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Yes, Another Vanity Suggesting Fraud ie vote destruction.
Vanity | 11-8-2012 | Vanity

Posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:02 PM PST by Bigjimslade

Sorry but I think we have just witnessed a whole new level of voter fraud. Yes, the dems undoubtedly manufactured votes but did they also destroy valid ballots ? Feel free to pick my ideas apart, I hope you do so I can get this crap off my mind. Just please do it using the numbers not just your impressions.

I don't know who else noticed this but when the early/absentee votes for OH showed up and the 1% precints was still showing Dick Morris tweeted not to worry as this was the early vote. However, I was very worried because of the numbers. There was an 18.5% gap with a near 60/40 split which was not what we had heard at all.

Rasmussen and others were telling us this was 40% of the vote and I knew we couldn't make that up. When I compared it to 2008 it was actually about 20% of that vote which meant we had a better chance of making it up but once again 20% didn't make sense from what we knew. Where did the other votes go and why were these votes so skewed ? Were early votes from R counties destroyed ?

Then when I heard that Romney got less votes than McCain in OH and PA it really made me think that there might have been an effort to destroy the early votes from Republican areas. The reported party breakdown of early votes in OH on election day according to Bloomberg's Dem source: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-06/the-early-election-results-captured-by-democratic-microtargeters was 50D 36R 14I. The only way this turns into a near 59:40 breakdown is if the Indies went about 70:30 to Obama or many R’s voted for O which the polls don’t seem to bear out.

The only other explanation I can think of is that only the early voting was shown and absentees were much more favorable for us but not listed ? The actual # reported on Bloomberg was 1,442,536 which was about 27% or so and when I looked it up on a site that gave the actual counts down to the voter's names it should have actually been in the mid 30s percentage wise. Perhaps you can find the breakdown of absentee vs early votes somewhere ?

In surrounding states like IN, KY, WV Romney did much better than McCain by percentage and generated more votes overall. He also did better in other battlegrounds.

Either the negative/mostly untrue ads suppressed our voters only in OH and PA or someone suppressed their actual votes in a big way. I just can’t believe Romney/Ryan with 4 yrs of Obama turned out fewer R voters than McCain in these states. Other states in the eye of the storm or out West that we knew wouldn't count, maybe there but not OH and PA. All the indicators were going our way all day, either we were being lied to or something happened to these votes.

BTW, I know my absentee ballot didn't make it as I went to the polls and checked. Sent it in 14 days earlier.


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1 posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:07 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Bigjimslade

Why did you post this vanity in News?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: Bigjimslade

Here is my critique of your theory. There was certainly fraud, but obama won by ~3 million votes. The only race that was close enough to likely be affected by fraud was Florida, and it didn’t matter without Virginia/Ohio/Colorado/Wisconsin. So this election was not stolen. Focus on getting Voter ID laws passed, but more importantly, a better candidate for next time.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 9:26:30 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Bigjimslade
Since Wednesday morning I've been haunted by the UN observer's amazement that we conducted elections based on trust instead of positive anti fraud measures.

He was right to be doubtful.

4 posted on 11/08/2012 9:28:45 PM PST by norton
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To: Bigjimslade
My son voted absentee in PA, and I believe his vote was destroyed. I personally sent in his application after having him sign it. He told me the ballot arrived and that he sent it in a week before it was due (before Hurricane Sandy).

When I checked at our polling place, the list where his ballot should have been included did not show his name. This list is generated at the county elections office, and normally shows who received absentee ballots and whether they were returned completed. Not only was his ballot not shown as having come back completed, it was not even on the list. It simply ceased to exist. Poof, gone.

When I asked the elections judge, she told me she had seen a number of absentee irregularities and was very concerned. She called the county officials who gave a BS story about how they might not have scanned it yet. That still doesn't explain the lack of an entry on the absentee list. I spoke with a member of our committee later and he reminded me that we'd lost a number of county level seats to the D's in the past county election and that the elections office is now staffed by D's. He wasn't surprised by it.

As to our absentees, when I heard the ballots counted, the majority of the absentees voted straight R ticket, and there were more than I've seen in past elections.

