Posted on 11/09/2012 6:03:20 AM PST by ICE-FLYER
Italk to people everyday on the net that say the same things. Nothing anyone can say can change their minds.
They use the media for talking points and Fox news does not count.
Their claims of racism now fall on deaf ears, I DON’T CARE ANYMORE! The race card has been overplayed and the deck is full of JOKERS. Obama isn’t BLACK, he’s RED! He played the blacks, asians and latinos for the dupes that they are. The rich may get poorer, but so will the middle class and the poor. When they don’t get their goodies anymore they can go ahead and complain, but they’ll be greeted by the government they so love with the business end of a gun. Good Luck! The “Truly Stupid” will never see it coming.
It is time to prep! It has begun.
Most Americans, white, black or otherwise, do not even know what ‘ideology’ even means. They have no clue as to how ‘government of the people’ is supposed to work. They haven’t the slightest inkling of constitutional limits on government power.
To them, government is the sugar daddy of all sugar daddies. Get free stuff from the wealthy through the government. They cannot conceive of anything esoteric such as liberty and personal responsibility, those are foreign concepts.
We have reached the tipping point, and it is now behind us. No candidate, no amount of campaign contributions, no slick advertisements, slogans or bumper stickers will ever change that mentality.
No, what must happen is the system must collapse. It must be allowed to proceed to the point where people realize that they have killed the golden goose, slaughtered the sacred cow and eaten the seed corn. The ones that caused the destruction will be the first to be destroyed by their own brethren. They will turn on themselves like rabid dogs, fighting over the last scraps of the carcass.
Then, and only then, will we be free of this chancre called ‘socialism’.....................
“Remember that it's those that will not take responsibility for their own children today that want you to take responsibility for something someone else’s forefathers did generations ago... “
I will attempt to recast this argument in other terms.. Most liberals see our country as too much something.. Too strong, and that we use that strength to influence others in our image, one that they don’t agree with.. We are too unfair to the lower classes, and that divide is holding back the permanent underclass..
We are a Nation of immigrants, but we seem to forget that we all came from somewhere else in our past, yet we have treated this new flow of immigration in the same way our forefather were unfairly treated, we’ve learned nothing.. Our immigration laws are unfair because they favor the wealthy, and too complex that lawyers are the only beneficiaries..
We are too religious, too puritanical in our beliefs.. We are too close-minded that we can’t see that not everyone is of the same mold that we seem to dictate..
Obama is of those fibers, and he has stitched together those elements into a common cloth that are so frustrated that they overlook their natural affinity to each other..
Since the Black underclass has been pacified, and codified in their beliefs, that they are the perfect model for a leadership role representative for these disparate coalitions, and they have this mandate that winning this battle is the beachhead, and has made anything to achieve their goal worthy of consideration, laws be damned..
That is where we are, and that is where we are going.. These people cheated and lied to get this man, Black as they could get, to be their leader.. He has a mandate to mold this country in their fragmented image, scares and scabs and all..
I hate most of what they believe in, and for that reason I don’t want this President, Black or otherwise, or any Liberal Pied Piper near the reigns of power..
False at the specific data level. False generalization.
passed over promotion just because they are BLACK;
False generalization. The reverse might be true, in the data margins.
considered to be criminals just because they are BLACK;
False. False generalization.
Thousands of white voters are not voting for him because he's BLACK!...
Perhaps true. But this number is much smaller than those who voted for him because of, or in larger part because of, his race.
But you don't seem to have a problem with any of that!
I have great problems with your false claims of fact and faulty analysis.
This country was built with the sweat and tears of BLACK slaves
True up to a point in size and time. It is false to say slaves built even .1 percent of the wealth and economy we see today. Blacks built perhaps ten percent of what we have today. American chattel slavery was evil, disgraceful, and every other bad thing you'd like me to say about it. But we've already debated this and we agree.... Furthermore, Jim Crow was also evil, disgraceful, and every other bad thing you'd like me to say about it. But this ended legally in the mid-1960's and in the vast majority of hearts and souls sometime during the 1970's. You can put your race card away. It is you who has become the racist.
and now a BLACK man has a chance to lead the same country where we weren't even considered as people;
"As a people? As humans equivalent in innate dignity and worth as whites?" False today. Not generally true today. Not generally true for signicant numbers of whites since the 1940s and perhaps earlier.
where we weren't even allowed to be educated,
Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.
drink from the same fountains,
Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.
eat in the same restaurants,
Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.
or use the same restrooms
Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.
or even VOTE.
Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.
So YES I am going to vote for him! But its not because he's BLACK, but because through his leadership several of America's most elusive enemies were brought to justice,
To some extent yes. But to no greater extent than was already on course to happen. In the mean time, he has been negligent as new Islamic ebemies have formed and strengthened.
our economy, health and environment has improved;
Absolutely False. False or marginal. False or marginal.
and our good reputation around the world has been restored.
