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Four more years--what is going on here?
Fox News ^ | November 08, 2012 | Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

Posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:27 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

Only in America can a president who inherits a deep recession and whose policies have actually made the effects of that recession worse get re-elected. Only in America can a president who wants the bureaucrats who can’t run the Post Office to micromanage the administration of every American’s health care get re-elected. Only in America can a president who kills Americans overseas who have never been charged or convicted of a crime get re-elected. And only in America can a president who borrowed and spent more than $5 trillion in fewer than four years, plans to repay none of it and promises to borrow another $5 trillion in his second term get re-elected.

What’s going on here?

What is going on is the present-day proof of the truism observed by Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, who rarely agreed on anything in public: When the voters recognize that the public treasury has become a public trough, they will send to Washington not persons who will promote self-reliance and foster an atmosphere of prosperity, but rather those who will give away the most cash and thereby create dependency. This is an attitude that, though present in some localities in the colonial era, was created at the federal level by Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt, magnified by FDR, enhanced by LBJ, and eventually joined in by all modern-day Democrats and most contemporary Republicans.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bho2012; bho44; napolitano; takers
Spot on.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:36 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Spot on and the only outcome is complete fiscal collapse. The only question is what will follow.
2 posted on 11/08/2012 8:17:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: LucianOfSamasota
So many Americans are honestly aware of this theory(truism) and yet still closed their eyes and put our country on the highway to socialism and destruction.
3 posted on 11/08/2012 8:17:52 AM PST by shadeaud (We need to learn to know what our enemies are truly creating)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

It is spot on. It is an excellent summary of what is wrong with Obama, the federal system, and the uni-party.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 8:18:22 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Turns out that White Horse was just a whitewashed jackass.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

If Fox News hasn’t figured ut yet that this election was stolen, the other networks certainly won’t say anything. There is something extremely fishy about how the entire kabuki election was scripted, down to all the liberal polling outfits getting their predictions right to the last percentage mark.

If we don’t ban early voting and absentee voting for federal elections, we will never have an honest election again. I’m for dipping the index finger into indelible ink at the polling place myself.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 8:18:33 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Only in America can a president who should have been hanged for treason be reelected.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 8:18:48 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I was watching some of Fox news and they were talking about Obama and his legacy , about he is going to compromise and work with the GOP to help the country , I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair


7 posted on 11/08/2012 8:23:13 AM PST by molson209
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To: LucianOfSamasota

This election is still beyond comprehension to me...I don’t care what nationality you are, who in their right mind re-elects the worst president in US history? I’m going to answer my own question: The takers now officially outnumber the producers thanks to the democratic whack left party. It’s the only answer. Obama is as dumb as a box of rocks and he was re-elected by the takers...Give me more from people who work. Going Galt sooner than later.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 8:23:24 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Dear Judge Andrew P. Napolitano: The election was STOLEN by the democrat party. I do not know exactly how, but the election was stolen to favor the incumbent.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 8:25:24 AM PST by Ken522
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To: txrefugee
Unprecidented turnout at Republican-heavy polling places. Very low turnout at Democrat-heavy polling places.

Obama votes >10 million less than 2008.

Romney votes >2 million less than McCain in 2008.

I am only an engineer, but it smells like a whole bunch of Romney votes disappeared between the voting machine and the final tally.

Will someone please tell me where I am mistaken?

10 posted on 11/08/2012 8:30:39 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

2008 = cult of personality

2012 = cult of dependency


11 posted on 11/08/2012 8:33:05 AM PST by bushbuddy
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Another Franklinhead Rustabelt financial collapse coming up.

And what follows financial collapses class?....

Anyone?.... Buhler...

12 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:13 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: skeeter

There is no question. What will follow is war, a big global and total one. Which may be exactly what the world needs to get rid of the jihadis and marxists.

Thinning the herd by some 2-5 billion.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:46 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: LucianOfSamasota

It’s also a second term for the first affirmative action president.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:52 AM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters chose European style big gov't.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Apresident who borrowed and spent more than $5 trillion in fewer than four years, plans to repay none of it and promises to borrow another $5 trillion in his second term get re-elected.

