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Boehner pivots on taxes after Obama win
http://thehill.com ^ | november 8, 2012 | Russell Berman and Erik Wasson

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:22:11 PM PST by lowbridge

In the wake of the GOP’s disappointing election, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Wednesday signaled a willingness to accept higher tax revenues as part of a deficit cutting deal.

The fast-approaching deadline to stop a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts left Boehner and other leaders with little time to digest Republican Mitt Romney’s defeat on Tuesday.

Leaders on both sides of the Capitol moved swiftly to stake out their positions on the fiscal cliff, with Boehner calling for a “down payment” that would lead to a farther-reaching pact in 2013 and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) saying he did not want to see a short-term fix.

“I’m not for kicking the can down the road; I think we’ve done that far too much,” Reid told reporters in the Capitol. “I think we should just roll up our sleeves and get it done.”

The Democratic leader also cast Obama’s victory over Romney — in which the president won nearly every swing state —as overwhelming, and noted that his party gained seats in both chambers of Congress. “That’s not the status quo,” he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; obama; sourcetitlenoturl; taxes
Hey everybody, I got a brilliant idea!

John Boehner for GOP presidential candidate in 2016!!!

Who's with me?

***ducks and runs***

1 posted on 11/08/2012 1:22:20 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Hey Boehner - you can confiscate all the money of the richest people in the US and it would not put a dent in the deficit. Stand up and state “NO MORE TAXES.” ONLY CUTS.

What an idiot.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 1:24:47 PM PST by TJ Jackson
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To: lowbridge
If Boehner and any other Republicans don't want to be the next Richard Lugar in the 2014 primary, they better be pivoting right back and fast...
3 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:17 PM PST by apillar
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To: lowbridge

Don’t cave.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:31 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: lowbridge
John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Wednesday signaled a willingness to accept higher tax revenues as part of a deficit cutting deal.

Instead of The Weeper of the House Boehner, let's suggest that the Republicans get a Speaker with a little backbone like Paul Ryan. He understands the fiscal problems and instead of just bending over for Bathhouse Barry Benghazi, maybe he can extract something.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:23 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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6 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:43 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: lowbridge

So, the GOP-E wants us to compromise our basic moral values to vote for Mitt so men like Boehner can have power?

Where’s the benefit?


7 posted on 11/08/2012 1:28:14 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: lowbridge
with Boehner calling for a “down payment” that would lead to a farther-reaching pact in 2013 ...

Translation:

We will gladly accept higher taxes today with your promise to cut spending tomorrow.

That is how we got into this mess.

8 posted on 11/08/2012 1:28:45 PM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: lowbridge

Any Republicans who go along with this are traitors!!


9 posted on 11/08/2012 1:29:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Boehner will sell us out.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 1:29:48 PM PST by Venturer
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To: lowbridge
What is this guy's office number or whatever line you call? I think he needs a little "pep talk" from every single FReeper!

And who can we call in the GOP to advise them to pick a new damn speaker already.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 1:30:57 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: lowbridge

This may have been mentioned before...

The GOP is damaged goods and sometimes things have to be scrapped and rebuilt from scratch. I think the GOP might be in that situation.

Wonder if we could kick off a grass roots campaign to call our GOP reps and simply tell them that if Boehner compromises to the point that it jeopardizes our core conservative principles, then we make a vow to never vote for another GOP candidate again. Of course they won’t initially believe us, but if enough calls go in, and if the tea party (as an example) movement helps magnify this approach, they may think twice.

If not, then we send a very clear message in 2014 by sitting it out. Hope it wouldn’t come to that, but if you threaten, you need to be willing to carry forward.

Thoughts? Is this completely crazy?

We just have to figure a way to pressure our reps into taking a principled stand and telling Harry Reid to stuff it.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 1:32:19 PM PST by PsyOps
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To: lowbridge

The government takes in more than enough money to cover its Constitutionally mandated functions and duties. The problem is not revenue, the problem is overspending. A willingness to raise taxes to bring down the deficit/debt will be seen by lawmakers as a further license to overspend. Why doesn’t Boehner understand this?


