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Via Email from a friend | 11/9/2012 | Roger

Posted on 11/09/2012 8:20:56 AM PST by DH

We have lost.....

The most productive people, the small business owners, the entrepreneurs and the honest wage earners of America are so demoralized right now I am not sure we will recover as a country. We have lost the most important election of our lifetime and did so after giving our best effort, spent the most money ever and working the hardest we have ever worked. The very people that America needs the most to generate a real recovery now have the least motivation to do so and worse, lack the confidence necessary to even justify the effort.

We opposed a foe that was so obviously incompetent, corrupt and inept in leadership we really expected a landslide victory and a redeeming mandate to return the nation to conservative values. Instead what we got was a harsh slap in the face by an America public telling us it is not like us and it does not any longer believe in what we believe in. As a country we are hopelessly divided by a malignant polarization approaching that similar to the time around the civil war. Our side will not march in the streets, never the less the rebellion, protests and resistance will be just as determined but more subtle. The American can do spirit, our optimism, our traditional dependence on our own ingenuity is now mere kindling on the advancing flame of an insidious yet steadily advancing socialism.

Those of us who create real jobs, invest our capital, our fortunes and take the risks to build America, feel betrayed. The fundamentals of honest effort and hard work rendering the rewards associated with capitalism seem now like a cruel joke. We are now a targeted enemy not to be governed but coerced into submission by a lazy, corrupt, vindictive, arrogant government that is out for revenge, redistribution and to add a final insult, one we find too morally bankrupt to lead. The usual safe guards for a democracy found in a vibrant independent press have lost any semblance of objectivity and instead have joined a side. What used to be principled Independent reporters have morphed into dishonest pundits spewing a disgusting relentless partisan bile that neither informs nor educates. They are shallowly manipulated by the political marketers to the point their words lack meaning. The "fourth branch" of government has become nothing more than an empty cathode ray irradiating a mind numbed audience like a repetitive Beaves n' Butthead rerun.

We have elected a President who not only feels we did not work for what we have but feels we do not deserve either. Had it gone the other way, Obama supporters would have torched America. Instead they will now legitimately consume it by gnawing at the soft underbelly of what was once her prosperity. Our Judeo-Christian culture now having as much meaning as a 3 minute Youtube video. It is however as the Bible had forewarned, ours is a world turning over where good is bad, and bad is good. God help us all. He is our last refuge.

Roger


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; obama; opinion; society; vanity
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To: Hugh the Scot

Because of you, and 3-5 million other “principled” people who either didn’t vote of voted for Gary Johnson, you got Obama.

Romney wasn’t my first choice either, but at least we would have a person who loved the USA and would have neutered ObamaCare and gotten the tax code in line. I doubt if President Romney would have bowed to the Saudi King, either.

Your “maverick” nature got you Hussain and Reid. Enjoy.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:06 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: DH
God help us all. He is our last refuge.

He should have been everyone's first refuge.

Psalm 46: 1-3
God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way,
though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea,
though its waters roar and foam,
though the mountains tremble at its swelling.

42 posted on 11/09/2012 9:47:34 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: IslamE

Nice theory.... the gulag and decline will take decades like in Europe. you will be dead long before and your chains will not wear well till your death.

Look a Detriot.... took decades to kill it...Europe is still goin... hell even Russia is still going... You are a dolt to think this is going away anytime soon via a war or the wrath of God. Haaa keep thinking that as you watch your freedoms and money go away. The political class won on Tues, Republican and Demoncrat. The political elites won.. hard working tax payers offically lost. No party gives a rip. I have more distain today for Republicans than demoncrats.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 9:54:59 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: wac3rd

No. Because of ROMNEY you got Obama.

Romney, and the GOP turned their backs on 3.5 million principled people.

Your liberal nature got you Hussain and Reid. Enjoy.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 10:16:36 AM PST by Hugh the Scot (Walter, I love you, but sooner or later you're going to have to face the fact that you're a moron.)
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To: Persevero

“Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.”

That may be true but fewer voted


45 posted on 11/09/2012 10:18:40 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: Persevero

“Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.”

That may be true but fewer voted. And why would 21% vote for Obama???????? Who are these people?????


46 posted on 11/09/2012 10:20:03 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: dirtymac

Some of them were my mother and my uncle. Old retired people who were convinced that Romney and the GOP were going to take away their Social Security benefits by the MSM.

We let the Democrats define the race, and our candidate did all he could to prevent any distinction between the two. That’s how you lose 21% of the Evangelicals.

Ignorance is preferable to error and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
—Thomas Jefferson


47 posted on 11/09/2012 10:34:11 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: Hugh the Scot

We can stend the next few years discussing how Mitt Romney did not meet the criteria. I did not like George Bush and certainly did not like McCain (loved Sarah Palin though weak on experience); but I voted for them. Your attitude is my way or not at all. Mitt won the primary. I did not like it but he won. No one else won. So the lelection is him, who we don’t like or Obama. Clear choice. Staying home doomed us all.

