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Rumor Has It We're Sending Humans Beyond The Moon
TBI ^ | Dina Spector

Posted on 11/08/2012 2:52:51 PM PST by blam

Rumor Has It We're Sending Humans Beyond The Moon

Dina Spector
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:55 PM

NASA. The Orion capsule will carry astronauts farther into the solar system than ever before

President Barack Obama is still in power, which is good news for NASA, whose budget, strategy and missions may have been revised under defeated Republication presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

Space policy expert John Logsdon told Space.com's Mike Wall that plans to send humans to the far side of the moon have already been approved by the Obama administration, but were kept hush-hush in case Romney won Tuesday night's election.

The plan involves establishing a manned outpost about 38,000 miles from the moon in an area known as the Earth-moon libration point 2, or EML-2. This is a gravitationally stable spot, making it possible to "park" a spacecraft there, explains Wall. The station would service as a holding pen for astronauts so they could eventually do other things in space, like land on an asteroid (planned for 2025) or visit Mars (planned for the mid-2030s).

Mumblings of NASA's plans to send astronauts beyond the moon were reported back in September by the Orlando Sentinel's Mark K. Matthews when NASA Chief Charlie Bolden outlined the ambitious proposal to the White House.

In the meantime, a very powerful rocket called the Space Launch System and a space capsule are being developed so that NASA can theoretically begin construction on the outpost by 2021.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asteroid; eml2; moon; nasa; space

1 posted on 11/08/2012 2:52:53 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Li`bra´tion point` (lî`brā´shŭn point`) n. 1. any one of five points in the plane of a system of two large astronomical bodies orbiting each other, as the Earth-moon system, where the gravitational pull of the two bodies on an object are approximately equal, and in opposite directions. A solid object moving in the same velocity and direction as such a libration point will remain in gravitational equilibrium with the two bodies of the system and not fall toward either body
2 posted on 11/08/2012 2:56:25 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
President Barack Obama is still in power, which is good news for NASA,

The author's mind is apparently beyond the Moon ...

3 posted on 11/08/2012 2:56:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: blam

Oh so now he’s JFK...


4 posted on 11/08/2012 2:57:36 PM PST by opticks
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To: blam
The plan involves establishing a manned outpost about 38,000 miles from the moon in an area known as the Earth-moon libration point 2, or EML-2.

Its not all that hush hush because I read about this weeks ago right here at FR.
5 posted on 11/08/2012 3:00:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blam

Good. Start with space cadets like Sheila Jackson Lee and Dennis
Kookcinich.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 3:02:15 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: blam

Man has already visited Mars and been in underground dwellings there (if you watch TV and believe those shows) .Inside a top secret building in El Segundo, CA, you can .’jump’ from the 8th floor and teleport yourself to Mars. I saw it on TV!!!


7 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:35 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: blam

Cool. I think Obama could really show his strong leadership skills if he personally led this space mission to the outer solar system.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 3:04:08 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: blam
From space.com (high school students send Barry to the edge of space.
9 posted on 11/08/2012 3:05:21 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: blam

Nah.. Obama will insist they use wind power to get there.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 3:07:20 PM PST by trublu
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To: blam
Can we load up Obama, Holder, Jarret, and all their minions and send them to the far side of the moon?

And does that count toward NASA's prime mission of "Muslim Outreach"?

11 posted on 11/08/2012 3:10:04 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: blam
So that's BO's plan to deal with his political opponents!
12 posted on 11/08/2012 3:13:17 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: blam

Now obama just wants to load it with some conservative "astronauts."

13 posted on 11/08/2012 3:14:15 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: blam

I was surprised to hear 2 rocket engine tests at Stennis today. Something I hadn’t heard in years.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 3:16:02 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: blam

Why is NASA reaching to the other side of the moon... Are there muslims over there to outreach to?


15 posted on 11/08/2012 3:20:49 PM PST by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: blam

When did they change the name? It used to be LaGrange points.
Do I need to change my screen name?

L.P.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 3:21:31 PM PST by lagrange point1 (Space is no longer the final frontier)
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To: blam

Nasa is wanting 20 years to design a capsule. It only took them 8 years for the entire moon program. We aren’t going anywhere.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 3:25:19 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: blam

There’s a vacation the obummers can take.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 3:29:35 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: blam
I have friends at NASA and obama has stopped almost anything of real value to manned flight. This is nothing but BS... that is all obama and his court are... BS. He is defacto king so stop calling it his administration... jarrett and others serve the king in his court.

