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Triumphant Obama Faces New Foe in ‘Second-Term Curse’
NYT ^

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:08:16 AM PST by Perdogg

Now that President Obama has overcome Mitt Romney, “super PACs” and a sluggish economy, he faces a challenge with deep roots in political history: what historians and commentators call the “second-term curse.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: failhardfailfast
wow, gee I wonder who was talking about this earlier?
1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:08:20 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: SunkenCiv; tatown; LS; fieldmarshaldj

I him nothing but misery.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 7:09:16 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

There is still time for him to leave office a broken, bitter, reviled and detested being —that does give me a small glimmer of hope.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 7:13:26 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Perdogg

Eventually something is going to catch up to Obama...most likely economic. They were somehow able to bolster the ‘recovery’ claim, and ignore the impending disaster to get through the election. Our DC elite package it up as ‘the fiscal cliff’, but whatever they do just will kick the can 6-18 months further down the road. It is clear, we can’t do anything to solve the underlying problems, because the big government statists just got another 2-6 window to do nothing.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 7:15:06 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Perdogg
And like other modern presidents, Mr. Obama must cope with a “snarky” news media, said Mr. Smith, the George Mason University scholar, which glare at a president, magnifying anything that looks like success, or, especially, failure.

??????? Mr. Smith of GMU has been partaking of the Obamazombie Kool-Aid.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 7:15:23 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: Perdogg
From the article:

And while that hurt Roosevelt politically — Mr. Smith said he “shot himself in the foot” — he followed with an even worse decision, cutting federal spending in the belief that the Depression was conquered. That brought on a deep recession. With that decision, Mr. Smith wrote, Roosevelt “shot the country in the foot.”

Thanks to stupid comments like this, this is why we will never get out of this debt bomb.

6 posted on 11/08/2012 7:17:46 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: ilgipper

he’s coming into this with extraordinarily low expectations from half the elctorate to whom he revelaed his incomeptence compared to Romeny

plus he has low favorability except with the Beyonce-Hollywood set and the honey boo boo crowd.

Even the MEdia knows he’s a soros-installed pig wearing lipstick

but really, how could a second term be “less successful” than the past 4 years? An outright Depression?

The only entertainment will be watching him keep reaching into the “Bush/GOP Congress ate my homework” excuse box for another year before no one but NO ONE buys it except the kook fringe


7 posted on 11/08/2012 7:29:16 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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BOzo’s 2nd term curse is that he’s going to be sitting in the seat when the decisions he’s made come home to roost. BOzocare alone is going to be like opening Pandora’s Box. Most people don’t have a clue but they will.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 7:47:29 AM PST by Hayride
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To: Perdogg; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

If Rs play it right.

Remember how Dems took on GWB in 2005 and 2006 after getting their clocks cleaned.

Start with holding out on the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. Make O come up with a deal that his Dems absolutely HATE.

and cut out the closed room sellouts


9 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: Perdogg
*Second* term curse? You means it gets worse?
10 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Perdogg

i hope he fails


11 posted on 11/08/2012 8:02:45 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: riri

As long as the MSM props him up he will be seen as a “great President”—But if they turn on him—he will not last 6 months. He will be destroyed by the leftists not the GOP.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 8:12:38 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Perdogg
he [FDR] followed with an even worse decision, cutting federal spending in the belief that the Depression was conquered. That brought on a deep recession. With that decision, Mr. Smith wrote, Roosevelt “shot the country in the foot.”

No, it wasn't cutting federal spending that sent the economy into another depression, it was the bubble created by the New Deal.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 8:16:08 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Perdogg

The one good thing about Obama getting reelected is that he now has to own the economy, he can’t blame Bush any longer.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 8:17:59 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: sickoflibs

“If Rs play it right.”

That’s where your excellent plans fail, SOL. The GOP IS the Stupid Party.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 8:28:50 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
RE “If Rs play it right.”
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That’s where your excellent plans fail, SOL. The GOP IS the Stupid Party.”

HA-HA, I was wondering if anyone would call me out on that weakness :)

(your point) Sounds too much like me.

