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Food for thought before you capitulate to Jeb 2016...
1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by Qbert
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Mark Levin has given the rallying cry.

MARK LEVIN: We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

We are the alternative. We will resist. We're not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We're not good losers, you better believe we're sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.

2 posted on 11/08/2012 7:12:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Jeb? Please, last picture I saw of him he needs to stay away from the Desert Buffet @ the Corral, if ya know what I'm sayin...

Seriously, I think some of it is Conservative's are just dying off. The WWII. Korean and Vietnam Vet's and like minded family members are being replaced by the Beyonce's and J-Zee hipsters that are all about cool and not their education and what they bring to our nation rather than give-me's...

3 posted on 11/08/2012 7:14:23 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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Jeb's not even American.

But never mind that, Republicans face a demographic shift called DEAD PEOPLE. When registered Republican voters die they must be replaced by new registered Republican voters.

If they are not replaced with a steady, aggressive, voter registration drive among likely Republican voters, we will lose elections.

By my estimation I don't believe there's been a serious Republican interest in registering new Republicans in Fairfax, Arlington and Alexandria in Northern Virginia in over 12 years. That probably knocks our effective voting strength back about 50% below what it could be.

4 posted on 11/08/2012 7:14:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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It’s because Romney wasn’t Reagan or Palin.But the sad truth is that neither Reagan nor Palin would have a prayer today.The demographics and the mores *are* shifting and they’re shifting *fast*.Unlike in 1980 just about half of the nation (not 47% as Romney noted) is riding in the wagon as opposed to helping to push it.This is right out of the Ted Kennedy/Saul Alinsky playbook.We have become a nation of victims and that’s *just* the way the Rats want it.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 7:20:33 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

Check the map! Just because we’re at the mercy of the urban areas, doesn’t mean this is the ‘end’.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 7:21:45 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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Romney got two million less votes than McCain. What can we surmise from that info. Hmmmm. Who was McCain’s running mate? Could that have been a factor? hmmmmm. The fact is why I gladly voted for Romney over Obama, I eagerly voted for McCain because Palin was on the ticket. I love Ryan as well, but I have to think Palin stirred the emotions of Pubbies like no one since Reagan. I’ve got to believe she was the reason McCain outpolled Romney.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:36 AM PST by driftless2
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No won is pointing that. Fewer people voted in this election. The undecided apparently stayed home.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:02 AM PST by zt1053
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This may be true, but the demographics will eventually overcome us.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:17 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Our own companies have caused this.

BRING BACK AMERICAN JOBS.

Think. America has been shedding jobs for almost 30 years now.

Everywhere. But most concerning, increasingly to China.

Nobody talks about it. We are building a huge, dangerous enemy and bankrupting our nation at the same time.

WHILE LOSING VOTES.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 7:29:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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Damn straight. We are right where we were in 2010. Nothing has changed. We are closer to the abyss for sure, but we can try to blunt that in the 2014 mid-terms.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 7:31:23 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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It is not one or the other...there is a demographic change. We also have to get our side to the polls. You are correct in that the difference here could easily have been getting our vote out.

Either way, the demographic change has caused us to just barely scrape by when we do win. 2000 was a popular vote loss, and 2004 was too close considering that we pretty much peaked our GOTV in that cycle. The big difference is that the left now has their machine in place in every swing state to get all these groups to the polls. It is baked in now every presidential cycle.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 7:33:31 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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The evangelicals stayed home (Glenn Beck is saying there were more out but I doubt much), or worse....I ran across some movement that made it into FR to write in “Jesus Christ” where the guy pushing it was hoping for over a million votes.

I don’t want to start anything here, but its true we had two non-”Christian” candidates- 1st time in history ...though one can make the argument freemasons claiming to be “Christian” are as the present two- but I know not if two such freemasons ran against each other.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 7:41:38 AM PST by BonRad
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To: Qbert; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”Why did Romney get a full 2 million fewer votes than McCain did? Why did those voters pull the lever for McCain, but not for Romney? Who were they and where did they go? That is what Republican and conservative strategists need to find out.
Is it possible that Republicans and conservative leaning independents just weren't that wild about...”

If this is true then we have to ask why all the posts here claiming large turnout at Romney rallies meant high R turnout for voting, and all the ‘high turnout at the polls means Republicans are coming out to vote in massive numbers’ ?

