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This is emblematic of the challenge: Obama Overwhelmingly Won Asian-American Vote
National Journal ^ | November 8, 2012 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:15 AM PST by only1percent

President Obama carried 73 percent of the Asian vote on Tuesday, continuing a two-decade-long march of Asian-Americans toward the Democratic Party in presidential politics.

Obama improved his performance among Asian-Americans more than among any other ethnic group between 2008 and 2012, according to exit polling. His support in the community jumped 11 percentage points, from 62 percent in 2008.

The 73 percent support that Obama garnered was the highest since national exit polls began tallying the Asian vote, and it marked the fifth straight presidential election in which the Democratic nominee attracted a greater share of the Asian-American vote.

President Clinton won only 31 percent of the Asian-American vote in 1992. His vice president, Al Gore, was the first Democrat to capture a majority of the community, with 54 percent support when Gore ran for president in 2000...

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Asian Americans are better educated, higher income, more likely to be employed in the private sector, and more likely to be married than any other demographic. A Republican Party which is failing to connect with conservative principles with these voters is clearly one which also won't connect with young, prosperous white, Latino or even African American voters. Which means no future.

How can this be fixed?

1 posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:19 AM PST by only1percent
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To: only1percent

As long as the media keeps trumpeting 24/7 that the Republican Party is full of white redneck bigots, good luck with that.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: only1percent
It's all about medical insurance for employees of THEIR small businesses. They think Obama has promised to have the gub'mnt take it over.

The first businessman you see go to prison for resisting the mandates on business is an odds on favorite to be Chinese-American!

3 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: only1percent

I no longer believe the numbers.

It’s the lies from the MSM that kills us.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:18 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: only1percent

Southerners despise northeastern liberals coming to their states to live. The liberal Long Island bluehairs who move to Florida bring their disgusting Democrat tendencies with them.

Place this scenario into the larger context of America. We’ve got Europeans and Asians moving here wanting to get on the gravy train, because their home nations are bankrupt from all of the takers on the rolls. They figure, “Oh, America can do it better. America’s gonna be different.” They vote in those who will give them “stuff.”

It’s happening across the globe with the same results. It’s the same mindset that plagued the world in the past and has simply come full circle to where we’re at and where we’re going again. There’s no escape from it, it just means that we’ll continue to work hard for less money while those who don’t work live relatively comfortable lives. Once the whole house of cards comes crashing down, Greece is the result.

It’s coming here, folks, and it’s going to be bloody, violent, and very nasty.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:57 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: only1percent

red and yellow

black but not White
they are precious in Bo’s sight

ZeeRow loves the Die VerCity of the world


6 posted on 11/08/2012 11:56:17 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: only1percent; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA
>> Asian Americans are better educated, higher income, more likely to be employed in the private sector, and more likely to be married than any other demographic. A Republican Party which is failing to connect <<

While they're probably not large enough to swing elections in most states, that is a big concern. Unlike Hispanics and blacks, you can't say Asians are voting Democrat for "economic reasons", especially since they often surpass white voters when it comes to being successful, educated, stable family, low crime rates, etc.

Interestingly enough, the only Asians I really know around here (southwest suburban Cook County) are Filipinos, and they seem to lean Republican because all the ones I know are over age 40 and very devout church-going Catholics (certainly more so than most of the cafeteria "Catholic" Hispanics I know). But I know they're hardly representative of "Asians" as a whole in America. Why would the RAT party so strongly appeal to people of Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese ancestry? I don't get it.

7 posted on 11/08/2012 11:59:51 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: only1percent

First off, just what is an Asian-American? Asia is a giant, diverse continent with nearly the entire range of humanity.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 12:03:00 PM PST by mkboyce
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To: only1percent
How can this be fixed?

Give them FREE driving lessons.

9 posted on 11/08/2012 12:05:11 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: only1percent

> How can this be fixed?