Our reputation has improved in the eyes of those around the world detest the U.S. and U.S. power and principles of liberty and justice. Those who look to us as a model of liberty and as a vehicle for liberation are more afraid.
He is HOPE.
Glittering generality and Kool-Aid.
He is CHANGE.
You are seeing him as Messianic. You are deluded.
He is WISE.
False. He is a Progressive, a Marxist, and a slick wannabe tyrant.
He is a man of INTEGRITY
Perhaps at a personal level. At the political level he is a shrewd politician who uses all the instruments of non-violent power, both ethical and deceitful.
and INTELLIGENCE.
Not more so than the typical man of achievement.
He is a man of FAITH
He may have made some profession of faith to the true Christ. He claims to have. He is nevertheless a Progressive ideologist first and foremost. This is antithetical to Christianity. He is also sympathetic to Islam, which is in doctrine and in practice hostile to U.S. Constitutional liberty and to Christian faith.
and PERSEVERANCE.
Definitely true.
A man of MATURITY
At a personal level, probably.
and GOOD JUDGEMENT.
On matters of economics and state, false.
He is a faithful HUSBAND and FATHER.
True
And he allows me to understand when my grandchildren desire to be President when they grow up, its not a fairy tale but a short term goal.
This was achieved sometime in the 1970's.
They now see, understand and know that they can achieve, withstand, and do ANYTHING that they can dream for themselves.
... So NO I am not voting for him because he's BLACK.....I'm VOTING for him because I'M BLACK.....
Oh pulease. Get over it. Your race card is old, worn out, and hasn't been accepted here since about 1975. Your race-baiting makes you a racist. Go away. Get away from me Satan.
I searched for "Obama" and unfriended anyone who made a pro-Obama comment. I don't have room in my life for those who are conspiring to take my freedom.
Thousands, if not millions of white people did vote for him, again, specifically because he is black.
They've been cowed by decades of political correctness and accusations of inherent racism and manufactured guilt. Any questioning of Obama's presidential qualifications or performance is immediately met with charges of "RACISM!!!".
Voting for Obama is their penance.
Very much like the story of the "Emperor's New Clothes", they all agree with the crowd what a great president he is, what a good job he's doing, what a shame it is that he was saddled with so many problems.
None of them have the courage of an innocent observer to point out: "Hey, he doesn't have any clothes". Or in this case: "Hey, he's a pretty crappy president and this country is in a shambles".
All through the election, I kept hearing: "No president has ever won re-election with an unemployment rate above 7.2%", or "No president has every won re-election because of X, or Y, or Z".
I always immediately thought: "No president has ever been the beneficiary of this much manufactured national guilt and political correctness".
So, yes, he was elected because of racism, but you can't pin it all on black voters.
Who gives a damn about being called a racist? I couldn't care less.
Yes I post this (below) often. Because I really believe it. It's from Abraham Lincoln in 1854 I believe -- and it is not intended to suggest civil war. My preference has always been a modern American "Man on Horseback" to restore our Constitution and rid our Republic of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue. I honestly began to believe this in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
Though I am not thinking of the civil rights movement of the 1960s when I speak of campus Marxist-Alinsky radical, spoiled brats the extremists in the civil rights movement could be just as violent and anti-American.
I remember.
The 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever!. They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.
They hijacked the now defunct Democratic Party in the 1970s. The fault is ours. Abe will explain from "the other side."
You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.
Obama is a biological-ideological issue of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats.
So...much...stupidity...need....air......:::cough, cough:::
My response to that person is that I would print out a copy of those words and show them to him again in 2016.
My response? I think this fellow ought to be allowed to worship in private so I’ll close the door and leave him to his prayers to his god.
“Its over folks. They won.”
That battle is over. The war is not. 2014 starts now. 2016 starts now.
Look at black unemployment, illiteracy, incarceration, dropout rates, black-on-black crime, illegitemacy, etc etc.
If there is a measurable social pathology in this country blacks are at or near the top. and that has only worsened over the last four years.
What indications are there that this will improve in the next four? None. Blacks and the poor have suffered more under 0bama that anyone else and will continue to.
Denigrating and taxing the "rich" is not an economic plan.
Raising taxes on "carbon" will not promote business expansion.
Printing ever more monopoly money will not boost anyones income or savings.
Beleive me will soon look at 2012 as the end of the golden age and I don't care what color you are.
On questions like traffic stops, mortgage loans, etc, simply show the rate for Asians.
Evidently cops, bankers, schools, etc, are racist against blacks AND whites, because the numbers always favor Asians.
Never stop with just black and white, always remember to throw in the Asian statistics, they destroy the race theme.
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