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To: TigerClaws

Realize that under our current system people in other states have more say on what goes on in your state than you and your fellow state residents. It makes no sense that the people of Massachusetts and California have a say over people in Louisiana, Texas or Indiana. Or vice versa. The notion that one city can or should rule such a vast, diverse continental expanse is nuts.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 7:57:59 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: all the best

>>>>Realize that under our current system people in other states have more say on what goes on in your state than you and your fellow state residents.

That’s a result of the 17th Amendment, which implemented the popular vote for senators. It allowed special-interest groups, organized across many different states, to affect the outcome of senatorial elections within any one state.

The MSM guffawed when Rick Perry openly stated that the 17th Amendment needs to be repealed because that is its main effect (and perhaps its main purpose, too).

Senators were originally “state ambassadors”, representing their state’s governor and state’s legislature, and were the most important way in which the states, as sovereign political units, could have a voice in the central federation of these units in Washington, DC.

Repealing the 17th Amendment would be one important step toward a healthy return to the original idea of “Federalism.”


24 posted on 11/09/2012 8:17:06 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: all the best
Realize that under our current system people in other states have more say on what goes on in your state than you and your fellow state residents

The result of the 17th amendment. Senators used to be appointed or selected by state legislatures and they represented the state or they were gone. Now they're elected by popular vote in urban areas and they couldn't care less about anything else.

In my opinion the 17th seems like a rather "extra constitutional" amendment and could be overriden at least temporarily by political force. There are at least a dozen states with large GOP majorities and super majorities. Imagine if those states simply refused to have elections for senators and selected them like before.

It would certainly be an interesting experiment if 30 or 40 GOP senators were selected the old way and showed up demanding to be seated.
26 posted on 11/09/2012 8:17:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: all the best
The notion that one city can or should rule such a vast, diverse continental expanse is nuts.

Nonsense.

Moscow managed it for 70 years. Beijing has already done it for 65 years and is still going strong.

The only question remaining as to "how" is how many eggs are our new overlords willing to break? My guess is, a lot!

68 posted on 11/09/2012 9:44:49 AM PST by Gritty (The can no longer can be kicked down the road. We're all out of road, there's only an abyss-Mk Steyn)
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