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UN Small Arms Treaty Means Big Changes for our Constitution
Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-11-09 12:53:04 | mrcurmudgeon

Posted on 11/09/2012 12:21:58 PM PST by morethanright

By Mr. Curmudgeon:

Flush with a new sense of purpose after his re-election victory, President Obama signaled his administration's support for the United Nations Small Arms Treaty. What follows are two of the treaty's provisions:

That means every firearm, its various parts and ammunition will be regulated. And you, the "end-user," will earn the privilege of having your name recorded in an international registry.

"That can't happen here," you say, "The Supreme Court's 2010 ruling in District of Columbia vs. Heller denies the feds, the states and local authorities the power to restrict my 'right to bear arms.'"

If you believe so, you are dead wrong.

Most Americans believe the only way the United States Constitution can be revised is when Congress passes an amendment for the states to ratify. However, the president and Senate can do just that by signing and ratifying an international treaty. And just in case you have forgotten, Fast and Furious Democrats control the White House and Senate.

In 1920, the Supreme Court's ruling in Missouri vs. Holland said the Constitution's treaty-making provision (the Supremacy Clause) means that international agreements entered into by the United States are the "supreme law of the land." The issue in the case concerned the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. The U.S.-British agreement limited the hunting of certain endangered birds. The State of Missouri contested the treaty for violating their 10th Amendment state's rights.

Progressive Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, writing for the high court's majority, established a line of legal reasoning that persists to this day: That changing times requires rethinking the interpretation of our dusty and antiquated Constitution.

"... We must realize that they [the Founders] have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters," wrote Holmes, "... We must consider what this country has become in deciding what that [10th] amendment has reserved."

In other words, the "Truths" the Founders declared to be "Self-Evident" are malleable clay. The Constitution is not a parchment containing the steadfast certitude of law but a living and evolving "being." More importantly, there is no need to exercise the constitutionally sanctioned remedies to amend the document when we have nine erudite high priests who are better suited to the task.

When President Obama signs the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, and if the Democratic Senate ratifies it, the Constitution's Supremacy Clause - as interpreted by Holmes - effectively removes our Second Amendment protection from the founding document.

It's more than a little ironic that an early 20th century treaty, designed to save birds, effectively renders us a nation of sitting ducks.

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1 posted on 11/09/2012 12:22:05 PM PST by morethanright
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To: morethanright

Why don’t we defund the UN, since we are the major contributor to their existence.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 12:24:01 PM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: morethanright

It will never be ratified in the Senate.
Not even Obama’s Senate.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 12:24:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

It’s a rubber stamp Congress.

Anyone who believes a treaty should override the Constitution is a traitor


4 posted on 11/09/2012 12:28:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: morethanright
UN Small Arms Treaty Means Big Changes for our Constitution

Our Constitution Means UN Small Arms Treaty Don't Mean Squat!

5 posted on 11/09/2012 12:29:11 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: morethanright

2/3 senate vote for ratification....

can’t say it WON’T happen, but it is highly improbable..

and the supremacy clause does not apply, the UN is not supreme to the US Constitution...


6 posted on 11/09/2012 12:29:19 PM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: morethanright
NO!
7 posted on 11/09/2012 12:33:23 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: mylife

‘Democrat’ and ‘Ratify’ have the word Rat in them. The Senate has the word ate in it. It also has ‘sen’, very close to ‘sin’. Combine the two and it’s easy to come up with ‘defy’.

Wonderful...

Sinning rats ate away at our rights, and defy us.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 12:34:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: mylife

If it is ratified by the Senate, any Senator voting ‘Aye’ will instantly become fodder for the 100 million Henry Bowman’s born on that day.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 12:37:06 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: joe fonebone

Not trying to give you a hard time, but neither party gives a fudge popsicle about our Constitution anymore.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 12:37:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: morethanright

Communist Tyrant Barry Davis Obama has many tests that must be met before he lowers himself to make a speech-action. Some of these tests are as follows:

1.) Will this speech-action fundamentally change America?

2.) Will this speech-action increase the power of the rulers over the ruled?

