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Some Thoughts On The Catholic Vote
http://www.catholicleague.org ^ | November 9, 2012 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 11/09/2012 9:46:30 AM PST by NKP_Vet

Catholics are a quarter of the electorate, and they voted for Obama over Romney by the same margin as the total electorate, 50%-48%. Contrary to what many pundits are saying, this suggests that the bishops’ campaign for religious liberty, waged against the Health and Human Services mandate, actually paid off: Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote in 2008 to McCain’s 45%.

Some commentators talk about the Catholic vote as if it were monolithic, and others say it doesn’t exist. It would be more accurate to say there are four Catholic votes: practicing and non-practicing; white and Latino.

Among practicing Catholics, Obama received 42% to Romney’s 57%; among non-practicing Catholics, Obama picked up 56% while Romney got 42%.

White Catholics gave Obama 40% of their votes while Romney earned 59%; Latino Catholics gave Obama 71% of their votes while Romney earned 27%.

From previous survey research published by the Pew Forum, we know that practicing Latino Catholics are less likely to support the Democrats than are non-practicing Latinos.

What this shows is that the more practicing a Catholic is, of any ethnic background, the less likely he is to support the more secular of the candidates.

Finally, there is a serious question whether non-practicing Catholics should be considered Catholic. By way of analogy, if someone tells a pollster that he is a vegetarian, but has long since been a veggie-only eater, would it make empirical sense to count him as a vegetarian? Self-identity is an interesting psychological concept, but it is not necessarily an accurate reflection of a person’s biography.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2012; catholicvote; christianvote; romney2012; sourcetitlenoturl
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Translation. Hypocrites that don't practice their faith voted for Obama, no matter what demonination. Romney got the ones that actually try to live their faith. But we have more hypocrites than real Christians so the communist carried the day.
1 posted on 11/09/2012 9:46:32 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Excommunicate them.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 9:49:30 AM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NKP_Vet

Re-translation: spriritual revival has the side benefit of an electorate that makes better choices.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 9:51:45 AM PST by Skulllspitter
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To: NKP_Vet
Among practicing Catholics, Obama received 42%

Astonishing! It would be interesting to know how the local priests voted.

4 posted on 11/09/2012 9:57:28 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: NKP_Vet

Translation. Hypocrites that don’t practice their faith voted for Obama, no matter what demonination. Romney got the ones that actually try to live their faith. But we have more hypocrites than real Christians so the communist carried the day.

Yep that is it!!!! You can’t beat Santa Claus!!!


5 posted on 11/09/2012 10:01:39 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: NKP_Vet
I would not want this sort of thing to be seen as a "Catholic" problem. As you say, this is pretty widespread among the denominations.

I would like to see religious leadership make a real effort to tell people which political issues are in line with their faith. There is right. There is wrong. The religious leaders are supposed to help people see the difference.

And if the IRS has a problem, it should be pushed to the supreme court. Black churches push socialism from the pulpit all the time. We can, and should, push from our pulpits.

6 posted on 11/09/2012 10:01:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: Heartland Mom

Secret Ballot....however, I bet God’s recording angels are busy taking notes!


7 posted on 11/09/2012 10:01:49 AM PST by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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Bill would say that almost 70% of the white practicing Catholics voted Romney.

Not true. Almost 40% of the white practicing Catholics did not vote. So they did not vote in the Congressional and state races, which is more important. Considering most do not live in a swing state.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 10:01:57 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: aimhigh
My independent, fundamental Baptist pastor urged us to use our spiritual eyes and minds and choose the best candidate for Christian values ... we were electing a president, a leader, not a pastor.

Privately, my church was voting for Romney in spite of the religious difference .... which is GREAT, but the man is good, and THAT counts for a LOT.

9 posted on 11/09/2012 10:04:06 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: NKP_Vet

“What this shows is that the more practicing a Catholic is, of any ethnic background, the less likely he is to support the more secular of the candidates. “


the problem with this is several fold....

1) there is no measure listed of the % of practicing latino Catholics who voted Romney/obozo...

2) there is no measure on the % of practicing latino Catholics vs non-practicing latino Catholics...

3) this is another area where the GOP has fallen short- getting into the areas where there are practicing latino Catholics and displaying how the liberal agenda is anti-Catholic/Christian....


10 posted on 11/09/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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there is a serious question whether non-practicing Catholics should be considered Catholic

LOL, don't count on this changing anytime soon. It's too much benefit to the Left to claim Catholics as their own. Psy-ops and all that.

11 posted on 11/09/2012 10:07:46 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

do you have a link for this?? i’d be interested to take a look....


12 posted on 11/09/2012 10:08:34 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: NKP_Vet

There is no bigger supporter of the welfare state and thus welfare state politicians and the Dem party than the Catholic bishops. They love this destructive system based on envy, jealousy, covetousness, bitterness and theft. They promote this all the time and then they say oh, no, don’t vote for pro-abortion candidates. Good luck with that. Choosing which sins are ok and which are not is kinda tricky business.
Most Christians would rewrite Jesus’s parable and take the golden talents from the man with 5 and give them to those who had fewer or none.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 10:09:08 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: TEXOKIE
Yes, a secret ballot, but specifically address the issue from the pulpit and put it in the bulletin: if you voted for Obama in the presidential election, that was a mortal sin. This was specified in the Catholic Voter’s Guide which you were encouraged to avail yourselves of. As such, you are in a serious state of sin and should not partake of Communion until you are reconciled with the Church.
14 posted on 11/09/2012 10:12:02 AM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: God luvs America

you live on the east coast.

Go to Daily Mass ... politely ask a few people if they found it hard to vote or did they just get too busy.

Sure, there is polling. Until you hear it yourself, you cannot put a face on it. And that is the daily communicants.

Nobody would dare ask the Sunday Catholics. Your pastor would be appalled if you suggested a show of hands. (”Everyone who was able to vote, raise your hand!”)


15 posted on 11/09/2012 10:17:22 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: NKP_Vet

Growing up we learned to create pictures of Jesus out of dried pasta as kids, as teens we thought John Paul II was pretty cool but learned next to nothing about doctrine outside of a few basics, as adults we read vague pamphlets about “voting our consciences” — I had hope that bishops FINALLY speaking up would be listened to but I should have known that is a foreign concept to my peers.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 10:19:25 AM PST by ShovelPenguin
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To: NKP_Vet

ItWere practicing Catholics suppose to vote for a man who promised NEVER to infringe on a womans right to choose? Or the Father of gay marriage? Or a man who as Governor tried to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, and was responsible for Catholic Charities to close down adoptions in Mass. because they refused to provide gay adoptions. We were given no choice on those issues.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 10:19:25 AM PST by brightright
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m seeing dozens of postings on this subject in FR.. What no one is pointing out is that MSM is killing stories on reporting about Obama’s war with the Catholics . I’ll bet that at most of those non practicing Catholics voting for Obama haven’t any idea of what is going on or about the law suits on contitutional ground that are being filed.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 10:20:20 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

i spoke to people leading up to the election at 5:30 mass on Saturday....just about all were voting for Romney...


19 posted on 11/09/2012 10:22:47 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: NKP_Vet

We have a 150 years of the same thing.

Catholics vote democrat, protestants vote republican.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 10:35:25 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was not the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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