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(Vanity) How we lost the election
self | November 9th, 2012 | God-fear-republican

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:08:22 AM PST by God-fear-republican

There are three main factors how we lost election:

1.Voter frauds which were committed everywhere in inner cities such as Cleveland, Miami, Las Vegas, Philly, etc.

2.Only about 45% Republican base turnout, especially religious Evangelicals, they could not bring themselves to vote for a Mormon. And 50% Catholic voted for Obama, and Lord God has mercy on their souls (I am a Catholic myself.)

3.But the main reason is the predestined will of God: We deserve to have Obama for the world has become fertile ground for the Evil One.

Our Blessed Lord gave us the name of the long-awaited anti-Christ in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan like lightning fallen from heaven." Lightning in Hebrew is Barak and heaven or high places in Hebrew is Bamah. And he will reign for the next 3.5 years. The Scripture counts his reign in days (somewhere in the Book of Daniel), not only years. You shall see a different Obama this time. He will be more reserved, determined, ruthless, eloquent as he might talk without teleprompter. His enemies shall be destroyed as he was given the absolute power by his father. I truly believe we are dealing with the demonic principality who shall bring wars, poverty, suffering and death.

How can we combat against Obama and his cohorts? By repentance, prayers, and strong faith. Remember he can destroy your body but not your soul. Remember his reign will last 3.5 years until 2016. Be ready.


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 3:08:32 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

What’s this “we deserve” crap? I didn’t bring Obama into power, why is God punishing everyone?


2 posted on 11/09/2012 3:13:28 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: God-fear-republican

White Catholics voted overwhelmingly forRomney, it was hispanics that didn’t


3 posted on 11/09/2012 3:14:09 AM PST by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: God-fear-republican

3.5 years? Huh?


4 posted on 11/09/2012 3:15:13 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: God-fear-republican
Only about 45% Republican base turnout

I haven't seen this, do you have a citation?

5 posted on 11/09/2012 3:15:20 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: God-fear-republican

Where is the evidnce that evangelicals didn’t turn out? I’ve seen statistics that they turned out in numbers similar to 2004.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 3:16:26 AM PST by almcbean
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To: God-fear-republican
I will say it once again, we lost because Obama promised more freebies to the ghetto slugs. There is no other reason, period! Had Romney offered everyone a free house then Obama would have just topped it off with a free house and free car.
7 posted on 11/09/2012 3:17:04 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: God-fear-republican
And I thought he lost because "the Mayans were right!"


8 posted on 11/09/2012 3:17:56 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: Utmost Certainty

The whole world has become a cesspool including the ecclesiastical hierarchy. Be right with God as there is not much time left, World War III will be ushered in.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 3:18:22 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

My mom cried. She certainly doesn’t deserve this crap.

I think we lost because of many different reasons, but the main reason is we didn’t stick with true conservative principles in an unashamed, clear, and optimistic way. We should never waver or pander. Conservative, small government, constitutional principles never stop working.

These are evil times, for sure.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 3:21:12 AM PST by grimalkin (Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. Friedman)
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To: God-fear-republican
especially religious Evangelicals

Load O Crap.

My little township (primarily Baptist and Methodist) had some of the highest turnout in the state at 70% and went overwhelmingly for Romney.

Like it or not, a lot of people didn't vote for Romney because he's a liberal.
11 posted on 11/09/2012 3:21:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gusopol3

Taking Ohio as the typical barometer, I calculated the % Republican turnout by each county in Ohio and the percentage range from 36-50% or 45% on average.

Republican base sat home on election day, coupling with frauds, Obama won!


12 posted on 11/09/2012 3:22:13 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: JustTheTruth

“A time (1 year), times (2 years)and half a time (.5 years).” It is Daniel’s prophecy of the 70 weeks, the end times. All but dispensational believers will scoff, that’s to be expected. Even among those believers there will be dispute about the interpretations (I strongly disagree with applying this to Obama). Nonetheless, the fact is, had not Harry Truman been a Baptist brought up in this tradition, it’s unlikely that Israel would have come into being in 1948, at least by the human agencies which brought it about.The cornerstone of the belief (other than the sovereignty of God) is the covenant God made with Abraham and his seed: “He who blesses you I will bless, and he who curses you I will curse.”