16 posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: sickoflibs

It’s sad isn’t it? Sad that the GOP is as ball-less as a box of tooth paste.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:45 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: Perdogg

Obama promises to restore honesty and decency in Washington.

Whoops, wait a minute....


18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:27 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Perdogg

Well..he didn’t win with an agenda. Lot of luck he had (Storm Sandy) and people who like him didn’t want to see him fail. This time, he owns it all. Let’s hope the Gop plays hard ball and hits him at every legal turn they can because he is one corrupt person and set out to make USA , Europe. The media has orchestrated this entire change to America. The media is mostly responsible for covering for his lies and ail of the failures. We just didn’t have the base *totally* on board. It was not conservatism that failed nor is the country flipping liberal. A lot of the people who voted for him are dysfunctional(weird to go against America’s foundation to make America into THEIR version) and want the government monthly checks to the social special rights agenda. Those people are odd and failed civics because they do not understand business. Look at all of the states in which Liberal governors put their loony liberal agenda in place. Personally, we need a revolt for action or to start playing hard ball with the socialists because we have to get those people who have given up to become interested once again.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:41 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Christie at the beach

—>>Well..he didn’t win with an agenda.

That should have read> positive agenda (for an American nation)


20 posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:55 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Perdogg

If he got away with Blame Bush after 4 yrs., he’ll get away with it after 8. Or 16. Or 32. Or 167...


21 posted on 11/08/2012 9:11:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Perdogg
Looks like Zero is not getting a honeymoon.

People seem sullen, hostile.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

22 posted on 11/08/2012 9:21:48 AM PST by what's up
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RE :”It’s sad isn’t it? Sad that the GOP is as ball-less as a box of tooth paste.”

More like brainless. Someone can be the bravest and still shoot themself in the head and lose.

Compare :

McConnnell :” My #1 job is to make O a one term POTUS ”, then O gets re-elected. So why say it?

House Republican :”We will shut down the government, We will not extend the debt limit”, then they do. So why say it?

NOW with Scott Walker:

He buys off the police and firefighters unions splitting them off from teachers union. Divide and conquer

He tells voters : “This money we save will go back into the schools to give your kids a proper education.This is all about them

He schedules a vote on the bargaining while Dems in WI Senate/House are all hiding in Ohio and talking on MSNBC shows each night. Man that got them mad:)

Walker is smart, not like those R party fools in congress.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 9:37:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: sickoflibs

“Walker is smart, not like those R party fools in congress.”

Ok, he plays chess whilst the fools play jacks (I won’t even give the credit of saying ‘checkers’).

We can’t win with an army of one.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 10:24:16 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Didnt Ralph Reed encourage Akin to stay in?

You think that chubby feminist Clair McCaskill who made the deciding vote on O care is going to make him happy?

How's that working Ralph?

25 posted on 11/08/2012 10:39:12 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: sickoflibs

“How’s that working Ralph?”

Not too good, eh? F*cking idiots.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 7:51:22 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: sickoflibs

“How’s that working Ralph?”

Not too good, eh? F*cking idiots.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 7:59:47 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
RE “How’s that working Ralph?(on Akin) ” Not too good, eh? F*cking idiots.”

We both are trapped in hopelessly Dem states. Things went here in MD about as well as they went in MA.

Since 2010 and Angle I been warning about these crackpot conservative candidates going out and saying stupid stuff and sinking their own party and race ship's while the clueless rally behind them.

In fact Hannity who I haven't watched in years woke up and made a very rational segment tonight about this very problem.
He and his FBC guests guests made my long standing point perfectly : “These R primary candidates have to be rejected if they cant answer simple questions about their positions without making fools of themselves

When I saw so many rally behind Angle and others even after they lost I knew these disasters were coming.

28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:26:05 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; Clintonfatigued

Idiots like Angle, Christine O’Donnell, Akin, Mourdock and one more who has achieved sainthood on this site are PRIME EXAMPLES of disasters.

They are gifts that keep giving...to the RATS, that is.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 6:02:58 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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