Those who voted for him is proof that America has more stupid people than any other country in the world.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 8:36:38 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: skeeter

History tells us what comes next is Socialism, Communism, and Dictatorship, followed by a bloody revolution.
We are currently moving towards total Government and the pace has just accelerated.

http://youtu.be/FmzldNFgD40


16 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:16 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: skeeter
"complete fiscal collapse"

Frog in boiling water! It will happen, but slowly enough to slide on by. Look at post World War 2 Great Britain - they used to rule the world, then they chose Socialism - Great no more..

17 posted on 11/08/2012 8:44:05 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Hardraade
The trigger will be when Iran gets a nuclear weapon; an event this WH is doing everything they can to accomplish.

An election eve story that was completely and utterly ignored, but that has not been denied by the WH, is that Valerie Jarrett has been engaged for several months in secret negotiations with the Iranians over their nuclear program.

How could any responsible executive put this unqualified evil numbskull of a woman in charge of a mission of such grave importance? What could possibly be the purpose other than mischief bordering on treason?

18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:29 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Excellent article that just goes to show how the education system has failed to properly teach the masses, but has succeeded in brainwashing those same masses, thus turning them into zombies who vote Democrat.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:49:12 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mojito
The trigger will be when Iran gets a nuclear weapon; an event this WH is doing everything they can to accomplish.

the good news is that Iran prefers to take out others before they hit the US.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 8:49:58 AM PST by alrea
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To: mojito
What could possibly be the purpose other than mischief bordering on treason?

She's Iranian! That should be the only explanation necessary.

I, for one, am simply preparing my soul for the coming insurrection. I have come to grips with the possibility that I may not live to see 40, and I am strangely comfortable with it if that means that America will come back again thanks to the fighting spirits of others like me.

I am prepared to fight, and I am prepared to shoot back. An insurrection in America will be nothing like what we're seeing in Europe. We will be unwilling to give up our arms and that will play out on the national stage in a very bloody, violent way.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:16 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: molson209
"I was watching some of Fox news..."

What have you done that you feel compelled to punish yourself in such a way?

22 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:45 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: swamprebel
"History tells us what comes next is Socialism, Communism, and Dictatorship, followed by a bloody revolution."

Perhaps the scenario for the TV series "Revolution," isn't too far fetched after all.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:49 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: alrea
"the good news is that Iran prefers to take out others before they hit the US. "

That could just be a diversion to catch us off-guard. Whatever, we can't count on Bambi to protect us from anything. Might as well kiss our asses goodbye right now. It's a given.

24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:56 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I’m going back to Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn. Semi-escapism might help me feel a little better.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 9:21:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: skeeter
Spot on and the only outcome is complete fiscal collapse. The only question is what will follow.

The marxists are working to gain full control of the military before that happens. When the military rank and file are filled with minorities and gays, and the old style officer corps are replaced with aparatchiks, they can bring about the collapse. The left can be the ones to restore order, and then they will feel free to abandon the Constitution and institute the new authoritarian regime. Maybe in the next 4 years, if they can move fast enough, if not, then within the next decade for sure.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 9:23:12 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: molson209

I hope you’ve got good carpeting.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 9:36:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: alrea

I thought their philosophy was “First, the Great Satan, then the Little Satan”.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 9:41:05 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Redleg Duke
I am only an engineer, but it smells like a whole bunch of Romney votes disappeared between the voting machine and the final tally.

This has been bugging me too. I am hesitant to say that a crime was committed but I thought there was a ton more energy with the Republican party this election compared to 2008. On top of that, I lost count of the people I know that switched their vote this year from Obama to the Republican candidate.

It just doesn't make sense.
29 posted on 11/08/2012 11:50:30 AM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: copaliscrossing

Hey, let’s look at the paper votes and see what happened!

In WA state, that’s not possible since it is ALL ABSENTEE.

Vote meet shredder.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 11:53:21 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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To: copaliscrossing

Furthermore, if there is some criminal activity or chicanery going on in the election process, it better get figured out soon.

I have never seen so many folks switch from normally voting Dem to Republican.

If you look at Obummers demeanor during the last month of the campaign, it was almost like he knew how it would end up and he was just marking time. A lot of us interpreted it as “he doesn’t want this job anymore and is dreaming of his new mansion in Hawaii”. Couple that with the polling of independents breaking for Romney and things just don’t add up.