13 posted on 11/09/2012 3:26:10 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: God-fear-republican
Could it be as simple as there are at least 20 million illegals in this country and I expect a pretty big chunk of them voted for the commie?

Heck, rats don't fight voter ID tooth and nail because of some high minded idea, all they have to do is to get a couple of million of illegals to the polls along with your usual suspects and you've got it won.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 3:26:35 AM PST by Proud_texan (You didn't build that, Dear Leader did)
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To: grimalkin

You don’t get. We are dealing with a spiritual battle, not political. Obama is supposed to win. Have peace, don’t fall into despair,work hard for God’s kingdom, beg Him for mercy, so the chastisements can be lessened. Obama is one of the Divine chastisements. Don’t try to fight him with your own power but with God’s.
God Bless,


15 posted on 11/09/2012 3:26:35 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

All the oldsters who voted for obamination will see the death panels and be told to “take a pill”.

Absolutely no health care after 70 for anyone.

Except the ruling class who have exempted themselves...


16 posted on 11/09/2012 3:28:18 AM PST by Huebolt (United Socialist States of Amerika. Thank you I.N.S. (Immigration - National Suicide))
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To: God-fear-republican

Just BELIEVE in the most Blessed Holy Trinity!


17 posted on 11/09/2012 3:28:41 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: God-fear-republican

Please see post number 17. Thank-you.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 3:31:25 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: God-fear-republican

Those who see & hear with “spiritual” eyes & ears get it.
We know how it ends. Look up!


19 posted on 11/09/2012 3:37:01 AM PST by FES0844
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To: JustTheTruth

1260 days or 3.45 years (Rev 11:3; 12:6)

1290 days or 3.5 years (Daniel 12:11)

1335 days or 3.66 years (Daniel 12:12)


20 posted on 11/09/2012 3:39:06 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican
"The whole world has become a cesspool"

I agree. Right has been made to be wrong. Wrong is right.
Scruffy people are idolized. Clean cut people are frowned upon. This didn't happen overnight.

Our only hope is a strong belief in GOD. This may be the start of the end of time. . . .

21 posted on 11/09/2012 3:39:49 AM PST by DeaconRed (Our Founding Fathers who sacrificed everything would not be happy with US if they returned.)
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To: God-fear-republican
especially religious Evangelicals
Stop pawning this BS on us. We showed up as we are used to voting for non Christians (just in case you did not know Evangelicals consider every one who says that they are Christian and says that they are not Born Again to be nominal Christians that means we consider them NON CHRISTIANS so voting for a mormon is no different than voting for a roman catholic - we vote for those who are most likely to stand for Biblical principals and that includes taking the right stand on baby killing , marriage , and Israel

You guys think it is funny to pin the blame and attack us when we are gone you sure are going to miss us because without us YOU HAVE A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL to EVER HAVE A NON COMMUNIST EVER ELECTED TO ANY OFFICE IN THIS COUNTRY AGAIN.
Oh and I can tell you for a fact that we will not be here much longer because homeland security has already target us for elimination because they know if they get rid of us you and your like will fold 123
22 posted on 11/09/2012 3:41:15 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: God-fear-republican
If Item #2 is correct, then you can throw every other reason right out the window.

I mean -- come on, folks. Having 45% turnout in your own freaking party in a major presidential election is like having 55% of the employees at a Ford pickup truck plant showing up driving Chevy Volts.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 3:42:03 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Lera

I think he’s on your side ?


