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Yes, Another Vanity Suggesting Fraud ie vote destruction.
Vanity | 11-8-2012 | Vanity

Posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:02 PM PST by Bigjimslade

Sorry but I think we have just witnessed a whole new level of voter fraud. Yes, the dems undoubtedly manufactured votes but did they also destroy valid ballots ? Feel free to pick my ideas apart, I hope you do so I can get this crap off my mind. Just please do it using the numbers not just your impressions.

I don't know who else noticed this but when the early/absentee votes for OH showed up and the 1% precints was still showing Dick Morris tweeted not to worry as this was the early vote. However, I was very worried because of the numbers. There was an 18.5% gap with a near 60/40 split which was not what we had heard at all.

Rasmussen and others were telling us this was 40% of the vote and I knew we couldn't make that up. When I compared it to 2008 it was actually about 20% of that vote which meant we had a better chance of making it up but once again 20% didn't make sense from what we knew. Where did the other votes go and why were these votes so skewed ? Were early votes from R counties destroyed ?

Then when I heard that Romney got less votes than McCain in OH and PA it really made me think that there might have been an effort to destroy the early votes from Republican areas. The reported party breakdown of early votes in OH on election day according to Bloomberg's Dem source: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-06/the-early-election-results-captured-by-democratic-microtargeters was 50D 36R 14I. The only way this turns into a near 59:40 breakdown is if the Indies went about 70:30 to Obama or many R’s voted for O which the polls don’t seem to bear out.

The only other explanation I can think of is that only the early voting was shown and absentees were much more favorable for us but not listed ? The actual # reported on Bloomberg was 1,442,536 which was about 27% or so and when I looked it up on a site that gave the actual counts down to the voter's names it should have actually been in the mid 30s percentage wise. Perhaps you can find the breakdown of absentee vs early votes somewhere ?

In surrounding states like IN, KY, WV Romney did much better than McCain by percentage and generated more votes overall. He also did better in other battlegrounds.

Either the negative/mostly untrue ads suppressed our voters only in OH and PA or someone suppressed their actual votes in a big way. I just can’t believe Romney/Ryan with 4 yrs of Obama turned out fewer R voters than McCain in these states. Other states in the eye of the storm or out West that we knew wouldn't count, maybe there but not OH and PA. All the indicators were going our way all day, either we were being lied to or something happened to these votes.

BTW, I know my absentee ballot didn't make it as I went to the polls and checked. Sent it in 14 days earlier.


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Check you absentee ballots.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:07 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Bigjimslade

Why did you post this vanity in News?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: Bigjimslade

Here is my critique of your theory. There was certainly fraud, but obama won by ~3 million votes. The only race that was close enough to likely be affected by fraud was Florida, and it didn’t matter without Virginia/Ohio/Colorado/Wisconsin. So this election was not stolen. Focus on getting Voter ID laws passed, but more importantly, a better candidate for next time.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 9:26:30 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Bigjimslade
Since Wednesday morning I've been haunted by the UN observer's amazement that we conducted elections based on trust instead of positive anti fraud measures.

He was right to be doubtful.

4 posted on 11/08/2012 9:28:45 PM PST by norton
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To: Bigjimslade
My son voted absentee in PA, and I believe his vote was destroyed. I personally sent in his application after having him sign it. He told me the ballot arrived and that he sent it in a week before it was due (before Hurricane Sandy).

When I checked at our polling place, the list where his ballot should have been included did not show his name. This list is generated at the county elections office, and normally shows who received absentee ballots and whether they were returned completed. Not only was his ballot not shown as having come back completed, it was not even on the list. It simply ceased to exist. Poof, gone.

When I asked the elections judge, she told me she had seen a number of absentee irregularities and was very concerned. She called the county officials who gave a BS story about how they might not have scanned it yet. That still doesn't explain the lack of an entry on the absentee list. I spoke with a member of our committee later and he reminded me that we'd lost a number of county level seats to the D's in the past county election and that the elections office is now staffed by D's. He wasn't surprised by it.

As to our absentees, when I heard the ballots counted, the majority of the absentees voted straight R ticket, and there were more than I've seen in past elections.

Our polling place also featured a D lawyer the entire day as poll watcher, and voting machines that had to be re-booted about 6 times during the day because of malfunctions. This was all in a collar county of Philadelphia in a normally quiet, albeit heavily D area. Discouraging.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 9:33:18 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: MrShoop; upchuck; Bigjimslade

Mr Shoop, you seem to be saying that it doesn’t matter. In the outcome of this election, I agree. In the overall sense, it definitely matters. Somebody defrauded the electorate this time, they will defraud the electorate next time. And next time it just might matter.

Mr upchuck, Some vanities are news-worthy.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 9:37:26 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Bigjimslade

What wss the original title? Why are the mods changing titles?