There were so many of these posted the last week it appeared to be a very common belief here, especially reading the comments.

So if that theory above holds we are talking massive delusion.
In fact I was on a Maryland specific thread here pooing this belief (high R turnout) and I ruffled some feathers. Rs got slaughtered here in this Dem state.

22 posted on 11/08/2012 7:43:28 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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An important companion piece: The Case of the Missing White Votes
28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:11:31 AM PST by TonyInOhio (I still believe America is worth fighting for.)
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It is precisely because of demographics..that we early ones have screamed about for years and been shouted down

the problem was Romney was too weak a candidate to beat the demographics

it ain't complicated

stupid people continue to believe myths about race and votes

and now they will run to accommodate that

we deserve to collapse..we are simply weak dumbasses

there are stupids right here who think a white guy with a latino wifey (like me once) or a latino last name (Rubio)

wil make squatty Mexicans who have invaded us vote GOP

you guys are idiots...

these squatties want another Indian Socialist/Caudillo to vote for who will give them the crap they came here for

and what is that wardaddy?

they want what we have that they think we (white devils on horseback) once upon a time stole from their historical nirvana where they bowled with human heads and rode the great blade down the temple steps for sport and whatnot..all in hopes of more maize

and they have the numbers along with blacks..who also detest traditional whites and with collaborative whites and Orientals to do just that

take it all with nary a shot fired

our wealth and our liberty

and ninnies here and on FOX and the Weekly Standard

will clamour for someone non white to deliver

the only hope to win would have been maybe..someone to motivate our base

baring that

like Levin said...import the right immigrants, seal borders to the little brown socialists and good whites and others start having more babies

a very long shot and one the LEFT will do everything to thwart

now Obama may just screw up everything so bad we will win by default

but the GOP will go taco...no question

or black beans at a minimu

the most telling fact in all this is that overall...Orientals...achievers with income for the most part...vote against the "white establishment" too...in higher numbers than Jews even

it's not just about the money folks...we have pointed this out forever

it's about pure simply human resentment about being different from the majority host

so let's just cut the head off the host shall we?

29 posted on 11/08/2012 8:14:29 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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The GOP-e is clutching its tattered security blanket and trying not to cry at another ignominious defeat. What they ought to be afraid of is the anger of the conservatives at being hoodwinked one more time into supporting a losing “moderate”, the very familiar Charlie Brown/ Lucy football scenario.

Conservatives should have started planning their alternative to the Republican Party yesterday morning. The decrepit GOP has fallen. and it can’t get up.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:36:24 AM PST by txrefugee
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“Why did Romney get a full 2 million fewer votes than McCain did? Why did those voters pull the lever for McCain, but not for Romney? Who were they and where did they go?”

O.K., I’ll buy that aaalysis as far as looking at the national popular vote total, and national demographics

I am not sure we will be as impressed with what we find, on an electoral college basis - maybe, maybe not

like in the case of Ohio, the “missing” GOP vote is under 15,000; while Obama lost 300K plus, but it only reduced his margin of victory to 50.1% instead of the 2008 figure of 52.3% - a very blue state, with enough blues to spare that even a low turnout does not knock the Dim candidate out

so, yes we need to understand the MAJOR GOP no shows, but in doing so we need to concentrate and WHERE they are

in some places they may have made a difference, in some very blue places maybe not


35 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:54 AM PST by Wuli
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Jeb is a disaster waiting to happen, but demographic changes are a reality. Republicans had everything going for them on the national level, and still lost. The only explanation that makes sense is that “issues” are secondary to group identities. And it’s really been that way throughout most of American history. Unless Republicans figure out a way to attract blacks, Asians, and Latinos, we’re going to have a very hard time winning.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 8:52:53 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Early voting and moyor voter scams
Have to be stopped in all GOP controlled places like FL ,
It’s leads to voter fraud and massive bussing of entire groups for days .
Reagan won before the Introduction of motor voter and early voting !


41 posted on 11/08/2012 9:14:49 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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Food for thought before you capitulate to Jeb 2016...

There will never be a capitulation to Jeb 2016. Period.

45 posted on 11/08/2012 9:25:14 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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