Posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:15 PM PST by i88schwartz
Mark Levin responds to calls from conservative commentators, like Charles Krauthammer, to grant amnesty to illegal immigration in order to entice Hispanics to vote Republican. Levin explains why this won't work and what a slippery slope amnesty would be. (Mark Levin Show, November 8, 2012)
MARK LEVIN: You know, I've always known this, but I'm coming to the conclusion yet again that Republican leaders are really stupid people. And I'm coming to the conclusion that are an awful lot of stupid people posing as commentators on cable TV. I mean, where do these people come from?
Now, this immigration issue. How did this become the big issue after the election? It had nothing to do with the Republican loss.
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LEVIN: I want to talk to Charles Krauthammer, who I like very much. I want to talk to all these GOP talking heads all over TV, some of whom are my friends, most of whom clearly are not. And all the rest of the Republicans who are falling into the race pandering and race politics stuff and sound stupid, and look stupid, and are embarrassing themselves. And are going to destroy the Republican party or what's left of it.
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I never said ANYTHING about that. I never made any point like that. Who are you talking to?
We have created a permanent underclass populated by blacks and Hispanics. What is disturbing is that Asians voted for Obama by an even higher margin than Hispanics if you believe the exit polls. And they have been very successful overall educationally and economically. We are becoming Balkanized along racial, ethnic, and linguistic lines. The government has incentivized group identification thru affirmative action and minority business set asides. This country is becoming more polarized.
Here is what we will face in Obama's second term. And Obamacare is also full of racial preferences. Obama believes he can assemble a coaltion made up of minorities and essentially become the permanent majority party. Non-Hispanic whites will be the target, particularly males. Obama is an angry racist and now it is payback time.
So utterly naive and pandering.” GOP has to needs to try to understand these people and find things they want that Dems can’t offer them”” ? Giveaways ? Token positions of leadership like Powell ? Then get slapped in the face for it ? We are all Americans period. I am so sick o the PANDERING! Mark Levin is so right. Do not go for the amnesty crap the rinocrats are pushing.
It disgusts me that some so called conservatives think the secret is to give a specific racial group more free stuff.
Sure its the same nation destroying policy that the democrats are using to destroy America but we’ll be winning as we flush ourselves down the toilet.
The only thing that should be given is an ultimatum. You will remove them or we will.
Granting amnesty to many millions more illegals simply means that many more votes for Democrats.
amnesty will just create more Dem voters faster. That is obvious.
However the ‘all is lost’ message by so many now, many of the same ones who said Romney was winning a landslide, is pointless.
Does Levin even understand why GOP got beat?
Amnesty will just create more Dem voters. That would be counter-productive.
So is Marks plan just to just let Dems win all the elections forever and have every miserable white male baby-boomer be a listener of his program? That is a great plan for him(and Rush), not so for us.
The is what was suggested in the hostile replies I got here.
Landslide win yesterday, no hope tomorrow, Such is the world of a Rush groupie
You just joined here on Election day Tuesday Nov 6. 2012 three days ago??
And you jump on my comment poo-pooing me like that? Take a hike new-bee.
The nation’s immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached 40 million in 2010, the highest number in our history. The U.S. immigrant population has doubled since 1990, nearly tripled since 1980, and quadrupled since 1970, when it stood at 9.7 million. Of the 40 million immigrants in the country in 2010, 13.9 million arrived in 2000 or later making it the highest decade of immigration in American history, even though there was a net loss of jobs during the decade. Growth in the immigrant population has primarily been driven by high levels of legal immigration. Roughly three-fourths of immigrants in the country are here legally. With nearly 12 million immigrants, Mexico was by far the top immigrant-sending country, accounting for 29 percent of all immigrants and 29 percent of growth in the immigrant population from 2000 to 2010. The median age of immigrants in 2010 was 41.4 compared to 35.9 for natives.
You forgot Reagan amnesty and GWB leaving the borders open. Lots of generations from illegals now. And they love the sweet talking hip Obama.
I hate Sen Grahamnesty. He is very dishonest. He pulled that constitutional amendment crap last year just to screw the idea of ending birthright citizenshiip.
Advocate a pro-immigrant policy of low immigration.