7 posted on 11/08/2012 9:39:39 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: MrShoop
Every fraudulent vote is an attempt to steal an election.

The question you ask is whether it's a conspiracy, that is, knowing that one individual's fraudulent vote would never be enough to steal an election, is there a knowledge that everyone else's fraudulent vote will add up to collectively steal the election?

Do you think that one side, but not the other, is actively seeking to collectively steal the election?

It doesn't take 3 million fraudulent votes to steal an election. It only takes a few thousand here and there, in the right districts, in the right swing states, to tilt the electoral votes of a few key states in one direction.

-PJ

8 posted on 11/08/2012 9:44:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

We need to start voter ID laws in every State now and not wait until before election. Wish we could do away with early voting too. I read some people went to vote and someone had already voted in their name.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 9:48:11 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: RobinOfKingston

I agree it is a problem. I think pushing Voter ID laws will be one of the most effective measures to keep it in check. But I also think there is too much complaining about it in regards to this election, with sadly and embarrassingly wasn’t close.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 10:01:57 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Bigjimslade
Romney votes HAD to have been purged (ballots & electronically)

FORGED Selective Service card. STOLEN birth certificate (Virginia Sunahara). STOLEN Social Security number (CT). FORGED & STOLEN election. Why would we expect a free and fair election from a fraudulent president? We all know how he got to 2008. Just a replay for 2012. We shouldn't be shocked. We should be flooding Congress with calls: (202) 224-3121.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 10:06:54 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: MrShoop

How about 500,000 bottles of purple ink? LOL


12 posted on 11/08/2012 10:10:18 PM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Democrats are the only party in a position to commit fraud en masse because they are in complete control of the corrupt urban areas. And the people that are relied on to execute elections are mostly public employees, union members, and democrats. I don't think there is a conspiracy, just lots of local corruption.

In 2004 Bush won Virginia 53% to 45%. We just need better candidates, and bigger margins more than anything else.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 10:15:35 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: Rusty0604

Somebody better be working on this NOW, well-ahead of 2016 but we can’t be sure there’ll be any more elections.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 10:20:23 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: MrShoop

It all boils down to absence of ethics, dignity, honor and RESPECT FOR OUR ELECTION PROCESS. None of this is taught in the schools anymore. Votes and voting has been ‘cheapened’ by unethical liberals. You omitted plain-clothed ACORN, Black Panthers and those ‘mysterious’ United Nations poll monitors who came bearing gifts (ballots ‘pre-filled in Europe’ for Obama)


15 posted on 11/08/2012 10:28:02 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Bigjimslade

FIRST,
Elect Repub county officials......never, ever vote for a Dem. A Repub Supv. of Elections can prevent all kinds of monkey business.
Second, call the Supv’s office and ask the absentee procedures. If you still aren’t satisfied, go to the office. Use the word “fraud” at some point in conversation.
Ask around and find others who requested absentees.

Third, If you haven’t got answers, call your State’s Attorney. Ask for an investigation. You won’t get one but they are on notice that fraud is suspected.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 10:28:24 PM PST by jch10 (BO went to bed and let Americans die.)
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To: Think free or die

Can a citizen sue for redress when their vote is not counted?


17 posted on 11/08/2012 10:34:50 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Bigjimslade

It was also in the early ballots that Allen West in Florida initially had a 2,000 point lead and then they went back and “re-counted” and West ended up with a 2,000 point deficit. That’s a net difference of 4,000 votes - the “mistakes” discovered favored the D over the R by 4,000 to 1. How does somebody “miscount” 4,000 ballots?

The Gannett site (was it USA Today?) briefly had the tally for OH’s early votes online, and I thought it was something like a 72,000-vote lead for Romney. Yet all of a sudden the results that were supposed to be from early voting had Obama way ahead. Didn’t make sense.

Nothing about this makes sense, unless there was fraud. The clueless folks are celebrating, but I think a lot of people are scratching their heads and saying something isn’t right here. The facts don’t fit right and it doesn’t feel right either.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 10:36:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Political Junkie Too
It doesn't take 3 million fraudulent votes to steal an election. It only takes a few thousand here and there, in the right districts, in the right swing states, to tilt the electoral votes of a few key states in one direction.

Exactly --

19 posted on 11/08/2012 10:38:17 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Bigjimslade
Sooo...

A little thought popped into your brain and you got so excited you decided it was newsworthy?

You and 500 other self absorbed amateur political analyst have been spamming up the news page all day with some of the most inane vanities FR has ever experienced...including the unusually idiotic “it's Bachmann’s fault Romney lost” theory.

Show a little courtesy to those of us who like to stick to the News/Activism category by restricting your “Deep Thoughts” to General/Chat.

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 10:46:07 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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