What you have shown is that the conservative wing of the Republican party cannot be trusted to support the party decisions. Why then would the Republicans do anything for conservatives.

The Democratic party consists of several diverse groups that have no central theme. Gays, Unions, monrities, trial lawyers, etc. They know that if they do not support the party even when it goes against there best interest in the short run, then they will be out in the long run. Where would the minorities be if they did not support the party on gay marriage and open immigration; both going against their core beliefs and best interests.

So yes I am casting aspersions on those conservative who did not vote. . . Temper tantrums do not work well for young children and in politics. It is going to be pretty hard to have a political party when everyone has to be placated or they will not participate.

The main idea in democracy is that everyone has a vote, a selection/decision made, and WE ALL ACCEPT IT.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 10:39:43 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: Sequoyah101

It’s actually being discussed. We have 30 governors and 30 state legislatures. There is no alternative and soon most states will be blue. Let’s have it all out in the open.

Jackson Hole? Boise? Oklahoma City? A lot of nice RED STATE LOCATIONS.

check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Barnett

and here’s the strategy [click on download]:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1284371

Considering our only option is capitulation, I say we convene a convention. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 10:47:45 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Hugh the Scot

Guess those Temple Garments didn’t work out. Ditto for the White Horse Prophecy.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by polkajello
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To: txnativegop

You are correct. Those details would be negotiated at the convention. We have lost the Republic—but we have one chance to bring it back. If we wait, there will be too many BLUE STATES for it to work.


51 posted on 11/09/2012 11:21:54 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: IslamE

Sadly enough, I believe that it will take a civil war to reinstate our Constitution and its values.

Term limits are a good way to keep “lifers” out of Congress but the “lifers” control Congress and will never, never, never let that happen.


52 posted on 11/09/2012 11:27:12 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: polkajello

Can’t help you, don’t know what you’re talking about.

Sorry.


53 posted on 11/09/2012 11:29:31 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: dirtymac

so you’re suggesting that Constitutional Conservatives should have no voice in their government.

I don’t claim to represent the conservative wing of the republican party. But I will gladly acknowledge that the liberal Rockefeller wing of the republican party does not represent me.

Here is your error: You describe what the democrats do, and hold that up as worthy of emulation. There is no temper tantrum involved. If the party does not make an effort to represent my values, they don’t get my vote.

so tell me again, why I should vote for liberal, big-government republicans in the future?

The downfall of our republic has been that “everyone has a vote”, but not everyone has skin in the game.


54 posted on 11/09/2012 11:38:39 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: DH

When pirates take your ship, you burn it rather than let it be captured.


55 posted on 11/09/2012 11:44:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Actually, I am starting to view this as a good thing. A Romney presidency wouldn’t have been our “salvation”

I'd be right with you on that were it not for the fact that I'm supposed to retire in 10 years. With obama another 4 years it looks like I might end up eating cat food some day. I was looking for that last 5 to 10 good years of earning for a final push after putting kids through college and sustaining health costs out the whazoo. Instead, laid off 3 times in 12 months, Nov 30 being my last day at my current place of employment.

56 posted on 11/09/2012 11:57:57 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

Everyone says we should go Galt but we would have to do it without a cloaking device and ultra-efficient motors. We could however, start an underground economy of our own like everyone else.


57 posted on 11/09/2012 12:05:40 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

In a dual to defend yourself, there is a gun and a feather to choose as weapons, you chose the feather, and are now dead.

Hope the afterlife is good for you.


58 posted on 11/09/2012 12:11:32 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Well said, Hugh.


59 posted on 11/09/2012 12:15:20 PM PST by ladyrustic
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To: dirtymac

I’m going to have another go at this, because I think your heart may be in the right place.

We probably *will* spend the next few years discussing how Mitt Romney did not meet the criteria. You named three Republican candidates that resulted from compromise with the leftists. I don’t blame you for not liking them, and I don’t suggest further compromise with the leftists as a solution to this problem. That, apparently is your side of the argument.

I personally cannot be trusted to support the decisions of people who would sell out my core values. So why would conservatives ever support the Republicans?

“Where would the minorities be if they did not support the party on gay marriage and open immigration”? They would be free. The groups you’ve described have formed a coalition on *one* commonality; the quest for power. That approach to life or politics does not work for Christian Conservatives who, contrary to the popular narrative, do not want to become the American Taliban; but who simply want to live their lives amid as much freedom as possible, and to avoid being host to innumerable government sponsored parasites.

Don’t worry, I didn’t skip voting. I just didn’t vote for Romney.

To your last sentence: “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.”
Thomas Sowell


60 posted on 11/09/2012 12:25:08 PM PST by Hugh the Scot
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