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Americans face $3,500 fiscal cliff tax hit (Give the Rats what they wanted)
cnn money ^ | 10/1/2012 | By Jeanne Sahadi

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:29:29 AM PST by tobyhill

American households face an average tax increase of $3,500 if Congress doesn't act to avert the fiscal cliff, according to a new analysis from the Tax Policy Center.

Overall, 88% of households would end up with higher taxes.

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By contrast, households making up to $20,113 would see a $412 average increase. That may simply represent a smaller refund to those households, many of which have very little if any federal income tax liability to begin with.

Households in the middle -- with total incomes between $39,790 and $64,484 -- can expect a roughly $2,000 increase.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:29:31 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

YEP and this is BEFORE they take away your home mortgage interest deduction (And call it closing a loophole)


2 posted on 11/09/2012 4:38:29 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: tobyhill

Obama will demand tax increases on the wealthy. Boehner won’t acquiesce on that one issue. Gridlock again. we’re going over that cliff. and then they spend the next four years trying to pin the recession on each other. Ain’t democracy great?


3 posted on 11/09/2012 4:38:39 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: tobyhill

Every time an Obama voter bitches about their taxes going up, or gets laid off, or is shocked at gas prices, throw it back in their face that THEY VOTED FOR THIS. Never let them forget that their Kenyan Messiah caused this.

}:-)4


4 posted on 11/09/2012 4:40:30 AM PST by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: tobyhill

A tax increase means the federal fascist bureaucrats will get a big salary increase, and the fat welfare mommas will have more money for beer and pot. Maybe they can upgrade their BMW to a better model.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 4:43:49 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: tobyhill

That’s an AVERAGE. Most Obama voters won’t have to pay a dime extra.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 4:47:35 AM PST by glorgau
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To: tobyhill
Maybe we old whites should just go Galt.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 4:49:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

Give the democrats everything they say they want
Just bring it- Taxmageddon 2013, followed by obamacare
HMO’s for all run by TSA- like employees who will order that your parents receive a 30 day supply of pain pills instead of receive hip replacements, cardiac caths, or chemotherapy

Do our best to make sure the democrats cannot escape owning it. No bipartisanship, please. Only democrat control, to the end result of those policies.

Prepare prepare prepare for the results and take care of ourselves family and fellow conservatives as best we all can. Incomes and wealth will go down or vanish. It will be 2008 in extended version.

let the people understand this battle has to be fought, there will be casualties, and this does not constitute a GOP betrayal but a last best chance to open the eyes of the sheeple


8 posted on 11/09/2012 5:03:45 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Moose4

The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:

-The 10% bracket rises to a new and expanded 15%

-The 25% bracket rises to 28%

-The 28% bracket rises to 31%

-The 33% bracket rises to 36%

-The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

http://atr.org/days-taxmageddon-a7203#ixzz277YSfPmP

By allowing the 2003 Bush tax cuts to retire, taxes will be increasing the bottom rate from 10% to 15% and the 20% bracket to 25%.
Raising the 10% bracket to 15% represents what percentage of increase? (Hint: The correct answer is NOT 5%)

To those moving from the 10% bracket to 15%, their taxes will be increased by 50%!!

Raising the 20% bracket to 25% represents what percentage of increase? (Hint: The correct answer, again, is NOT 5%)it’s s a full-blown 25% increase in taxes

Finally, raising the 35% bracket to 39% represents what percentage of increase: (Hint: The correct answer is NOT 4%)that’s roughly an 11% increase in taxes.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 5:14:25 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: silverleaf
That's got to be it. Republicans have to stay COMPLETELY out of it. No matter what compromise is reached, Republicans will be blamed. We have seen this over and over. The ONLY way is call their bluff and let them own it! For all the rhetoric, Obama has NEVER put his name to an actual proposal. MAKE him do it- and the results will be all his.
10 posted on 11/09/2012 5:16:18 AM PST by mgpilot
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To: silverleaf

I’m willing to bet the 0 administration will keep redefining “wealthy “ until all of the middle class are considered “wealthy”. I wonder just how much 0 made the last 4 years and why he can afford a $40M home in Hawaii? Hmmm


11 posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:53 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

He wont “own” a $40 million dollar house in Hawaii
Like everything else in his entitled life someone else bought it and will give it to him

He will live in that mansion via a lifetime low cost “lease” arrangement probably run through some sham trust, and all a tax deduction for everyone involved

In this case the buyer is obama handmaiden Penny Pritzker, heiress of Hyatt
Remind me why I would want to stay in a Hyatt hotel ever again


12 posted on 11/09/2012 5:36:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: tobyhill

At this point, the lame duck US house Republicans need to show some spine.

If they capitulate to Harry Reid one last time, giving him both another continuing resolution and agreeing to raise the debt limit, it will be two more years of continuing resolutions and raising the debt limit. There will be several more quantitative easings.

Right now the United States faces a bad depression. If the Republicans play along, the result in two years will be worse than three Great Depressions rolled into one.

By acting now, and refusing to play along “just one more time”, the results will be harsh. But two years is a long time, or can be a long time, and though the Republicans will be viciously attacked at first, the public will finally be forced to see that the emperor has no clothes.

They will see that he is *not* a dictator, that he *cannot* endlessly produce largess from future generations, and that all his schemes and villainies and cheats are just that, gimmicks that have made a bad situation awful.

He and his kind crave revolution, so let them taste the people’s revolution utterly crushing the Democrats for 50 or 100 years.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 5:38:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Travis McGee

Working on it. Need to stock up on more food though.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 5:39:56 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: jsanders2001
I don't care what your tax rates turn out to be, everyone in every tax rate who has any income will pay the same for a gallon of gas, for utility bills, for food, for rocketing property taxes, for mandatory obamacare premiums..."tax increases" or income losses - it's a wash

Now add federal tax increases

I know that as one of “the rich” targeted to be be dragged down, my ability to save anything in the future goes way down, I can only hope we don't have to eat and heat from what we have managed to save so far

so there goes investing or discretionary spending

Not that our economy and jobs depends on those things (sarc)

15 posted on 11/09/2012 5:44:20 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: tobyhill
Let 'er rip.

Give the rubes exactly what they voted for.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Look...in a tug a war...sometimes just let go of the rope..let them have it..let it collapse..
17 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:38 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Look...in a tug a war...sometimes just let go of the rope..let them have it..let it collapse..
18 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:38 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Look...in a tug a war...sometimes just let go of the rope..let them have it..let it collapse..
19 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:44 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tobyhill

Less money + higher fuel cost = cold Yankee

Let the northeast that elected this clown think about it over the winter.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 5:48:06 AM PST by IMR 4350
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