Posted on 11/09/2012 7:04:01 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
Yes - most certainly the Scorched Earth Romney policy in the Primaries did alienate many Conservatives and they were not able to overcome it. But there were other reasons ... that are somewhat associated ... In the Romney Campaign Republicans did not make much effort other than cursory at teaching the benefits of Liberty and Freedom because these ideals are Conservative Ideals. Establishment GOP/RNC Elites who run (and ruin) the Republican Party REFUSE to embrace seriously anything that is considered Conservative. The RINOs of the GOP/RNC elite want middle ground, liberal lite, embrace diversity - (even when the diverse do not embrace them) Such folly - this has been tried twice now - 2008 and now 2012 and has utterly FAILED. In 2010 when a big Tea Party effort pushed Conservative values such as smaller government - liberty and freedom - we won 63 seats in the U.S. House. But heaven forbid that the GOP/RNC liberal elites do that - what shame that would be.
Also - On November 6th. we had (as usual) in this nation 50 Million people who could have registered to vote and vote - BUT DID NOT... It seems the Romney Campaign could not convince even 10% of those 50 million to even vote and hopefully vote Republican... They were too busy kissing the butts of Hispanic and Black communities in the idiotic and vain hope that millions Blacks and Hispanics would go Republican ... such stupid thinking...
Let me give you some inside info that will probably make you sick. I was in the Super PAC that bought that stupid Bain film and started running against Mitt. I argued, bitched, cussed, and called the folks writing my checks crazy and out of touch for doing that attack.
I told them to just keep running against Obama, and we’ll peel off the soft (at the time) Santorum support, the Cain and Palin folks who have not landed, and the undecideds craving an attack on liberals. I begged, cajoled, reasoned, and told them that running Bain would bring down a hell storm of derision from Rush, Levin, Hannity, etc.
And it did. Newt got back on track in SC, and routed everyone. Went to Florida, and listened to his stupid consultants again. Before the Florida debates, out of SC, I thought we were looking at America’s Churchill: fat, frumpy, pompous, brilliant, but perfect for the times. It was over 10 minutes into the Monday Florida debate, and Mitt was nominee at that time in effect.
I so so so wish Newt had kept doing what he did in Iowa early and then in SC. He did not.
“I think the Romney Care Obama Care distinction could have been overcome.”
I intently tried to differentiate the two. Every attempt at an explanation by Romney or one of his supporters fell flat to me. The state vs federal is BS. It is big intrusive socialist government at any level regardless of whether the founding documents of the implementing entity allows it or not.
It is not enough to simply be an outsider. There is more to this business than that.”
Yes. Well said.
On the Ron Johnson point, has anyone, by chance, heard him speak in person? Holy smokes, that guy is very impressive. Seriously.
As is Cruz, Mike Lee, Rubio and Rand Paul.
Intelligent Tea Party Conservatism.....I HOPE (I do not yet believe....that is what we are trying to figure out) that that combination will pick up the Republican/Perot/Paul/Reagan Democrat vote which is a winning (indeed, utterly overwhelming) combination.
It is intrusive, and it is a bad approach, but if the state versus federal does not make any difference to you, then you have a huge blind spot on the wisdom of the Founders and the entire concept of states rights and the 10th Amendment.
That concept was indeed founded on the principle of multiple state “laboratories” where concepts could be tried in a confined area. That very process dictates that there will be some failures and some bad ideas in those laboratories. But remember my friend, that was known ahead of time, which is why they were forming a “more perfect union” and not trying to form a “perfect” union.
Think about it. HUGE difference between perfect and more perfect, and between state and federal.
Akin said the right thing the wrong way. He’s a solid prolife, pro traditional marriage conservative. That last point detracts from your overall case.
I so so so wish Newt had kept doing what he did in Iowa early and then in SC. He did not.”
In retrospect, politically speaking, the day after the SC primary was the best day of the year. When Newt smacked down those CNN idiots, that was true greatness.
Back to Reagan. In reading Craig Shirley’s books, it seems to me that Reagan’s campaign was always his. Yes, he used consultants. But they followed the big picture lead that he gave; they were on the same page as him. And it showed, and they (and we) won.
