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It's a 50-50 nation, give or take
yahoo ^ | 11/7/2012 | By CALVIN WOODWARD | Associated Press

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:15:09 AM PST by tobyhill

The election laid bare a dual — and dueling — nation, politically speaking, jaggedly split down the middle on the presidency and torn over much else. It seems you can please only half of the people nearly all of the time.

Americans retained the fractious balance of power in re-electing President Barack Obama, a Republican House and a Democratic Senate, altogether serving as guarantors of the gridlock that voters say they despise. Slender percentages separated winner and loser from battleground to battleground, and people in exit polls said yea and nay in roughly equal measure to some of the big issues of the day.

Democracy doesn't care if you win big, only that you win. Tuesday was a day of decision as firmly as if Obama had run away with the race. Democrats are ebullient and, after a campaign notable for its raw smackdowns, words of conciliation are coming from leaders on both sides, starting with the plea from defeated Republican rival Mitt Romney that his crestfallen supporters pray for the president.

But after the most ideologically polarized election in years, Obama's assertion Wednesday morning that America is "more than a collection of red states and blue states" was more of an aspiration than a snapshot of where the country stands.

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1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:15:14 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Media that divided us and celebrated a campaign that chopped Americs into demographic pieces to win now complains at the results?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:21:21 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: tobyhill

I rememeber how Furious I was when RINORomney got the nod.
I DESPISED the tactics he used to win over other good Conservative candidates.
I got over it. I wanted to defeat O more than I wanted revenge over the RINOS, but....

THREE MILLION OTHERS DID NOT. They stayed home. If the McCAin/Pailin voters had voted IN THE SAME NUMBERS as 2008 R&R would have won in a walk.

Next time—don’t piss off the base.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:25:45 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: Flintlock

I don’t think there was anything Romney could have done except to promise freebies to every minority out there.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:27:52 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill; wardaddy
And it will be even worse in four years, once 10-15 million current illegal aliens get amnesty, and begin to vote welfare Rat for life.

For years we tried to warn naive Kumbaya-conservatives that this would happen, but we were assured that all was well, and the newly-minted Americanos shared our conservative values.

Anybody who disagreed was called a racist.

Well, the results are in, and they speak for themselves. Just look at the voting block breakdown from the election.

Welcome to permanent minority status, as both whites and conservatives. Ronald Reagan's America is gone forever, and it ain't coming back. This is not just a political swing of the pendulum.

Demography is destiny.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 4:31:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

Mittens could have taken the gloves off and hit Obama hard in each debate about Fast and Furious and Benghazi, and set him back on his heels, responding to charges and defending his failed and/or murderous policies.

Instead, he listened to his GOPe advisors, who counseled going the soft old nice-guy Mitt route.

Nice guys finish last, at least when you leave your best weapons on the shelf unused.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 4:34:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigerClaws

And Yahoo is getting an earful about the media’s role in this in the comments.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 4:35:59 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Flintlock
Next time—don’t piss off the base.

You would think that would be the lesson learned. But, mark my words, they will blame the base (just look on FR before and after the election).

8 posted on 11/08/2012 4:38:11 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Travis McGee
Nothing is permanent. And the pendulum will come back, but it will be more painful than ever before.

The reality is the the current system is unsustainable. It will collapse if not corrected. And the Takers will rampage for a while, but will eventually become self reliant or die off.

The farther we get off track, the harder the correction. But the system will in fact correct itself.

9 posted on 11/08/2012 4:43:54 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: tobyhill

Emergency unemployment ends in december for EVERYBODY (even if they just started it)

A lot of worried unemployed people out there. I was hoping that sometime in september or october at the latest Mitt Romney would have offered a plan to extend it out 6 months to get it beyond the would have been lame-duck season and a few months into his Presidency (as a campaign token) with the condition of spending cuts somewhere to offset the cost of the extension.

If the cuts were not acceptable and Harry Ried refused, we may have been looking at a different Senate in January.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 4:44:44 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: 5thGenTexan

on the surface it is about freebies an demographics. But it is fundamentally that God gave this nation what it asked for and deserves. A few may see the trouble but we are all sinners. Israel rejected God and was destroyed. Great Britain rejected God and has been reduced. We are next.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 4:47:26 AM PST by jimfr
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To: 5thGenTexan

When I went went there, there were no comments.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 4:51:18 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
But the system will in fact correct itself.