24 posted on 11/09/2012 3:46:28 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: God-fear-republican

If Evangelicals didn’t turn out for Romney because he is Mormon then they probably are as bigoted as the left claims. I hope that is not the case. And the Catholics don’t understand their faith very well. Even if they go along with misguided Catholic leaders who mistakenly interpret the message of charity as one of coerced wealth distribution via government, they ought to know that a higher moral obligation of not only protecting life (both at conception and end of life) but being open to God’s will (don’t use artificial birth control) should have take precedent and not only made it impossible to support Obama but a duty to actively oppose him and his policies. Romney was the only clear path to ending Obamacare, which now will be fully implemented along with more universal access to birth control, abortion coverage, and death panels. Shame and damnation be upon them.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 3:48:27 AM PST by JTHomes (28th: Congress shall make no law respecting economics , or prohibiting the free exercise of markets)
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To: Biggirl

Love the Lord with all your heart and all your will, you shall be saved along with your household. Have faith, don’t fall into despair as my wife did. Have hope and trust in the Lord. I have been studying prophecies since 1997, so I could tell the general trends of the world events. When you see Iran consolidating Muslim world under her power, the world war is at the door step. God will grant us His final Act of Mercy worldwide before the world is mostly destroyed by wars. Time is running short. During Obama’s second term, all things will be accomplished and the remnants of the Lord , who remain faithful until the end, will enter in the period of the most glorious peace. I truly believe what I have said because the world events have been unfolded in my eyes confirming the ancient prophecies I had studied since 1997.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 3:48:46 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

We have definitely turned away from God, one only need look at the responses you wrote to see that even among those who generally profess to being believers choose to turn their heads from a theological explanation of the state of the nation and cause of the election results.

I agree with you that evil (satan) has gained power...he is always there to tempt us in a myriad of ways that one can see is manifested in our society.

For example, how many really think so called gay rights are of importance to the democrat party...or, as I believe it is a mechanism in which to attack Christianity. Same with contraceptive “rights”...this also has much more strategic value to the liberals as a weapon against religious organizations and their ability to show compassion to people which means in real terms their ability to bring God to the doorstep of those in need. We will continue to see these kinds of tactics, indeed we will see more as evil becomes ever more entrenched and confident.

The problem for evil is it is arrogant and will eventually expose itself to even non-believers...just like the Nazi’s and Communists did.

Unfortunately for us, we are entering into a very dark period for civilization and I suspect we will witness some horrific things on a scale larger than World War ll.

I do not know if these are the end times...no one does and the Bible makes it clear that there is no clues to when Jesus will return. If one thinks about it though...Jesus never really left, he is with us every moment of every day if we open our heart.

In the meantime, we have choices to make...we do have free will granted to us by God. We can live with anger and hatred in our hearts...it is easy to want revenge...something Obama encouraged to his followers. Or, we can listen to God and have love in our hearts. If we live with anger and hatred we choose to look away from God...hence we live without joy. Only by putting love and compassion in our hearts do we allow God to work within us to bring joy and fullfilment to our lives.

We will not win by joining evil...we will only win by joining God...it really is that simple. These times provide us with wonderful opportunity to honor God when we will be persecuted for doing so...to show love when we will be ridiculed...and to bring others to God’s presence by standing tall for God and the principles by which he teaches us to love one another. President Bush understood this epic battle and I honor his legacy of showing compassion for all and fighting the good fight with love in his heart and malice towards no human...just against the evil which he is a strong Christian warrior for God.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 3:49:49 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: God-fear-republican

Don’t get your panties in a wad.

The reason Romney lost is because he was chosen and groomed as the candidate (along with boy wonder) by the elite in the GOP..........PERIOD!

I’ve harped and preached the minute he was chosen that we had lost the election (along with most of the freedoms we had left) before it even began.

Herman Cain is right....we need a Third party.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 3:53:50 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: God-fear-republican

You are absolutely correct, IMO; this is a judgment on the U.S. and a scourge.