I got really disgusted with folks jumping to support Todd Akin simply because he was an outsider. Jeez folks - there are a lot of outsiders who are “effn” idiots, and Akin was one. There were two other dynamite candidates in that race, and Claire’s voters crossed over and picked the idiot they wanted to run against.
Now, I have noticed that Akins’ trolls have not raised a peep since it became obvious that he ran the absolute worst campaign in the entire country. I know the idiot who ran it too, and I’m not surprised. Yes, he was one of the geniuses who thought Newt’s Super PAC should run the Bain ads. He also thinks Joe Scarborough and Shep Smith are friends of Republicans.
yes, he’s that foolish. He sank Newt and then he sank Akin, which might have taken Mitt down too. Who knows how many walking vagina’s in Florida, Va, Ohio, were turned off by Akin’s comments gone viral.
It’s way past time for some tough rules requiring the northeast to eat the **** sandwich they’ve cooked up.
More or less. First stop: kick Iowa to the curb in regards to having the first caucus. Perhaps it made sense in 1956, but it has LONG been a negative for everyone. The state simply has too many cattle, be they four- or two-legged (both irrespective of party affiliation).
Mr. niteowl77
Newt had no base outside of GA and SC, home territory. If he had withdrawn after Missouri and Santorum’s sweep - Santorum could have taken down Mitt in Ohio (lost by a percent), and in Michigan (same).
That changes the whole tenure of the race.
Iowa voted for the best conservative option on the ballot last time around - Santorum.
The problem wasn’t Iowa - the problem was Florida.
Hindsight is 20/20. Akin was leading McCaskill before Romney backstabbed him.
Where were you when Akin was leading? Hmm?
Akin said the right thing the wrong way. He’s a solid prolife, pro traditional marriage conservative. That last point detracts from your overall case.”
There is no doubt that Akin is “one of us”. No doubt about it. The point is not whether he is a good, God-fearing, conservative man. He is.
But he has been around a long time. He should have known that he was being set up by the demonic media. He has ZERO responsibility to them, to answer their questions. He should have just stayed with his own talking points, ignoring the media, using them as a conduit for his own points. But he fell for it.
And...as a result, we gave away a US Senate seat. Worse, we gave it away to a very immoral, very corrupt liberal who could have been EASILY defeated.
Akin should be a Congressman and a Sunday school teacher. His point should be made in private, to those who are already pro life and trying to understand the issue thoroughly. But to cast that pearl before teh swine that is the media, he quite literally gave away a Senate seat. And the country really didn’t need that right now.
That’s the way I see it. (I contributed financially, by the way, to Akin after the fact with the hopes that he would pull it out....if he had, he would have been truly liberated, which would have been great...but he didn’t. Alas. So we have to try to learn from his very big mistake).
McCain, 2008 popular vote: 58,319,442
Romney, 2012 popular vote: 58,163,978
4 years of population growth and Romney didn’t draw what McCain did......
Because you think social issues are the only way to determine conservatism, a breath taking view of ignorance -and because you ignored how totally liberal Santorum ran his Pennsylvania campaigns - and because I am done with sweater vest geeks - I am done with you.
You don’t understand math, logic, or history - and how they all intersect. The Iowa caucus is a perverted ridiculous exercise involving a tiny group of people that will never ever win the state for the GOP. The state of SC, which is not that big, still cast more votes for Newt than the entire caucus population of Iowa cast for all candidates combined.
The problem was both Iowa and Florida, and the negative ads in both states. SC was the ONLY — ONLY state where the candidates all ran against Obama. Case closed. Bye.
Akin lost because Romney did the unforgiveable - backstabbed his own team.
You do not do that in the middle of the war. Sure, Akin could have phrased it better - but Romney dropping him hurt everyone else.
I know other conservatives and when they saw Romney taking money away from conservative candidates, we saw what we had feared, Romney backstabbing us in the middle of the election.
A true leader would have stood behind Akin and made it clear that he stood behind the prolife, pro traditional marriage folks - even when they screw up!
It’s easy to support someone when they do their job perfectly. The true test of character is what do you do when they screw up? Do you stand by them or do you hang them out to dry.
Guess what Romney chose?
Newt finished no better than third in every state that did not border GA.
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