13 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:10 PM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: lowbridge

Friend, I would tell Speaker Boehner to stand on the steps of the US Capitol and tell the press he is going to give obama everything the president asked for

Only condition being that the president man-up and own the results

The hollywood-honey boo boo crowd voted for this garrulous inept affirmative action clown to run the economy, so they deserve to see it in action

then watch the democrats scuttle out of the shadows to try to stop the damage they know will result

Bring it on


14 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:20 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: lowbridge
“I’m not for kicking the can down the road; I think we’ve done that far too much,” Reid told reporters in the Capitol. “I think we should just roll up our sleeves and get it done.”

Did the "journalist" at the Hill note that Harry Reid hasn't passed a single budget for 3 years? Probably not.

The remarks I read from Boehner seemed to ME to merely signal a willingness to work with Obama--exchanging taxes for cuts in entitlements...which is what Boehner offered the last time we faced this crisis, and Obama passed.

After what we've gone through this election season, I will look at EVERYTHING the "media" says about the Republicans as suspect...because the "media" refused adamantly to hold Obama/Reid/Pelosi's feet to the fire during this election season.

Not once have I seen a media outlet (except for one brief interview on SPANISH LANGUAGE TV) challenge Obama.

15 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:28 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, you should give that bastard a call. Most of us are anonymous voices. But you are a known representative of conservative values — let him know what you and the rest of us are thinking about his compromise.
16 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:53 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Venturer

I agree. Doesn’t he have to pass a vote by the GOP Reps to remain Speaker? We need to scream at our Reps to get him out and Vote for a young gun.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:53 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Venturer

Without thinking twice!


18 posted on 11/08/2012 1:34:18 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: lowbridge

Dole / Boehner

Olympia snowe running the campaign

:-)


19 posted on 11/08/2012 1:35:17 PM PST by plain talk
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To: lowbridge

Oh like WOW! Who could have predicted that the RINOs would fold? The Rats smell blood in the water here, don’t expect them to give an inch. It will be all tax increases on the wealthy (those making over $50,000 a year) and spending cuts only in the military budget. Everything else will be full speed ahead, which reminds me ... I need to get one o them Obama-phones.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 1:36:12 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: lowbridge

I am going to bombard my reps to have Boehner removed as Speaker.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 1:36:21 PM PST by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: lowbridge

I suspect the GOP will just bend over and take it in the hope that maybe THIS time they’ll get a cuddle afterward...


22 posted on 11/08/2012 1:42:15 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: lowbridge
This is nothing new. Pubbies have always said that they were willing to get more revenue - through tax reform and increasing jobs.

They have stated that they would lower the rate and broaden the base through closing loopholes.

Obama wants to raise the rates on upper income and ignore the rest which is a job - killing way to do it per Pubbies.
Wealthy people like Buffet won't pay anymore tax, but the small business owner will.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 1:42:36 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: donna

Pretty much.

Then they whine and call those that don’t reward them for this behavior with their vote traitors, responsible for the destruction of the country blah blah...

Last I checked I didn’t promise not to raise taxes and then did so. I didn’t promise to cut taxes and renege. I didn’t promise to fight healthcare then continue funding it. I didn’t sign off on earmarks and subsidies to my personal districts to grease palms for votes. I didn’t promise to read every piece of legislation before a vote then surrender. No, these are actions the people who claim to be our frontline warriors in the halls of congress make then every two to four years arrive back with empty promises things will be different this time when they didn’t follow through.

They are liars, they are cheats, they are corrupt, they have no morals and ethics, no soul centered on a strong foundation. I’m not giving my money so they can stay rich in power and not represent my interests. I’m not giving my time only to be backhanded by these elites with snickers and derision for my faith. I’m certainly not giving them the one thing mythey truly covet. A vote they have to do nothing to earn.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 1:45:01 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: lowbridge

And you guys doubted me when I said it was over! Boehner is the smell of a stale fart lingering in the Capitol building.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 1:45:54 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: lowbridge
Boehner has always been a wimp with a nice tan.

He's been practically invisible lately and when he does pop up, its to offer Obama tax hikes in exchange for Democrat promises of spending cuts. We all know how that works out. Tax hikes on everyone - not just 'the rich' - and miniscule cuts - if any - in projected budget item increases, making them useless. No thanks, John. We desperately need a new Speaker. One with a spine instead of a tan.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 1:45:59 PM PST by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: lowbridge

Pivoting like a ballerina.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 1:51:11 PM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: lowbridge

Im all for those rich liberal celebrities who raised money for Obama and cheered his re-election..let them pay their “fair share” 70 percent just like in France..they love Socialism SO much..make them suffer through it..the only way people will earn how horrible Socialism is is to make them live the consequences of it


28 posted on 11/08/2012 1:55:11 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: TJ Jackson
“NO MORE TAXES.” ONLY CUTS.

