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1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:20 PM PST by i88schwartz
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Assuming there are 30 million illegals in America, that's enough to create some 50 congressional districts and they don't even need to vote to do it. If they do vote, you can pretty much count on those districts being almost exclusively democrat. As it is we don't know how many districts exist almost wholly due to the presence of illegals.

The costs of administering a single district must run into the millions. How much pork can a district seek? How many earmarks? What will all those new democrat congressmen vote for?

If you think Obamacare is bad, you haven't seen squat. Wait till the day all those democrats start dictating how many cars a family can have, what job you can have, or where you can live. Wait till they dictate that all paychecks come from government and you get a small cut of what is left over.

Illegals are nothing but government growth hormone and amnesty today is nothing short of treason.
2 posted on 11/08/2012 7:44:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The first problem with the article is calling Charles Krauthammer a conservative.

Krauthammer can only be percieved a conservative by a someone like Obama with a Marxist worldview.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:01 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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Just another example of Republicans catering to illegals for their votes (legal or not). We have become a government that appeases the non citizens. Welcome to Amerika.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 7:54:29 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: i88schwartz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

Mark Levin’s position on amnesty is sound as it always has been but the GOP and Romney had NO strategy to court Hispanic votes, as challenging as that would be this time around. And Romney is certainly not able to convert many voters to R.

That was an fatal mistake.

For years now the Dems on the Dem channel been showing the electoral map and how it soon will not be possible to win the WH at all without Hispanic voters, cheering it on.

The GOP needs to try to understand these people and find things they want that Dems can’t offer them that they can, at least to fracture the group. Yes I know that is difficult. And at least try to get some of them to not vote.

The economy completely tanking under O would give an huge opening.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 7:57:31 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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Immigration isn’t the problem. The problem is that you don’t even speak to hispanics. Instead, you throw out some richie rich white guy from MA and expect to win. When I say “richie rich” I’m not talking about the money but the attitude that comes with it.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 8:00:47 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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“And all the rest of the Republicans who are falling into the race pandering and race politics stuff and sound stupid, and look stupid, and are embarrassing themselves. And are going to destroy the Republican party or what’s left of it.”

To0 late Mark. The GOP is dead. In it’s place is a new party, still called the GOP, which is modelled after the Democrats.

I


10 posted on 11/08/2012 8:03:53 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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“And all the rest of the Republicans who are falling into the race pandering and race politics stuff and sound stupid, and look stupid, and are embarrassing themselves. And are going to destroy the Republican party or what’s left of it.”

To0 late Mark. The GOP is dead. In it’s place is a new party, still called the GOP, which is modelled after the Democrats.

I


11 posted on 11/08/2012 8:04:01 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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The election was the result of one thing, freebies and Romney didn’t offer enough to these people.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 8:07:35 PM PST by tobyhill
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Let’s see, over 80% currently vote for Democrats. Is Krauthammer under the delusion that the additional 30 million won’t do the same and will switch to Republicans?


15 posted on 11/08/2012 8:08:07 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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Hispanics won’t vote GOP unless they’re given freebies or have candidates that speak Spanish (GWB).


18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:16:25 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. Hispanics are Democrats for the same reason all other Democrats are Democrats - it’s the freebies, Charlie. When “the man” runs out of all that money they think he has,the riots will start. - Obama has done more to divide this country through his hatred and anger, while insisting rather split personalityish that he’s the Great Unifier, than any President.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:17:52 PM PST by Twinkie (OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE A MANDATE!!!!)
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Laura had a couple of Hispanic leaders on the BOR show who absolutely agreed with Levin’s point. They were adamant that Hispanics want to become solid middleclass ordinary Americans, that’s why they come here, legally and otherwise. Pandering on the immigration issue will not gain their votes and in fact will drive them away.

What the hell is Kraut thinking? This is Democrat-logic...dividing people into categories and offering “stuff” to them in exchange for their votes.

Our way is to explain the benefits of liberty, the opportunities provided only by capitalism, and the values that made America the place everyone wants to come to.

THAT is what the Republicans need to do. They know it and to some extent even believe it - they just don’t DO it very well. Go watch some Reagan video - he didn’t pander to anyone but he painted the vision of greatness for everyone.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:22:50 PM PST by bigbob
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Aww fer cry sakes all I heard during this election cycle was I’ll vote for Donald Duck bla bla bla..Well 2 million stayed home...Let’s face it

;Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that barrel with.. He failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s energy policies...The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. Including rampant corruption. Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his ?

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Senate campaign played games and his material
never warned voters that if Obama gets re-elected as well as senate the chances of repealing Obama care ...AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED OR HAS CREATED A SHORTAGE IN THE ENERGY SUPPLY WHICH DOUBLED THE COST IN EVERYTHING SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE BY DESIGN IGNORING A BASIC BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE..

Both of their campaigns were looking at the polling and instead of investigating the reasoning and gearing the campaigns towards correcting their findings or a least investigating them . Dismissed them.

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:25:14 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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if you think that is funny then go look at dumbass freepers on the Puerto Rico wants statehood threads

i swear the stupid here have taken over


33 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Would that all Jews were Mark Levin

it might be a different country given their media and cultural clout

he has carried the water past 48 hours like no one else...like me his heart ain’t good and he breaths bad...I know the feeling.....the steady congestion and and inhalers and all that junk...

.but you gotta keep the flame alive and he is doing it

Rush has been ok...so-so

Rush always has an ear to keeping access

Levin is a treasure...*

as long as we don;t get into the 1860s....I love him

I have all his books

damn...the same jackasses who forced Romney on us now blame us for their folly

are we gonna put up with it?

many here are no better...suicide...they refuse to see what did us in cause they are scared to be called racist

the same fear that let it happen to begin with the past 40 years

our ancestors were not so soft nor under any illusion about allowing our country to be overrun by third world rot culture


36 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:14 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Granting amnesty to many millions more illegals simply means that many more votes for Democrats.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 3:32:09 AM PST by driftless2
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I really don’t think most illegals want or care to be citizens. They don’t want to pay taxes, but they do want to vote for the bennies and not get kicked out. They want to roam freely back and forth over the border.

So far it has worked pretty well for them. LOL


64 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:38 AM PST by dforest
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