Romney ropes in Indian American to reach to Asia Americans

Agencies : Washington, Fri Aug 03 2012,

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/romney-ropes-in-indian-american-to-reach-to-asia-americans/983250/#


10 posted on 11/08/2012 12:06:37 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: only1percent
Asians, Blacks, Mexicans and other Latins are Third World with a great resentment of white Western Civilization. Members of the Third World sense that the members of Western Civilization no longer have the capacity to resist the ongoing Third World invasion. Open violence against, looting and raping white Americans is now a function of Third World forbearance.
11 posted on 11/08/2012 12:07:18 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: only1percent

Romney did not address the China issue properly. It put Asians on the defensive.
Today- The ‘manual’ Caruso-Cabrera (CNBC) on China’s new leadership plan mentioned ‘free markets’ numerous times. Interesting changes going on there.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 12:07:34 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: only1percent

They have to score about 50% higher on SAT scores than blacks to get into some colleges. I guess they love the challenge.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 12:08:23 PM PST by MNDude
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To: mkboyce
“First off, just what is an Asian-American? Asia is a giant, diverse continent with nearly the entire range of humanity”

Good question. Technically it includes a sizeable portion of muslims/muslin countries like pakistan, I believe. It is therefore a misleading article, imo, because most think ‘Asians’ is synonymous with ‘Oriental’.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 12:08:42 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: only1percent

We need a breakdown between recently arrived immigrants and those of families who’ve been in the US several generations. You know the MSM won’t report that the more recent arrivals tend to vote heavily for the Dims.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 12:10:37 PM PST by Will88
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To: only1percent
How can this be fixed?

Who cares?

If someone as demonstrably moderate/liberal as Romney can be so effectively demonized as a conservative extremist, any version of "conservativism" palatable to ethnic minorities will be so watered down I wouldn't want it.

There is no realistic chance my political views will have any national executive representation.

Good luck with winning over the ethnics; they can all go screw themselves as far as I'm concerned, and I am going to be letting them know that from now on, unambiguously.

16 posted on 11/08/2012 12:11:54 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: mkboyce
First off, just what is an Asian-American? Asia is a giant, diverse continent with nearly the entire range of humanity.

Absolutely correct. One cannot lump together ethnic Chinese, Filipinos, Hmong, Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Japanese, etc. really for any reason whatsoever much less for purposes of useful political analysis.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 12:12:46 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: GeronL

This bullflop about our need to pander to everyone but the GOP base is being driven by the democrats with the help of their “moderate” GOP toadies.

I’ll be real glad when they figure out that it isn’t going to work and they walk away from FR till the next election.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 12:15:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

me too


19 posted on 11/08/2012 12:16:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mkboyce

“First off, just what is an Asian-American? Asia is a giant, diverse continent with nearly the entire range of humanity.”

I say that because I’m half-Korean (1st Generation, mom followed by grandmother immigrated here in the early 1970’s) and half-white (13th Generation with branches back to both Plymouth and Jamestown) and just like the members of the white side of my family, the Koreans members, including a few half-Korean cousins just like me, all college-educated professionals, split about 60/40 between R and D. So I’d say, that they’re as integrated into mainstream American society as most any other Caucasian ethnic group.

Obviously the same can’t be said for ALL voters of various Asian descended groups. Though one line of reasoning could be that because most East Asians (Koreans, Japanese and Chinese) and Southwest Asians (Indians) are college-educated urban professionals, they typically align with the white urban professionals co-workers who are more D than R.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 12:17:05 PM PST by mkboyce
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To: only1percent

for 1 ..i dont believe it.for the most part conservative.bought off machines?


21 posted on 11/08/2012 12:17:22 PM PST by dalebert
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To: only1percent
continuing a two-decade-long march

That should hurt. Possibly an unfortunate metaphor to their communist experience.

Only thing I can add is that CA contributes the bulk of Asian voters, and they are happy with the status quo. Successful in a state with a good economy for them.

Why would they want change?

22 posted on 11/08/2012 12:17:28 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Indeed. If moderate/liberal/establishment Republicanism is the answer, then both Mitt Romney and Scott Brown should’ve won their races in landslides.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 12:18:01 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: only1percent; Revolting cat!
They thought he was Filipino.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 12:21:50 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BillyBoy

My wife(Asian) does not believe the lies, but I find her buddies believe all the nonsense. I am surprised actually. They are very smart but somehow are too busy to hear anything but the MSM tale.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 12:22:18 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You are so right. I cannot tell you how many times people have been so surprised that I am a Republican. I do not fit the mold...not a bigot..not a redneck..I am a woman...etc. That stereotype is killing us.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 12:26:06 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll believe that the “evangelicals” are the cause of lost elections when the Democrats stop pursuing them.