Republicans need to provide the American people with their own comprehensive immigration reform plan, i.e., give people a reason to vote FOR something rather than just attack the other side’s proposals. Such a plan should contain the following elements:
Formulate a merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;
Reduce immigration levels based on need more closely approximating 300,000 a year;
Eliminate extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family,
Secure the border;
Enforce existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (5) make mandatory and improve such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;
Eliminate birthright citizenship and the visa lottery program;
Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;
Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases;
Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.
That is a good plan.
But as I mentioned Grahamnesty purposely got on Sunday TV suggesting, not even proposing, a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship just to kill the idea.
Legally you dont need an amendment as the US doesnt give that to everyone born here even now.
The Reagan amnesty of 1986 (Simpson-Mazolli) was a major mistake and Ed Meese has said as much. It was supposed to be a one-time amnesty never to be done again. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply and the true number turned out to be 2.7 million. The process was rife with fraud. The enforcement portions of the bill were never implemented. It was supposed to solve our illegal alien problem, now we have 12 to 20 million illegals waiting for the next amnesty.
Bush 41 was just as bad as Bush 43 on immigration. Bush 41 signed legislation to double the annual numbers on legal immigrants. When you reward something, you get more of it. If there is a second amnesty, there will be another one, which will be far easier to pass because of the changed demography.
Graham, McCain, Jeb Bush, and other Reps are part of the problem. Boehner bottled up E-Verify legislation coming out of Lamar Smith's Justice committee and wouldn't even allow it to come to the floor for a vote. The GOP leadership is bought and paid for by the Chamber of Commerce. We are bringing in 125,000 LEGAL FOREIGN WORKERS A MONTH RIGHT NOW, which includes permanent immigrants with green cards and those here on temporary work visas. At the same time, 23 million Americans are looking for fulltime employment.
We will continue to fight the immigration at the state level despite the recent SCOTUS decision on AZ 1070. The majority of the American people want our immigration laws enforced. Unfortunately, we have cowardly and bought off politicians from both parties blocking any real immigration reform.
I won't go into all the details here, but it is a legal issue that may eventually have to be decided by a Constitutional amendment, but that is the last resort. I know all of the legal background and history on birthright citizenship.
If Congress were to pass a law eliminating birthright citizenship, there is no doubt that it would be challenged in the courts and eventually go to SCOTUS for resolution. If SCOTUS upholds the challenge, then the only recourse is to change the Constitution.
We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year in this country. Most are paid thru Medicaid and most are on food stamps and receive other welfare benefits, which they are entitled to as an American citizen. One in every 10 births in this country is to an illegal alien.
But they are reproducing here at a far faster rate than whites and the GOP needs a strategy relating to them or 2004 will be the last POTUS victory.
So my original point was to find some thing to offer them that Dems cant give them(which is obviously not welfare, this was misunderstood), in the past I have suggested at least ads to turn them off from voting.
But ignoring a growing problem like that is suicide,
Look Ryan offered those over 55 amnesty on his medicare reform to clearly keep their vote, that was pandoring for sure, but you should of seen all the *conservatives * supporting that bad idea.
No it wont because such an amendment will be ratified. No amendments will be ratified anymore, esp that one, so such fantasy talk just turns me off.\
We don't give citizenship to diplomats kids. So why illegals? You are right about the courts being a problem though. The wise latino.
There is simply no way a Republican is going to “out-Democrat” a Democrat by competing on the basis of who can give away the most. Republicans will lose every time. It is a failed strategy at its core.
Read what I said again.
OK you've got a problem with Limbaugh, I get it. But Limbaugh's accuracy rate wasn't really my point.
Anyone who is serious should have a problem with Rush.
Yes they are pre-disposed to being attracted to gubment goodies but Rush is wrong when he says they dont want amnesty.
Obama’s Dream act exec order for those who look like victims brought here as kids is generally popular with voters.
If it wasnt he wouldnt have used it as an election year ploy.
You see Mitt arguing against it once he won the primary? Of course not. He read the polls. And who here demanded that he should? Certainly none on this thread who jumped on me for just defining the problem.
Look, Rush is usually wrong and denying reality is not a solution.
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