Our polling place also featured a D lawyer the entire day as poll watcher, and voting machines that had to be re-booted about 6 times during the day because of malfunctions. This was all in a collar county of Philadelphia in a normally quiet, albeit heavily D area. Discouraging.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 9:33:18 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: MrShoop; upchuck; Bigjimslade

Mr Shoop, you seem to be saying that it doesn’t matter. In the outcome of this election, I agree. In the overall sense, it definitely matters. Somebody defrauded the electorate this time, they will defraud the electorate next time. And next time it just might matter.

Mr upchuck, Some vanities are news-worthy.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 9:37:26 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Bigjimslade

What wss the original title? Why are the mods changing titles?


7 posted on 11/08/2012 9:39:39 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: MrShoop
Every fraudulent vote is an attempt to steal an election.

The question you ask is whether it's a conspiracy, that is, knowing that one individual's fraudulent vote would never be enough to steal an election, is there a knowledge that everyone else's fraudulent vote will add up to collectively steal the election?

Do you think that one side, but not the other, is actively seeking to collectively steal the election?

It doesn't take 3 million fraudulent votes to steal an election. It only takes a few thousand here and there, in the right districts, in the right swing states, to tilt the electoral votes of a few key states in one direction.

-PJ

8 posted on 11/08/2012 9:44:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

We need to start voter ID laws in every State now and not wait until before election. Wish we could do away with early voting too. I read some people went to vote and someone had already voted in their name.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 9:48:11 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: RobinOfKingston

I agree it is a problem. I think pushing Voter ID laws will be one of the most effective measures to keep it in check. But I also think there is too much complaining about it in regards to this election, with sadly and embarrassingly wasn’t close.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 10:01:57 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Bigjimslade
Romney votes HAD to have been purged (ballots & electronically)

FORGED Selective Service card. STOLEN birth certificate (Virginia Sunahara). STOLEN Social Security number (CT). FORGED & STOLEN election. Why would we expect a free and fair election from a fraudulent president? We all know how he got to 2008. Just a replay for 2012. We shouldn't be shocked. We should be flooding Congress with calls: (202) 224-3121.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 10:06:54 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: MrShoop

How about 500,000 bottles of purple ink? LOL


12 posted on 11/08/2012 10:10:18 PM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Democrats are the only party in a position to commit fraud en masse because they are in complete control of the corrupt urban areas. And the people that are relied on to execute elections are mostly public employees, union members, and democrats. I don't think there is a conspiracy, just lots of local corruption.

In 2004 Bush won Virginia 53% to 45%. We just need better candidates, and bigger margins more than anything else.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 10:15:35 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Rusty0604

Somebody better be working on this NOW, well-ahead of 2016 but we can’t be sure there’ll be any more elections.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 10:20:23 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: MrShoop

It all boils down to absence of ethics, dignity, honor and RESPECT FOR OUR ELECTION PROCESS. None of this is taught in the schools anymore. Votes and voting has been ‘cheapened’ by unethical liberals. You omitted plain-clothed ACORN, Black Panthers and those ‘mysterious’ United Nations poll monitors who came bearing gifts (ballots ‘pre-filled in Europe’ for Obama)


15 posted on 11/08/2012 10:28:02 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Bigjimslade

FIRST,
Elect Repub county officials......never, ever vote for a Dem. A Repub Supv. of Elections can prevent all kinds of monkey business.
Second, call the Supv’s office and ask the absentee procedures. If you still aren’t satisfied, go to the office. Use the word “fraud” at some point in conversation.
Ask around and find others who requested absentees.

Third, If you haven’t got answers, call your State’s Attorney. Ask for an investigation. You won’t get one but they are on notice that fraud is suspected.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 10:28:24 PM PST by jch10 (BO went to bed and let Americans die.)
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To: Think free or die

Can a citizen sue for redress when their vote is not counted?


17 posted on 11/08/2012 10:34:50 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Bigjimslade

It was also in the early ballots that Allen West in Florida initially had a 2,000 point lead and then they went back and “re-counted” and West ended up with a 2,000 point deficit. That’s a net difference of 4,000 votes - the “mistakes” discovered favored the D over the R by 4,000 to 1. How does somebody “miscount” 4,000 ballots?