No question.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 3:54:36 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: JTHomes

Faith is bigger than the misguided clergy or 50% “leftist”, pro-abortion, cafeteria American Catholics. Faith is between my soul and God, my love for Him. Please true Christians, do not lose your faith because of what is going on around you. DO NOT LOSE HOPE, REJOICE IN THE LORD ALWAYS. Time will get really tough, almost beyond human strength sometimes, but no matter what, don’t stop praying and beg God for mercy, for Catholics,don’t forget the Mass, Rosary, and Chaplet of Divine Mercy. Official Schism will take place in the Roman Catholic Church. When you Holy Father Pope Benedict, run away from Rome, you know this will happen. Watch the Words of Consecration as they might be changed to invalid the Holy Mass. I believe the true Church will go underground. Keep your eyes open and this is just what I understand and get out from the ancient prophecies but these events relating to our Catholic Church appear to be confirmed. Just watch and see.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 3:58:00 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: Alberta's Child
Having 45% turnout in your own freaking party

That McCain got more GOP votes than Romney was shocking to me. Then it hit me, GOP turned out in 2008 because of Sarah Palin, not John McCain. I think Newt or Bachmann would have brought more turn out as the front runner. I think the Ryan pick was good, but they didn't use him enough. Republicans will take the wrong message from this, and again go more moderate. But that will only guarantee less conservative turnout and they'll never compete with the Dems on the redistribution game. I don't think the GOP will recover from their disaster when Bush and GOP controlled everything and did not scrap the tax code and IRS, kill the Departments of Education, Agriculture, EPA, and privatize SS like they were put there to do. Republicans don't trust their candidates anymore and won't support marginally conservative candidates.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 3:59:05 AM PST by JTHomes (28th: Congress shall make no law respecting economics , or prohibiting the free exercise of markets)
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To: DH
"Herman Cain is right....we need a Third party"

Yes; that's right.

But we MOSTLY need a way to have votes counted by someone we can trust, AND, some way to even know where/how/when the votes were counted.

Doesn't this Election have a strangeness to it, in that the Election was being called with 1% of the vote counted, and we have NO IDEA how the process now works for counting?

32 posted on 11/09/2012 3:59:05 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: DH

All Presidents have been chosen by the elites. Election is just for show. You got it right. Just like the Old Israelites, we turned away form God, we were doomed; when we worship the Lord our God, we are blessed. Period


33 posted on 11/09/2012 4:01:20 AM PST by God-fear-republican
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To: grimalkin
We lost because because Some conservatives love conservatism more than America and some Christians thought a Muslim was better than a Mormon and both groups didn’t vote.

We will never have another conservative or rino in office again.

Socialists and commies, Our country will be one California.

I now know our hard line stand on Mexican immigrants has lost our country forever.

No compromise no freedom.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 4:07:35 AM PST by factmart
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To: God-fear-republican

The only thing you can do is punish them economically...don’t hire anyone who voted for Obama; don’t frequent commercial sites whose owners voted for Obama, don’t hire anyone to do work around your home who voted for Obama.

How would you know who voted for Obama? Just ask them. If they say: they won’t tell you, or they didn’t vote, or they voted for the Bastard in Chief, then tell them you only hire people who voted for Romney.

Don’t have the balls to do this? Then don’t complains about who your president is for the next four years.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 4:07:56 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: God-fear-republican

0bama was “re-elected” by 3 things
Corruption (cheating)
Racism & stupidity
Spite & stiff-necked self-righteousness

God didn’t “do” this to us. We did it. He isn’t “punishing” us, but He May Be Motivating us. My grandmother had a saying- Hard heads have to feel. He will only pull our sorry behinds out of the fire for so long.

He Gave us a brain, a mouth, feet, each other, & the greatest country that has ever been. The Lord, Jesus Christ, Gave us the ideal mechanism- shunning & turning away.
By our inaction- for decades, now, we have squandered it.

We will show up, in droves, for a chicken sandwich, over gay marriage (There is SO much more wrong with our *rulers* than gays & abortion), but we won’t take a day to silently line the streets in protest? Or petition, in person, our governors & insist that they act?

Thank God that at least the businessmen (& women) of this country are putting their money where their mouth is.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:51 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: hecht
I think Mitt should have gone for Rubio for VP.
He is charismatic, attractive, smart and would have appealed to hispanics.
37 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:54 AM PST by patriot08
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To: DH

Boy wonder, you are a asshole!