3.) Will this speech-action exact a significant amount of REVENGE on Americans who dare to oppose the implementation of Obamanation Communism?

IMHO, a speech-action by Communist tyrant Obama approving the destruction of our Right to Bear Arms would greatly pass all of the above 3 tests.

Thus, as an empty-chair tyrant, Communist Obama may make an additional “Boy, do I ever love the Middle Class!” Speech from time to time, but Corporate Jet Travel and time on the Golf Links are still ranked higher on the list of really fun things to do for the Illegal Alien Impostor in the White House.

BTW, with our sorry, spineless, RINO leaders back in Congress, Obama is going to REALLY enjoy the next 4 years!


11 posted on 11/09/2012 12:38:36 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: morethanright

The Constitution supercedes treaties, not the other way around.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 12:41:21 PM PST by green iguana
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To: morethanright

Time to dust off Travis’ EFOD books and do some more reading this weekend.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 12:42:47 PM PST by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: morethanright

Anytime any federal agent decides to obey orders to confiscate guns, it should be a fatal decision.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 12:43:27 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, the Catholic Church is illegal.)
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To: morethanright

To those that refused to vote for “love of country”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfcim_p38w&feature=related


15 posted on 11/09/2012 12:43:55 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: joe fonebone

I would almost bet that the RINO’s mother lovers in the Senate would help pus this through, but outlawing guns and getting them are two different things.

Sometimes a push like this is a “Bridge too far”.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 12:45:43 PM PST by Venturer
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To: DoughtyOne

Amen Brother.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 12:46:46 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Heartland Mom

The Republicans control the House. So, what if they just kinda ‘forgot’ to put in any new funding?..........


18 posted on 11/09/2012 12:51:49 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: GeronL

In my estimation 25% of the most liberal loons at DU are 2nd amendment supporters
I don’t see 2/3rds of the Senate ratifying this and WE Control the Congress.
Even Tojo understood.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 12:52:31 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: green iguana

You are wrong about that. Look it up.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 12:53:19 PM PST by Solidstatechemist (SolidStateChemist)
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To: mylife

They only need 2/3s of the Senators PRESENT. So, if there are enough Senators present to form a quorum, then a 2/3s vote of those Senators can ratify the treaty.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 12:56:13 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: morethanright

All over America, there are a lot of “Liberty Trees” which will need some serious “Refreshing”.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 1:00:40 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: GeronL

Furthermore, there is a movement afoot in this nation that defies this weeks election results.

Walmart is selling AR15s and all the accessories.
Walmart has sig sauer AR’s on special for black friday.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 1:01:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Solidstatechemist; green iguana
No SSC, you're the one who needs some research :

As statutes may be held void because they contravene the Constitution, it should follow that treaties may be held void,
the Constitution being superior to both. And indeed the Court has numerous times so stated.

caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution


24 posted on 11/09/2012 1:04:07 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Little Ray

Fair enough.I know Obama is dumb enough to do it.
Will The Senate?
I doubt it.

Hell they can’t round up the illegals in this nation and deport them.
How will they round up gazillions of guns?


25 posted on 11/09/2012 1:04:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: morethanright

Time to scout out local hog farms.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: morethanright

They can pass it. Then let’s see them try to enforce it...


27 posted on 11/09/2012 1:07:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: tomkat

Thanks tomkat - I wasn’t going to bother.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 1:12:48 PM PST by green iguana
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To: mylife

Why not? Only 2/3s of Senators PRESENT are needed to pass a treaty.

The trouble is the 17th Amendment. It was ratified and adopted in 1913. When did Holmes make his ruling?

If you wonder how we got our IRS and income tax take a look at Arizona’s statehood. We’ve been coopted for a long, long time.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:00 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Dead Corpse

They can pass it. Then let’s see them try to enforce it...

They can’t even enforce immingration laws and the mountain of laws they have on the books, but they do selectively enforce them...

They will most certainly selectively enforce this law because the Republic is over....

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

Goldwater was right and will continue to be proven right...


30 posted on 11/09/2012 1:22:57 PM PST by GraceG
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To: morethanright

It is time to join the NRA.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 1:33:27 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy
It is time to join the NRA.