The Gannett site (was it USA Today?) briefly had the tally for OH’s early votes online, and I thought it was something like a 72,000-vote lead for Romney. Yet all of a sudden the results that were supposed to be from early voting had Obama way ahead. Didn’t make sense.

Nothing about this makes sense, unless there was fraud. The clueless folks are celebrating, but I think a lot of people are scratching their heads and saying something isn’t right here. The facts don’t fit right and it doesn’t feel right either.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 10:36:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Political Junkie Too
It doesn't take 3 million fraudulent votes to steal an election. It only takes a few thousand here and there, in the right districts, in the right swing states, to tilt the electoral votes of a few key states in one direction.

Exactly --

19 posted on 11/08/2012 10:38:17 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Bigjimslade
Sooo...

A little thought popped into your brain and you got so excited you decided it was newsworthy?

You and 500 other self absorbed amateur political analyst have been spamming up the news page all day with some of the most inane vanities FR has ever experienced...including the unusually idiotic “it's Bachmann’s fault Romney lost” theory.

Show a little courtesy to those of us who like to stick to the News/Activism category by restricting your “Deep Thoughts” to General/Chat.

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 10:46:07 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: butterdezillion
What is getting me mad, people in the MSM, even on FOX and even a bunch here are trying to come up with reasons Romney loss, every reason but the most logical from past experiences with the Rats, voter fraud.
Does anybody think this election would be different, especially with a crooked Chicago thug like Obobo?
21 posted on 11/08/2012 10:47:04 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
What's the matter con man, increasing threads about obvious voter fraud getting you nervous?
Worried that people are starting to realize what happened?
22 posted on 11/08/2012 10:51:22 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: butterdezillion
Nothing about this makes sense, unless there was fraud. The clueless folks are celebrating, but I think a lot of people are scratching their heads and saying something isn’t right here. The facts don’t fit right and it doesn’t feel right either.

Yeppers --

23 posted on 11/08/2012 10:52:44 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Bigjimslade

bttt


24 posted on 11/08/2012 11:02:29 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: The Cajun

WTF are you rambling on about?

“Vanities” have a category...News/Activism ain’t it.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 11:03:11 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: MrShoop; Bigjimslade

And here’s how it’s done!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3lhJVa2AnyE


26 posted on 11/08/2012 11:32:42 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: The Cajun

The GOP has never wanted to deal with Rat fraud. If folks knew the game was rigged theywouldn’t bother. Congrats, GOPe. You suicided.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 11:36:55 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Rusty0604
We need to start voter ID laws in every State now and not wait until before election.

What difference would that make, when it is the counters that determine the outcome?

28 posted on 11/08/2012 11:51:30 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Ain't rambling con man, asked you two questions that you did not answer.
29 posted on 11/09/2012 12:08:46 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Tex, IMHO, the post appears to be a near-definition example of an activism topic, so should fall under the Activism category. From the discussion thread, it appears a lot of folks appreciated it being here, if not necessarily appreciating the subject matter. Maybe News and Activism should be separated in your view? Honest question, not a dart or spear, which you seem to have plenty of...


30 posted on 11/09/2012 12:44:28 AM PST by Unc1e_Ivan (People sleep peaceably at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.)
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To: antceecee
"Can a citizen sue for redress when their vote is not counted? "

I don't know, but at this point we have D's controlling the county seat, and PA now has a D as Att'y General. I fear that our days of meaningful elections are over for a very long time. My parents fled the eastern bloc when their government fell and reprisals began. Here we go again.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 2:42:11 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: Bigjimslade

Lets look at Colorado for example.There were 500,000 more voters for the presidential slot than the state amendments,or ANY other issues on the ballot! Why would a voter just vote for the presidential race and nothing else? Not just a few voters but HALF-A MILLION voters did this! They also claim the voter turnout was 66%,but it was actually 91% of active voters.That sounds just a tad bit high to me.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 3:01:34 AM PST by makersmk2013
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To: Bigjimslade

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html?showComment=1352466630898#c6282231008266010339

In the comment thread of the link above - look at a post by ‘elaine’ at 5:33am 11/9 - she has numbers but didn’t link where they were found - those numbers are beyond fishy.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:01 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Bigjimslade

And Obama’s minions managed to delay military absentee ballots, rendering them invalid.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:43 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: biff

Purple ink will not show up well on some darker skin tones. Snookie with a tan, for instance.