Problem is, how do you prove anything? I agree we need to get away from this early voting and “vote by mail” garbage that has been foisted upon us. However, just like taking things away from the “takers”, taking away these voting “options” will not be a very popular thing. There will need to be some State legislators that will fall on the sword to get this done.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 12:02:09 PM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I’m in WA state also and I remember during an election about 10 years ago a month after a race was certified, there were ballots (around 1500 IIRC) found in the “corner” of the post office. Word was they could have tipped a lot of close local races and the ballots were from a more conservative area.

Back in the day, when you had to show up at a polling place to vote, there seemed to be more engaged and informed people as it took a little effort to find out where you needed to go and how to get there. At least in my neighborhood the voting places were usually right on a bus line so those without vehicles could get there. Now with the mail-in style you get folks that have A LOT of uninformed or disinterested people voting on issues and candidates they don’t know or understand.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 12:09:46 PM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: copaliscrossing

This is a point that really needs to be raised:

Why on earth would we entrust our votes to an entity with a vested interest in never-ending federal subsidies to stay in existence?

I showed up and voted in person. I know, what a concept.

The USPS is heavily unionized, can see the writing on the wall, and have unbelievable pensions and medical benefits at stake on this.

For that matter, our votes are counted by government. They are counted by government in a time where the entire referendum - every single issue - turns on the question of whether we should have more or less government.

Who watches the watchers?


33 posted on 11/08/2012 12:15:06 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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To: rarestia

Frankly, I’m not ready to die for my country anymore. I am willing to die for my family, and if the issue is living free or living as a slave, then I’d rather die.

I hate to remind people of what Adams observed about Europe, but once liberty is gone, it doesn’t come back. You can’t fix it. You have to start over.

The takers want the makers to keep making, and the makers are seeing that there aren’t many alternatives left.

There’s no happy ending here that I can see. It’s why electing republicans doesn’t help any more, and why we got handed Romney.

All that’s left is hanging on to power for an elite class, and the rest of us live with a change in the acceleration toward the one destination. No deceleration is proposed by either side.

What I AM ready for is the day they try to take me away, if it comes. I’ll go down shooting, or the Lord will work a miracle as he did for the Jews enslaved in Egypt. Barring no sign from the Lord, I’ll go down shooting.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 12:21:52 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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To: RinaseaofDs

What you said.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:32 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: RinaseaofDs

We’re on the same page, FRiend. I will not be enslaved. That’s not how man is supposed to live. I, too, fear we’re left with few avenues. I feel like cattle being driven to one destination. The fences are drawing closer to the herd.

Praying for a miracle but preparing my soul for the inevitable, may it come swiftly when it’s upon me.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 12:25:36 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I’m not worried, actually. I thought I’d be a lot more depressed, but then you look at Romney and you think, “We’d have just slowed it down, not reversed the direction.”

If anyone still has any faith in this system of government, the consolation is Obama’s mission is to f*ck it up permanently. I’m convinced of that.

If we are lucky, we get nuked, because without the US, then Israel will be truly by itself in the world. Then the Lord can ride to its rescue, and maybe those stiff-necked Jews will finally recognize God as their King.

As a gentile and a Christian, the idea that you are playing the same role as those guys in the old Star Trek that used to get beamed down to the surface of the planet in the red uniforms is not very positive.

Don’t forget, at the convention, the party in power publicly repudiated Israel. In fact, very much like the scene in the Bible, where Herod offers Barabas or Jesus, and the Jews picked Barabas, not once but twice - Villagroso took TWO votes on that plank of their platform.

I will never forget that moment, ever. I’ve never really seen blasphemy before. I’ve heard people take the Lord’s name in vain, but I’d never seen cultural blasphemy.

I also never really understood God’s thinking on how a nation’s sins redound to their children either. After seeing that, however, I understood it.

I could handle Obama winning, and in fact I’m handling it OK now - there’s opportunity there somewhere on a secular scale - though it may not be for the USA as we know and love it.

What I could not handle was the bullseye painted on our asses as a country before God at that convention. We will pay for that, the same way Israel paid for asking for a King to replace God as their King.

The prayers I pray each day since the election have been along the lines of,

“You were willing to spare Sodom for one good person.

I know I’m not a good person, but I am saved by the Blood of the Lamb, and am Yours just the same.

For that sake, spare the USA, or failing that, deliver Your people out of it before You exact Your just punishment.”

We will pay for abandoning Israel.

Of that, I am metaphysically certain.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 12:48:36 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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