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What Conservatives Need To Do To Win Again

Posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:18 PM PST by jda

We're already hearing thoughts on what the GOP needs to do to win again. Here's a view from a non-political, America-living, Christian conservative who votes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; elections; vanity
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To: Regulator

Mark Levin nailed it.

“MARK LEVIN: We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

We are the alternative. We will resist. We’re not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We’re not good losers, you better believe we’re sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we’re called ‘purists.’ Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We’re purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.”

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41 posted on 11/07/2012 7:36:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RamingtonStall
Election fraud is exactly what happened.

What we have to do is prove it.

How coincidental that with the exception of Ensign in Nevada (not really a battleground state) all (R) senators in Battlegrounds (VA, FL, OH, WI) went down even as they did in states carried handily by Romney (IN, MO, ND, MT)? In fact we almost knew the Senate seat loss before we knew the Presidential outcome.

What about those touch screen shennanigans reported as switches from Romney to Obama?

Each of the battlegrounds VA, FL, OH, WI) are solid (R) -- both chambers and the Gov. Most went that way in 2010. (R)'s won down ticket House races.

What I want to know from tech savvy types is this: how does someone hack a voting machine, how does one detect it?

Can some well placed kid hanging around on a cell phone communicating to an embedded chip in the machine watch voters and time his "click" with that of the voter -- regardless how he intended to vote? Is this possible? In these highly (R) states, will an investigation be launched by their SOSs and Atty Generals to determine what happened?

42 posted on 11/07/2012 8:04:09 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: bigbob

First let’s ask and answer the following question:

Do you want American jobs?

Jobs, not imports. Jobs. Until we want jobs, we will not produce a winning party.

American jobs.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 8:07:25 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: loveliberty2

Thanks for that. The only difference between liberals then and now is that the demands are not as openly worshipped, and they are willing to accept incremental victory (and there appear to be more of them).


44 posted on 11/07/2012 8:19:02 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Mustangman

Not until you pry the Obamaphone out of their cold dead hands. If welfare reform, meaning getting a job, offends them so much, what makes you think they would love our other economic ideas.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 8:34:51 PM PST by gusty
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To: jda

Tactically, we need to concentrate our fire when the opposition screws up.

Akin and Mourdock utter unfortunate phrases, the whole country hears about it and generalizes to Republicans. How many times did Americans hear about 47% and Bain Capital?

Was there a concerted effort to expose Benghazi? 46 million on food stamps? 57 states? Solyndra? War Powers Act?

Democrats screw up constantly. It works in their favor because we divide our fire at multiple targets. Anthony Weiner went down because he didn’t screw up enough. Bill Clinton is a bleeping hero because he beat back all of our feeble attacks on multiple targets.

I don’t know how we coordinate this, but we need to pick one target and hammer it until it’s in tatters. Then we move onto the next one.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 8:35:41 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Those who voted for Obama are not interested in jobs. That would mean they would have to roll out of the hammock and actually work and produce something. No my friend, the sad fact is that the majority of the American people do not want a job, they just want free stuff. I truly believe when Romney kept emphasizing that Obama increased the food stamp rolls, and that Romney would create millions of new jobs, he lost the election. It scared the crap out of the new majority, the rainbow coalition


47 posted on 11/07/2012 8:42:18 PM PST by gusty
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To: Tymesup
we need to concentrate our fire when the opposition screws up

Unfortunately, we do concentrate our fire when one of our own screws up.

48 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:40 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Tymesup

The 46 million on food stamps are the ones who won.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:44 PM PST by gusty
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To: jda

What Republicans need to do to win again:

Start deporting illegals.
Build the fence.
Punish employers who hire illegals.
No more anchor babies.
No more welfare, food stamps, etc., for illegals.
A moratorium on legal immigration.
Conservatives start having more babies.

Then, in 20 years or so, we can get elected again. But we all know none of this is going to happen, ever. There’s been so much immigration in the past 30 years, we are getting outnumbered and cannot “offend” them.

So...it’s over.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:26 PM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Mustangman

“The demographics of this country are changing and in order to build a conservative majority we absolutely have to make minorities feel comfortable in this party.”

I’ve listened to this tripe time and time and time and time and time and time (had enough yet?) again.
It doesn’t work.

After four years of ignoring the plight of black Americans, 93% voted for Obama, again.

He won 71% of the Hispanic vote the second time around.

He won 73% of “the Asian vote”. Heck, Asians (who presumably work hard and are “conservative”) voted for the ‘rats at a higher percentage than did Hispanics!

The traditional brand of “conservatism, American-style” by its very design seems to appeal mostly to one ethnic/racial demographic group. To others, not so much, or hardly at all.

You cannot change what conservatism is. If you try to bend it into some concoction that is designed to appeal to the Hispanic/Asian ethnic groups, it isn’t going to be “conservatism” any longer. And by doing so, it would lose the support of that single group that believes in it today.

A large and growing proportion of the American population just doesn’t seem interested in “conservatism” anymore.

A hard truth to be sure, but just because the truth may be hard makes it no less true.

To believe that you’re going to be able to convert non-Euros to traditional conservatism is nothing more than believing that some undefinable magic solution is going to appear out of nowhere to save our side.

It’s not.


51 posted on 11/07/2012 8:58:15 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: CriticalJ

“The current version of the GOP is toast unless the electoral college in all states switch to the model of Maine and Nebraska...”

A VERY wise and astute observation.

I’ve posted about this before, particularly regarding Texas.

Don’t see it happening, though...


52 posted on 11/07/2012 9:00:51 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

Interesting post. What I was thinking all day. Any white person who voted for Obama was voting for their own extinction.


53 posted on 11/07/2012 9:11:15 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: jda

I’ll tell you what we need to do - we need to sling mud by the bucketful.

We don’t know who the Dem nominee will be in 2016 but I say today that he/she is a pedophile who never payed taxes and beat his/her spouse many times, almost to death; he/she is a drunkard and a coke head; he/she is on the pipe and hates puppies and kittys; an atheist, certainly a communist, and beyond all doubt a homosexual, and in a bad way, not a charming one; he/she is a thief, a liar and a fake, phony fraud.

If we sling mud and destroy the MSM and stop all immigration we might win, but I don’t see it happening and today I really think our country is dead.


54 posted on 11/07/2012 11:10:46 PM PST by jocon307
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