After the loss in 2004, they formulated an announced strategy to “close the god gap”.

Some of this is achieved by casting their arguments in religious terms (charitable giving and socialism are essentially the same thing in their view). It is also achieved by convincing some religious conservatives to stay home (in 2006 it was the outing of two homosexuals in the GOP and in 2012 it was achieved by pointing out in hushed tones that Romney is a “m-o-r-m-o-n”).


27 posted on 11/08/2012 12:26:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: only1percent

Immigrants built this country.

Now, they are destroying it.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 12:26:24 PM PST by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: only1percent

“Asian”, “Hispanic” and other ethnic block descriptions are inaccurate at best. Former Chinese are NOT like former Filipnos are NOT like former Vietnamese etc, etc, etc . . .
Former Dominicans are NOT like former Mexicans are NOT like former Peruvians etc, etc, etc . . .

Lots of Asians formerly of the Philippines are devoted Americans who are DISGUSTED with those Obama-bots destroying the country.
Those new Americans formerly of China who own small businesses are FURIOUS with those in their neighborhoods who voted for The Won.

Leeches who live off the government voted for more goodies, it’s really that simple.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 12:35:39 PM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: only1percent

Oh, great! “Asians” act just like Jews now.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 12:37:38 PM PST by BlueStateRightist
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To: only1percent

Remember the movie Independence Day?

The aliens traveled from planet to planet, consuming everything available and then moving on to the next planet.

The indigenous population was just in the way.

Illegal immigrants have found they want to come here and consume everything possible that is given to them by liberals. Once they are finished, they will move to the next country (maybe Canada) and start the process over.

This is already happening in Europe from open, illegal immigration.

You can already see the beginnings of what happens when you get in their way......extermination.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 12:40:50 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: muawiyah

Stop insulting them. Stop lumping them in to the same category. Same with hispanics. Yesterday someone said here that if we run Rubio in 2016 we will get the hispanic vote. That person has no idea what he is talking about. Hispanics do not vote for a candidate because they are hispanic. They vote for the person they think is best for this country. I worked for Henry Bonilla for years. His district was huge. From where I live, NW Bexar County, to El Paso. He never, ever got the hispanic vote. It is insulting to say they vote for a hispanic name. They do not. No more than we vote for anglo saxons because they are anglo saxons.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 12:43:29 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I agree. The problem is south of us and it will not go away as long as we serve as a relief valve. If we would clamp down then let the Mexicans turn their energy inward and improve what they have. They are not without resources.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 12:45:59 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: only1percent

It’s a challenge. I’m very active in the Filipino community in the Bay Area. Around here, most are Democrats but nationally perhaps slightly more are Republicans.

One book that needs to receive more attention is “The Chinese in America” by the late Amy Chang. It’s a fascinating history of Chinese immigration to the US and their experiences. What was shocking to me was the terrible abuses and discrimination they experienced from 1850-1950 or so. While it’s not as bad as slavery, it was awful. The thing that struck me is they experienced all of this yet they are now more likely to be better educated and wealthier than white Americans. This blows a hole through the Democrat beliefs that blacks and Hispanics (I’m Hispanic myself) are victims of past racism and that’s why they need special programs and affirmative action. If that’s true, why are the Chinese prospering here? No group appreciates free enterprise as much as the Chinese. We should start there.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 12:50:23 PM PST by Conservative Vet
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To: only1percent
Unfortunately, we have created an Asian identity thru the use of affirmative action and minority business set asides. Despite their wealth and education, we have treated them like a disadvantaged minority.

The Republicans need to expose the Democrats as the real racists and bigots who provide people, including newly arrived immigrants, with special rights and privileges based on race, ethnicity, and gender.

What do Japanese, Chinese, Indians, and Filipinos have in common except being from the same geographic region of the globe? And is there a one drop rule that classifies one as Asian?

We need to push for the elimination of affirmative action and minority business set asides. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as classified by the USG and by 2042 half of the country will be minorities.

35 posted on 11/08/2012 12:54:40 PM PST by kabar
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To: Conservative Vet
What was shocking to me was the terrible abuses and discrimination they experienced from 1850-1950 or so.