LLS

19 posted on 11/08/2012 3:29:42 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: blam

By the way, if I remember my Celestial Mechanics classes, only L4 and L5 are truly “stable”. The others are “meta-stable”, which means that they are stable in two dimensions only. L4 and L5 are stable in three dimensions.

L.P.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:07 PM PST by lagrange point1 (Space is no longer the final frontier)
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To: blam
The plan involves establishing a manned outpost about 38,000 miles from the moon in an area known as the Earth-moon libration point 2, or EML-2. This is a gravitationally stable spot, making it possible to "park" a spacecraft there, explains Wall.

Somebody has their terminology screwed up. "Libration" refers to an effect caused by the apparent wobble of the Moon as it orbits the Earth. The Moon always keeps the same side toward the Earth, but due to libration, 59% of the Moon's surface can be seen over a period of time. What they were trying to say was "Lagrange Point".

Lagrange Point
French mathematician and astronomer Joseph Louis Lagrange showed that three bodies could lie at the apexes of an equilateral triangle which rotates in its plane. If one of the bodies is sufficiently massive compared with the other two, then the triangular configuration is apparently stable. Such bodies are sometimes referred to as Trojans. The leading apex of the triangle is known as the leading Lagrange point or L4; the trailing apex is the trailing Lagrange point or L5.

Easy mistake to make (both words begin with "L") but they mean entirely different things. If we are ever to move permanently into space and commercialize the asteroid belt, we will need to build a large base at one of the Lagrange points. The best way to do that would be to start with a base on the Moon, use solar power to produce building materials for the Lagrange station from Moon rock and ship it to the assembly point with a mass driver.

If the Earth is going to survive population pressure we need to begin moving permanently into near space and then progress further as technology develops. We are made of "star-stuff", it's time to go home.

Regards,
GtG

PS A mass driver on the Moon would make an excellent way to launch kinetic weapons (rods of God?) back at Earth should the need arise.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:07 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
PS A mass driver on the Moon would make an excellent way to launch kinetic weapons (rods of God?) back at Earth should the need arise.

Lyndon Johnson: And as I was sayin', whoever controls the high ground of space controls the world. The Roman Empire controlled the world because it could build roads. Later, the British Empire was dominant because they had ships. In the Air Stage, we were powerful because we had the airplane. And now the Communists have established a foothold in outer space. Pretty soon they'll have damned space platforms so they can drop nuclear bombs on us, like rocks from a highway overpass. Now HOW IN THE HELL did they ever get ahead of us?

22 posted on 11/08/2012 3:37:19 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
"Libration Point" and "LaGrange Point" are interchangeable terms. For the mathematically inclined, see here: Libration Point Calculation

I was an early member of the L-5 Society. The plan was to disband the organization with an all-member meeting aboard an L-5 domicile. That plan hasn't quite worked out (yet) and the Society has since merged with the former National Space Institute to form the present National Space Society L-5 Society

23 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:39 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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24 posted on 11/08/2012 4:14:56 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: blam
All that crap needs to just go away.

Yeah, I'm sure we got Tang, Teflon and a number of other things out of that, but the "space" mission has turned into something that looks suspiciously recreational.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 4:19:44 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: lagrange point1
When I see you name, I'm reminded of the Chicken Ranch in La Grange, Texas. That was quite a place, ahem.

"The Chicken Ranch was an illegal but tolerated brothel in the U.S. state of Texas that operated from 1905 until 1973. It was located in Fayette County about 2.5 miles east of downtown La Grange. The business was established by Miss Jessie Williams, and was the basis for the 1978 Broadway musical and later movie The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 4:49:46 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Now I finally know what ZZ Top was singing about.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 5:00:43 PM PST by JimC214
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28 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: JimC214
"Now I finally know what ZZ Top was singing about."

ZZ Top - La Grange

Marvin Zindler Eye Witness News

29 posted on 11/08/2012 5:35:40 PM PST by blam
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To: KevinDavis

Thanks blam.


30 posted on 11/25/2012 4:38:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

LOL!
Ubanga sees NASA strictly as a propaganda tool for the “global warming” scam.
They’re not sending astronauts anywhere.


31 posted on 11/25/2012 4:41:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Democrats will never let humans venture to the stars...how then could they collect their taxes?


32 posted on 03/21/2013 11:24:36 AM PDT by Magnum44 (.45 Caliber - because having to shoot twice is just silly)
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