Did Rome correct itself? The enemy is past the gate; in fact, they are us.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:49 AM PST by luvbach1 (Jail to the Chief!!)
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To: 5thGenTexan

It won’t swing back under the present trends and conditions. Not until the demographic trends reverse, and how is that going to happen? Are whites going to suddenly start outbreeding blacks and latins?

California, for example, will never vote for another conservative republican. Ronald Reagan could not win in his own home state today. That will not change.

The USA is going to grow increasingly dysfunctional, as the welfare rats continue to vote for more welfare, until we have a total collapse.

And even then they won’t “see the light” and turn into market capitalists. They’ll scream and fight and demand a Big Govt statist solution, even if it’s martial law under a Juan Peron type POTUS.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 4:59:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: luvbach1
"Did Rome correct itself?"

Exactly.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: luvbach1
Did Rome correct itself?

Not in Rome, per say, but on a scale of all mankind, yes. In a way, our Republic is in part from the lessons of Rome. Look to the Federalist Papers and see where they studied the past to create our system.

I guess I am optimistic that we will carry forward the lessons of the past. I think that next time (or if we succeed in righting this ship), there will be lessons learned from our history. I believe that our technological advances will allow us to recover quicker.

16 posted on 11/08/2012 5:03:45 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: tobyhill

No..this was our last chance..its now a 60/40 nation and by next election it will be 65/35...crooked voting machines and politician will not give up control.the Che’s piling into this nation will not give up control..just waiting for an all out war on whites instead of all the under the table stuff.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 5:04:49 AM PST by dalebert
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To: tobyhill

Some things never change...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_the_Orders


18 posted on 11/08/2012 5:05:13 AM PST by Adder (Oh crap! NOW what?)
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To: FReepers

             

19 posted on 11/08/2012 5:06:14 AM PST by tomkat ( <shrug>)
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To: tobyhill

Romneyphone just doesn’t have a ring to it.
Besides, he was only going to give them 100 minutes w/ the phone.
Cheapskate.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 5:07:06 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: tomkat

Indeed. Shrugging will hit the reset button faster than anything.

It’s gonna be a huge surprise on the day that the check ISN’T in the mailbox, or if it is, no one will honor it,
and the EBT card is “empty”.

“Who gonna feed mah babies!!!”

uh... you are. That’s the way it should be.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 5:12:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

It’s over. The Fat Lady has sung her song. This is the last election I will participate in. My vote no longer means anything. The 47% will become 60% in four years. Why waste my time. I have a garden to tend to and food to be canned. I have venison to harvest, prepare, and store. I have bartering to do with my neighbors. I will watch the collapse with interest and prepare my defense against the feral humans and parasites. I will survive.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 5:25:59 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: tobyhill

The only explanation for this election that seems to make sense is that the Democrats have corralled ethnic minorities - blacks, Asians, Latinos, even Muslims. And they continually hurl the “racist” label at conservatives. My thinking is that until we start cultivating this groups and getting some converts, we’re going to lose.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 5:29:41 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: tobyhill

We are reaching a tipping point on looters vs. producers, but that is NOT why Romney lost. He lost because Republicans stayed home. We can and should debate the reasons why, and if they were justified in doing so, but that is why he lost. All of this other stuff is ancillary. Remember back when independents were the key to victory? Not if you don’t get your base out there.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 5:40:33 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: 5thGenTexan

Yahoo! had article after article anti-Romney and pro Obama.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:59 AM PST by BipolarBob (I'm joining a Rastafarian cult group and moving to Jamaica.)
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To: mosaicwolf

The whole country will be like Appalachia.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 6:35:10 AM PST by BipolarBob (I'm joining a Rastafarian cult group and moving to Jamaica.)
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To: cdcdawg
No Republican will ever win unless they promise more freebies than the Rats did.
Obama repealed a part of welfare reform for one reason, to win the election, and it worked.
27 posted on 11/08/2012 6:50:54 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: popdonnelly
The problem is that if you say anything about entitlements it becomes “racist” and that is not going to change until America changes. The faster we speed up the crash the sooner we can rebuild.
The entitlement nation is growing faster than the GOP could get converts.
28 posted on 11/08/2012 6:54:50 AM PST by tobyhill
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