Mostly at the hands of the democrats.

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36 posted on 11/08/2012 12:54:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: only1percent

The Marxist media and schools use Skinner psychology to condition and brainwash everyone.

The associations used in tons of books and media is that Republicans are evil and mean and Democrats are good and charitable. No human beings wants to be perceived as “mean”. Emotions rule-—not intellect. Marxism is about destroying the intellect and ruling by urges—so they can easily manipulate you.

Marxists (democrats) control the outlets of information. Republicans don’t. The Alinsky method works-—they control the narrative-—they control the meaning of words—they control ALL perceptions.

Republicans on occasion break through the Matrix-—like with the words-—Pro-Life-—but that is one of the few areas where they have been able to change perceptions. Control the Language and meaning of words——that is the trick of the Marxists.

Look how they have destroyed the meaning of language over the last 100 years-—”liberaL” for instance-—Right and Left-——everything they do is to destroy knowledge and truth and family cohesiveness and unity. No one can debate “ideas” anymore-—there is no unity on definition of words. Their understanding of concepts is all over the map. Each individual has their own definition of Good and Evil not based on the Bible anymore.

Label and divide. Create hate. Sodomy—is “good”????? Think about it-—it is like saying Snow is Black-—and that is the Wundt psychology-—by controlling ideas, Marxists WILL be able to control YOUR worldview. They CAN make people actually believe that sodomizing others is “Good” and God-Given Right”. How sick is that?????? But they have been successful in entire states to corrupt and destroy logic in the masses.

We need to unify with Love and Knowledge of Truth (God).


37 posted on 11/08/2012 12:55:37 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Conservative Vet

I have found much to like and admire in the Chinese people I’ve known. Very hard-working, very family oriented, great respect for education. A lot of values that Conservatives can all embrace.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 12:56:13 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Conservative Vet

I have found much to like and admire in the Chinese people I’ve known. Very hard-working, very family oriented, great respect for education. A lot of values that Conservatives can all embrace.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 12:56:39 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: only1percent
Of course the lumping of Asians, despite the vast array of racial types in Asia, as a single group, is beyond just silly.

The first step in dealing with the "challenge" is to show respect for the differences between peoples--to respect people for who they are, both as individuals & and as representatives of distinct groups.

Nothing is more pernicious than the way the Left has succeeded in lumping or aggregating diverse peoples into single categories. In Leftwing foreign policy adventures--example Dean Rusk in Africa--this has resulted in instances of genocide. It is, if nothing else, totally disrespectful of the sort of pride that does not go before a fall; rather tends to keep people from falling, because they want to measure up to those who went before, and set standards for proper behavior.

No, I repudiate the Left's pursuit of a "Let's all pretend" that quite unique peoples are all interchangeable.

See Putting "Diversity" Into Context.

William Flax

40 posted on 11/08/2012 1:01:55 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: griswold3

Romney did not address the China issue properly. It put Asians on the defensive.
Today- The ‘manual’ Caruso-Cabrera (CNBC) on China’s new leadership plan mentioned ‘free markets’ numerous times. Interesting changes going on there.

100% of my business dealings as well as my partner are in Asia. That being China, Vietnam and Malaysia. Lumping them all together in that article is completely wrong. Vietnamese here are much more Republican leaning and the Chinese Americans this election cycle more Democrat leaning much of it do to Romney’s comments (not that he made them they know he’s right and will tell you so BUT how he made them) My US office is all Chinese and Vietnamese except for me I speak the languages and have residences in both counties. I know these people and knew that Romney blew it the first time he brought up China in a speech.

By no means do I think he was wrong, he just didnt need to do it the way he did. I have taken advantage of the currency exchange for years and profited from it. It has enabled me to provide competive product here than creates 10s of thousands of jobs versus the 1800+ employees I have overseas.

Disagree with me if you want but Griswold3 is on the mark.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 1:03:41 PM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: DallasSun
The Democrats created the artificial category of “Hispanics” in the 1970s as a way to create another class of victims, which they could imbue with special rights and privileges, including affirmative action and minority business set asides. The result is another minority group that votes Democrat. It doesn’t matter that, according to the Census Bureau, 54 percent of Hispanics self-identify themselves as white. The Census Bureau has even created the phony category of “non-Hispanic whites,” which are now 66 percent of the population and will be 50 percent in 2042. The reality is that “whites” will still be more than 70 percent of the population in 2042.

