Conservative need a national TV news network on Cable. The website CNS, for example, would be great.

The left is already having a fit for a more fair and balanced news network which is more center than anything (FOX) but we still have no cable news network to counter balance cnn, cBS and MSNBC


4 posted on 11/09/2012 4:18:25 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: Mark17

The ‘Progressive’ machine is very good at two things:
Branding (Madison Avenue experts)
and
teaching dependency on government largess. They can take the soul right out of an individual by giving them stuff for free.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 4:30:44 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: tsowellfan
I don't think the problem is that people naively misunderstand conservative positions. They misrepresent them to rationalize taking up a feel-good package that offers free stuff to the poor, and absolves the well-to-do of any guilt for their own hypocritical lifestyles. It's a little optimistic to think that this voting trend has been one big mistake, and people just didn't know what the other side was offering. People aren't dumb as much as they are immoral. In the Soviet Union, people knew the system was horrible, but no one was willing to give up their privileges, first--so they all miserably carried on until there was nothing left. That said, on the personal responsibility front, it would be nice to start chipping away at the Marxism being taught in the public schools and universities. Articulating positions over there would go a long way in trickling down some sense to the rest of society.
6 posted on 11/09/2012 4:32:11 PM PST by GlaucusRising
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To: GlaucusRising

Nicely put, and welcome to FR.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 4:33:43 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: tsowellfan
Running a fake conservative was doomed from the start.

Look for more of the same in 2016.

Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, etc.

Republicanism is compromised, ruined and failed. Corrupted.

Conservatism is alive and well, just not in the GOP.

Principles are not principles if you put party ahead of them.

Moderation is compromise. Compromising principles are why we are where we are.

How can a candidate articulate values they do not have?

How can a candidate articulate values their entire careers demonstrate the opposite?

How can a candidate articulate values their party rejects?

Turn out the lights, the party's over.

Conservatism is not just articulated, it is a way of life.

8 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:52 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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Dunno, I think Mitt did as good a job as possible of stepping into the “severely conservative” shoes.

I do think he waited too long to come on strong, though. Even fiscally, if he was wobbling on social issues. For most people it WAS “the economy, stupid.” And Mitt had credible answers. But he evangelized them for too short of a time, while failing to point out what a mess a second, lame duck iteration of Barack would make.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 4:49:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Manic_Episode

conservatism was dealt a blow from which it is unlikely to ever fully recover. Moderate or don’t, it doesn’t matter. America built its house and now we’re all going to have to live in it until it burns to the ground.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 5:00:49 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: tsowellfan

Exactly. and we need our George Soros’ to buy news outlets and become owner activists. I have no unrealistic expectations. But we need to at least slow down our enemies efforts.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 5:11:00 PM PST by plain talk
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To: GlaucusRising

Yep. Good points. Never underestimate the power of effective propaganda. conservatism has not been articulated well (which is true). But it is worse than that. Conservatism has misrepresented, slandered and lied about. We have to get people to un-learn a lot of biases.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 5:22:19 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

I agree.

Newt Gingrich wants to have a Regis type TV show with him and his wife Callista. Maybe that can be part of the morning line-up.

Perhaps 12n-3pm Rush can do what Imus does on TV

Nothing against Hannity but he’s already on Fox where he should stay.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 5:25:46 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: tsowellfan
"Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated"

Our conservative principles not only need to be clearly articulated, but they need to be linked to historical successes, assigned some kind of numerical or monetary value, and most of all be distilled into a simple, effective phrase that will resonate with the average voter. We failed to motivate.

For example, Obama has used: "Yes, we can!" (and its Spanish equivalent), "Hope and Change", "Change We Can Believe In", and this year he used, "Bin Laden is Dead and Detroit is Alive" and "Forward!"

What did we have? "Reform, Prosperity and Peace", "A Cause Greater than Itself", and "Country First" (McCain) and "Believe in America",

Now, if you are trying to compare the two tactics, you'll see immediately that Obama's are far simpler, direct and future looking. Perhaps more importantly, they speak to a group of people. McCain and Romney's slogans are abstract, directionless and time-independent. Can you see why Obama attracted so many people?

We owe it to ourselves to do better.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 5:50:16 PM PST by opticks
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To: tsowellfan

The sad fact is that most politicians have no core beliefs, they are actors playing a role they think gives them the best chance to get elected.

Mitt did a piss-poor job of acting like a Conservative, when he tried to throw red meat at Conservatives (the “47%” quote), it came off as incredibly politically tone deaf.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 5:53:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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The Republican Party was dealt a blow, not conservatism.

A conservative was not their nominee, a counterfeit conservative career liberal was.

Conservatism is alive and well my friend.

Tough times are coming and I see nothing but teachable moments and opportunity on the horizon.

I am so not defeated.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:37 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode

I guess you missed every single senate race.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 7:32:35 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Dunno, I think Mitt did as good a job as possible of stepping into the “severely conservative” shoes."

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Problem was those shoes were 10 sizes too big and did not fit Mitts career liberal feet.

18 posted on 11/09/2012 7:34:48 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: RC one
I did notice the House results. I am encouraged my rep, Bachmann, indeed won.
19 posted on 11/09/2012 7:44:17 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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we had 242 seats going into the race and we have 233 coming away from it. We lost ground though we held the battlefield for now.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:08 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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