Vaseline on the finger that is dipped will allow it to be wiped clean, too.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 7:35:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan
The first time I got on to FR today, and this is the first page alone...

FreeRepublic's response to this missive...

Romney Received 170,000 More Bible Belt Votes (raw totals counted so far) than McCain (Vanity)

Edmund Muskie (history lesson and cultural note)

President of American Decline.

What kinds of ads did you run into from the Romney campaign vs the Obama campaign? (vanity)

THE 2013 SWORD OF DAMOCLES (FAIRTAX)

Thank you and god bless all the veterans.

We have lost

Every one a "Vanity". I haven't read any of them, so there may be some absolute brilliance contained within these posts, but the point is, there are a lot of people like me who come here for the "news"...and the comments on the news. I configure FR to avoid most of the other categories. Stretching the definition of News/Activism too far turns FR into blogger central, and IMHO, unreadable.

The subject of this vanity is something I am very interested in, but his information would have been a welcome contribution to any number of other vote fraud posts already making the rounds.

Not my site, just my opinion...I'm just a guest in Jim's house.

36 posted on 11/09/2012 9:50:08 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: The Cajun

They were absurd accusations disguised as questions...you over-imagine your own cleverness.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 9:56:35 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Still ain't answered the two questions con man.
The guy has VANITY written 3 times in the title line, don't click on it instead of jumping down his throat like an a-h.
Non-clever enough for you now?
Oh, and BTW, I do consider this subject much needed activism of the type and subject much needed right now.
38 posted on 11/09/2012 10:37:50 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Bigjimslade

Hmm... At least I managed to start a discussion about Vanity posts ? I’m not a regular poster and it sounds like some others that responded aren’t either but when you start a post their are a list of forums. None are called Vanity but the News/Activism one is the only one that I ever see the way my screen has been set up from the beginning, so I thought it was OK especially since I listed it as Vanity and put vanity all over the post. No one changed the title, I meant it to say that so that others that were sick of such posts could just pass it by.

I guess I used the wrong forum so to those who politely questioned my placement like upchuck, I’m sorry and thanks for the advice. For those who chose to attack me in not so polite terms like Texas-con-man I understand how hard it is for people with your condition to see things out of place and how much anger it generates so I especially apologize for the angst it must have caused you. I know some people can’t just “let it go” when something is out of place and things are untidy. I can’t begin to understand how anyone can function as well as you with 90% of their brain obsessed with the minutia that the rest of us just let pass by without a second thought. I salute you for that and I’ll make sure not to do it again.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 12:48:04 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: MrShoop

My only response is that if 17% of the vote might have vanished in OH, where everyone was watching, (not saying that it did), how many votes do you think could disappear in CA where everything is run by Dems and no one was paying attention. If they could pull that off in OH under scrutiny 3 million nationwide would be nothing.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 12:51:44 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: norton

If we called the UN in to another country to observe and they followed our practices we’d likely be up in arms too.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 12:53:41 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Think free or die

Sounds like you know the PA system better than me. In my case my wife and I went to the polls as we ended up in town and the law says you have to go void the ballots and vote on the machines if you aren’t away. Also, she was worried that her ballot might not count because she ticked all the Rs and then acidentally voted the R line as well.

The people at the desk had no clue so they got the judge who told us that “technically you’re supposed to void your ballot” we then said we were worried we miss marked our ballots so he reluctantly took our names and said go vote while he looked for our ballots. When we got in line to sign the book I noticed some others had Voted Absentee next to their name and thought, here we go again, but ours weren’t marked that way. It took about an hour to vote and when we left he still hadn’t found our ballots but didn’t seem surprised. I sent them in about 14 days early.

It sucks to think every election that your vote is being cancelled by fraud. It’s a whole other level to realize someone took away your right to vote after you went through all the trouble to make sure you did the right thing.

When I dropped those ballots in the mailbox my stomach turned as I know those union workers all realize that with email and other mailing options that there is no justification for keeping the postal service at the same size. They also know that the dems are always there to vote any cutbacks down. I’ve lost two things ever in the mail. First, the products I bought from the Romney store, Second, my ballot. Go figure. It might not have happened there as I know a lot of good people work for the post office but it would only take one or two to pull something like that off.