Republicans are deluded if they believe that altering their views on immigration and amnesty will win them more Hispanic votes. Ronald Reagan signed a “one-time” amnesty in 1986, but that did not change the fact that the majority of Hispanics still vote Democrat. The reality is that historically the majority of immigrants, not only Hispanics, vote Democrat. Unless the Republican Party can slow down the immigration numbers, it will be the permanent minority party or become just another wing of the Democrat Party.

Hispanics are a natural constituency for Dems. They have a 50% out of wedlock birthrate and the highest school dropout rates of any group. 57% of immigrant headed households are on at least one major welfare program. Is it any wonder they vote two to one for the Dems?


42 posted on 11/08/2012 1:06:00 PM PST by kabar
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To: savagesusie
Your ideas are sound, and the tone alright for those of us at this forum. But you need to tone down the anger, a bit, and quietly discuss the perceptions behind your conclusions, when you talk to those who are not yet awake to the nightmare being promoted by Academia & a Media that parrots the Leftists in Academia.

I make this point not as an adverse criticism; rather in recognition that you do, in fact, "get it." Because you do understand, you need to preach to others than the choir--that is my point.

William Flax

43 posted on 11/08/2012 1:09:25 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: BillyBoy

“Interestingly enough, the only Asians I really know around here (southwest suburban Cook County) are Filipinos, and they seem to lean Republican”


That *is* interesting; Filipinos are overwhelmingly Democrat in HI (even more so than other Asian groups there) and in NV.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 1:19:54 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: only1percent

This is kind of symptomatic of a more general problem. In the past, Engineering majors were very conservative. Now a lot of them are liberal. Its the underlying K-12 education system.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 1:38:24 PM PST by rbg81
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To: BillyBoy; only1percent; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”While they’re probably not large enough to swing elections in most states, that is a big concern. Unlike Hispanics and blacks, you can’t say Asians are voting Democrat for “economic reasons”, especially since they often surpass white voters when it comes to being successful, educated, stable family, low crime rates, etc.”

I live in Maryland where the last decade or so has been a massive introduction of South Koreans and I have been warning about this for a while. Queens NY was invaded first in the 1990s.

Common myths I am told is that they are Rs because they are hard working, own businesses and go to church. Well they all dont own businesses nor do they all go to church. many go to church.

In fact you can see their young adult kids driving their expensive daddy bought cars, smoking cigarettes and playing rap music. You know they are voting for O.

I find the PRC Chinese immigrants much more conservative than these people.

Let in a mass of immigrants all with a different culture and language and send their kids to public schools and you got a disaster.

Lastly, does the GOP reach out to anyone but white male baby boomers? I am not aware that they try.

46 posted on 11/08/2012 1:39:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: only1percent

You cannot run two white guys again. You must develop and run articulate and telegenic representatives from these demographics on a national ticket.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 1:47:16 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: only1percent

Minority voters voting for a minority candidate. Simple as that. Racial politics trumped policy again this go around.


48 posted on 11/08/2012 1:51:43 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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To: only1percent

RINO File.


49 posted on 11/08/2012 2:17:52 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: AuH2ORepublican
>> That *is* interesting; Filipinos are overwhelmingly Democrat in HI (even more so than other Asian groups there) and in NV. <<

Perhaps the ethnic voters I know aren't reflective of voters nationally, but the only asians I ever see in town are elderly Filipinos who go to my parents church. There's a large group of them, these people are in their 60s, 70s, and 80s, have been married for 40 years, the men served in the military, and they're all "pray the rosary to stop Obamacare and the sin of abortion" types.

On the other hand, most the Hispanics I see around town are second generation Mexican-American, mostly young... teens - 30s. Many of them are single moms with multiple kids by the time they're 30. They think Obamacare is awesome and post on facebook every year about how freakin' wonderful the Chicago gay pride parade is (why any straight Mexican women want to see men prance around in pink tights and kiss each other is beyond me). If they're "devout Catholics" and "social conservatives", I'm the easter bunny.

Just an observation from my local community.

50 posted on 11/08/2012 2:29:20 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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