I'll put it bluntly: screw the NRA, join your local militia.

32 posted on 11/09/2012 1:38:02 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tomkat

Okay, Mr. tomkat, and Mr. green iguana, there’s one to you! I will take some comfort in Reid v. Covert, (if I can trust information garnered off the web in short order) but I must say, that I still will remain uneasy that the Bricker Amendment and other efforts since then have always failed. In this day and age, I would like more assurance, rather than less. Be assured I will be doing more research on the subject.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 1:39:08 PM PST by Solidstatechemist (SolidStateChemist)
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To: morethanright

calling BS on this article. i mean really, get serious


34 posted on 11/09/2012 1:46:04 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Solidstatechemist
Relax .. eventually it'll come down to millions of individual decisions .. die on your feet in the face of whatever tyrant is beating on your door, or hop on up into the boxcars.
35 posted on 11/09/2012 1:48:08 PM PST by tomkat
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To: morethanright
A Treaty accepted by the President and passed by 2/3rds of the Senate becomes, according to the Constitution “the law of the land”. This makes it the equivalent of a law passed by Congress.

No law passed by Congress can supercede the U.S. Constitution and the rights recognized therein.

A treaty can be judged to be Unconstitutional. No free man needs to follow a law that abridges their natural rights - and the people have a natural right to keep and bear arms.

36 posted on 11/09/2012 1:51:44 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: morethanright

I foresee underground gun swaps and sales. No FFL’s allowed, and most of all, a juried admittance room.
No cell phones or other electronics allowed inside, not even pace makers.
And then I woke up, yawn.......
Wow! What a dream I just had, I can’t believe it.. Whew
Sometimes my meds really induce some way out dreamland adventures.
I’d better make an appointment with Doc.
Semper Fi!


37 posted on 11/09/2012 1:55:35 PM PST by Wi40
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To: Red Badger

Republicans - Not Conservatives - control the house. Look at Boehner and decide for yourself if there is a chance they will EVER do the right thing.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 2:24:09 PM PST by nomobs
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To: tomkat

How about shooting the tyrant beating on your door and blowing the rails so the box cars don’t run.

Initiating violence is wrong. Defense is just.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 2:25:35 PM PST by Ray76 ("We're ready to be led" - John Boehner, leader of the opposition)
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To: Ray76
That


+ 1

40 posted on 11/09/2012 2:30:00 PM PST by tomkat
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To: morethanright

Treaties are made to be broken, just ask any Indian. Still, we should get out of the UN and kick them out.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 2:31:45 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: morethanright

There still is not 67 votes in the senate for it. Obama can sign it a hundred times but it is not going to be ratified.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 2:51:02 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mylife
It will never be ratified in the Senate. Not even Obama’s Senate.

EXACTLY! Just like when Scott Brown was elected, there was no way they were going to be able to pass Obamacare.

Oh, wait......

43 posted on 11/09/2012 2:54:21 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: tomkat
Relax .. eventually it'll come down to millions of individual decisions .. die on your feet in the face of whatever tyrant is beating on your door, or hop on up into the boxcars.

I may die, but I'm taking one bastard with me.

44 posted on 11/09/2012 2:55:55 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

You and me both .. proudly channeling Patrick Henry


45 posted on 11/09/2012 3:05:11 PM PST by tomkat
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To: green iguana

“The Constitution supercedes treaties, not the other way around.”

WRONG! All native American treaties supercede it. Upheld three times by SCOTUS.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 3:06:54 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Correct. And I don't give a rat's a$$ if a senate ratifies it.

They're know that we would start shooting at them if they passed something like this so, it's a no-go.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 3:32:43 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: joe fonebone
IIRC, it only takes fifty-one senators to be present to conduct business. two-thirds of that is thirty four. That would be all it would take for it to be ratified.

Coming soon...

48 posted on 11/09/2012 3:39:38 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: morethanright

US out of the UN, UN off US soil!


49 posted on 11/09/2012 4:07:22 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There are 20 dem senators who are up for re-election in 2014.

One would think that those not in heavily dem states would think twice before ratifying this so-called treaty.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 5:33:00 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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