I realize the mail vote in PA is small, around 5% this year but if they got a hold of 2% of the R votes and replaced them with manufactured D votes to keep the numbers the same and add to that the Philly machine that would be enough to change PA’s vote.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 1:08:59 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: butterdezillion

I hadn’t heard the Allen West story but that is shocking. We all know early voting was pushed on us as a way to extend the dems ability to commit fraud. Maybe they’ve just perfected it.

I wish I had noted some of the other early/absentee numbers from election night but they were all way off in favor of Obama in the swing states. I just don’t get it. The United State elections project web site has a list of all the OH absentee/early voters and total numbers adding up to 31% of the 2008 vote and they have it as last updated 11/5 before the election. If they had that why would the media not have the same info the next night and why did they start OH with a 60:40 split with a total that didn’t include more than 11% of OH’s voters, most of whom had to be Republican if you consider the 50:36:14 that even the democrats themselves reported for the party breakdown.

I need to find the total # that actually voted in person that night. Subtract that from the total votes counted and if it leaves 31% no obvious fraud but it leaves the 20% reported on election night something happened.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:44 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: butterdezillion

I hadn’t heard the Allen West story but that is shocking. We all know early voting was pushed on us as a way to extend the dems ability to commit fraud. Maybe they’ve just perfected it.

I wish I had noted some of the other early/absentee numbers from election night but they were all way off in favor of Obama in the swing states. I just don’t get it. The United State elections project web site has a list of all the OH absentee/early voters and total numbers adding up to 31% of the 2008 vote and they have it as last updated 11/5 before the election. If they had that why would the media not have the same info the next night and why did they start OH with a 60:40 split with a total that didn’t include more than 11% of OH’s voters, most of whom had to be Republican if you consider the 50:36:14 that even the democrats themselves reported for the party breakdown.

I need to find the total # that actually voted in person that night. Subtract that from the total votes counted and if it leaves 31% no obvious fraud but it leaves the 20% reported on election night something happened.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:50 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Uncle Chip

Nothing about this makes sense, unless there was fraud. The clueless folks are celebrating, but I think a lot of people are scratching their heads and saying something isn’t right here. The facts don’t fit right and it doesn’t feel right either.
Yeppers —

Another Amen to that statement. This wouldn’t have entered my mind if I hadn’t heard story after story of how well we were doing from reliable sources that have told it like it was when we were in bad shape in the past. This election just doesn’t pass the sniff test.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 1:28:52 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: danamco

Used to use those damn machines in VA. Never trusted them a bit.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 1:32:22 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Think free or die

God, I hate to hear stories from people that had that experience, breaks my heart thinking about what it must feel like to see it all happening again in the one place they thought it never could.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 1:34:59 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Bigjimslade

Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 1:36:29 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: makersmk2013

Lets look at Colorado for example.There were 500,000 more voters for the presidential slot than the state amendments,or ANY other issues on the ballot! Why would a voter just vote for the presidential race and nothing else? Not just a few voters but HALF-A MILLION voters did this! They also claim the voter turnout was 66%,but it was actually 91% of active voters.That sounds just a tad bit high to me.

—You’re right, we didn’t nothing when the started turning out 90% precincts, so they turned out 100% ones, impossible right ? but we did nothing so 110, 120, 150%. How high do you think the turnout will be in Philly precincts this time ? 300% ? would you be shocked? We were supposed to be up in early voting in CO according to everyone, wish I had seen the # for that one at the beginning of the count.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 1:38:38 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: makersmk2013

Lets look at Colorado for example.There were 500,000 more voters for the presidential slot than the state amendments,or ANY other issues on the ballot! Why would a voter just vote for the presidential race and nothing else? Not just a few voters but HALF-A MILLION voters did this! They also claim the voter turnout was 66%,but it was actually 91% of active voters.That sounds just a tad bit high to me.

—You’re right, we didn’t nothing when the started turning out 90% precincts, so they turned out 100% ones, impossible right ? but we did nothing so 110, 120, 150%. How high do you think the turnout will be in Philly precincts this time ? 300% ? would you be shocked? We were supposed to be up in early voting in CO according to everyone, wish I had seen the # for that one at the beginning of the count.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 1:38:38 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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