Needs repeating. “NO MORE TAXES - ONLY CUTS"

This fiscal cliff is of the Dems making - let them squirm until they give in. Hold the line on taxes and reduce them. The Dems wasted money, get them to stop.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 2:01:44 PM PST by roadcat
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To: lowbridge

So, did he actually say “raising taxes,” or is this actually still the same tax reform plan that Romney and the GOP had put forth? I see that Mediacom apparently had to change their blatantly made-up tax hike “quote” in a caption from earlier today, but trying to un-ring a bell, etc, etc.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 2:02:08 PM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It is a waste of time calling these fools...the deal will be... we will raise revenue and in the future we will cut spending..the deficit will stay the same..OBAMA buys more votes...it is over until the system collapses... there are more people getting free stuff..than people working??? Look at single women with kids...OBAMA will take care of them


31 posted on 11/08/2012 2:02:57 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: lowbridge

RINO File.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 2:03:54 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: lowbridge

Let’s see....taxes get (and stay) raised. The promised spending cuts never materialize. Ever. Rather, they become spending increases (”investments don’t ya know?).

Is there any other pattern?


33 posted on 11/08/2012 2:04:47 PM PST by rbg81
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To: crosshairs

Or an etch a sketch?


34 posted on 11/08/2012 2:06:32 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: lowbridge

“Leaders on both sides of the Capitol moved swiftly to stake out their positions on the fiscal cliff, with Boehner calling for a “down payment” that would lead to a farther-reaching pact in 2013 and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) saying he did not want to see a short-term fix.”

So according to this then Boehner is the democrat, and Reid is the republican. I can tell you this though. If Reid is actually saying that then it is a manipulative trick. The only solution involves cutting over 1 trillion in socialist benefits. As for Boehner- Yeah he really is democrat. I figure that out a long time ago.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 2:12:21 PM PST by Revel
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To: lowbridge

The GOP is “Whiged out”. Get rid of Bonehead Boehner and let’s have Wilson as speaker. You know, the guy that said “You Lie!” to Obamboozle during a speech?


36 posted on 11/08/2012 2:19:12 PM PST by getarope (Time for the repubs to grow some balls and STOP the Kenyan in his tracks NOW!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Instead of The Weeper of the House Boehner, let's suggest that the Republicans get a Speaker with a little backbone like Paul Ryan. He understands the fiscal problems and instead of just bending over for Bathhouse Barry Benghazi, maybe he can extract something.

What would be the procedure to dump Boehner? He is not up to the task. I'm letting my congresscritter know of my vote of no confidence.

37 posted on 11/08/2012 2:26:21 PM PST by SMM48
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Cleverly stated. How do we do it? sd


38 posted on 11/08/2012 2:28:52 PM PST by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: lowbridge

Gets a little old watching Boehner trashed. People just don’t get it. It isn’t the message, it is who delivers the message to the people and that happens to be our greatest enemy, THE MEDIA. Does anyone really understand that there isn’t one thing, not one, that a Republican can say that will EVER be reported fairly or accurately? The Republicans have to walk on eggshells with every issue, they know it will come back to bite them always. THE REPUBLCANS ARE NOT THE ENEMY


39 posted on 11/08/2012 2:35:29 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

How about grow a pair, cut the bullshit and talk to the American people in real words; not flowerly speeches (”My good friend and colleague from across the aisle”).

Then tell the media to go F*ck themselves and take out a full-page ad w/ the plan.


40 posted on 11/08/2012 2:50:59 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: i_robot73

That’s rational. Lets see, I believe Newt Gingrich took media on during one of the primary debates, he got a standing O, and won South Carolina. The next day, republican voters in Florida called him mean spirited. The RMSM eviscerated him. He was the ONLY true conservative in the group and republicans didn’t like what he said, so there you go.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 3:00:43 PM PST by Toespi
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To: lowbridge
Is anyone at all surprised by this? We really need a second party in this country. The republicrats are killing us.
42 posted on 11/08/2012 4:17:11 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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