38 posted on 11/09/2012 4:13:15 AM PST by factmart
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To: JTHomes
It's also worth noting that Obama was heavily shielded from a core GOP message because it was, well (believe it or not), verifiably false. The Republican Party has vilified Obama for his support of massive tax hikes, and Obama himself has campaigned endlessly agains "the Bush tax cuts," but here we are in November 2012 -- four years into Obama's first term and seven years after Obama began railing against those tax cuts as a U.S. senator from Illinois -- and those Bush tax rates are still in place.

In some respects, the whole political landscape has turned upside down. We're talking a lot on FR about how Romney didn't get a lot of support compared to 2008, but the truth is Obama's support has tailed off even more dramatically. And I suspect a lot of that is because Democrats are scratching their heads and wondering who this flaky whack-job is in the White House.

39 posted on 11/09/2012 4:13:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: patriot08
I think Mitt should have gone for Rubio for VP. He is charismatic, attractive, smart and would have appealed to hispanics.

Rubio is not eligible, not being natural born. Conservatives follow the Constitution, not the winds of popularity.

We have one ineligible fraud as President, let's not compound the problem with another.

40 posted on 11/09/2012 4:16:56 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: traditional1

I agree - definitely cheating and computer tampering....


41 posted on 11/09/2012 4:17:52 AM PST by dgkb
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To: traditional1

I agree - definitely cheating and computer tampering....


42 posted on 11/09/2012 4:18:04 AM PST by dgkb
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To: traditional1

I agree - definitely cheating and computer tampering....


43 posted on 11/09/2012 4:18:13 AM PST by dgkb
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To: God-fear-republican

When 50.1% of the population are receiving public money in the form of benefits or payroll, it is over. They will vote themselves a raise every election.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 4:19:19 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: God-fear-republican
You're misinformed and defeatist.

Other exit polls have shown that conservative Christians voted for Romney more than they did for McCain; it was the "sensible moderates" who abandoned him in droves.

And Romney's vaunted ORCA get-out-the-vote was a disaster, probably foisted by moles within the party or created solely by managers as opposed to IT types.

Read about that here.

Compare it to Obama's get-out-the-vote here; and apparently he had techies from Google and Facebook helping to make the stuff run right.

Finally there was outright voter fraud in Philly and Cleveland, (and likely Floriduh, though I haven't substantiated that to my satisfaction, despite the reports of Miami-Dade polls being open until 1:00 AM...)

What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote

Vote was astronomical for Obama in some Philadelphia wards

Get a grip and put down the Hal Lindsey cult material.

Christians are called to engage the society PROACTIVELY (see Wilberforce in England and ending slavery there...)

Cheers!

45 posted on 11/09/2012 4:27:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: God-fear-republican

I reckon by 2016 he’ll have been president for about 8 years.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 4:28:59 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: God-fear-republican
“3.But the main reason is the predestined will of God:”

I've been so disgusted that I have not been following things but I think you're the first one to point this out. I agree and I came to this realization too, Wednesday night. We can't possibly understand GOD’s plan but we must have faith and trust that it will work.

47 posted on 11/09/2012 4:31:09 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Matthew 5:45 - "That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.<"p>I could also add one or two verses from Revelations and Isaiah regarding the chaos that is to come prior to the Second Coming. We cannot see all that God sees, because He knew the end from the beginning. I would also add that sometimes, He allows evil men to perform their perverse acts so that they can be justly judged.

Keep your family close.

48 posted on 11/09/2012 4:33:57 AM PST by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: DownInFlames

“When 50.1% of the population are receiving public money in the form of benefits or payroll, it is over. They will vote themselves a raise every election.”

The masses have learned that from Congress, who votes to increase their own pay.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 4:37:10 AM PST by taterjay
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To: exit82

Rubio’s parents became citizens and he was born in Miami.
I thought this made him elgible.
Anyway, he would have made a good VP candidate if elgible.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 4:48:17 AM PST by patriot08
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