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Conservatives lambast Romney, vow to take over Republican Party
The Hill ^

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:46:49 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Conservatives lambast Romney, vow to take over Republican Party By Erik Wasson - 11/07/12 02:43 PM ET

Conservative leaders on Wednesday lashed out at Mitt Romney, saying his attempts to paint himself as a centrist and hide his principles cost him the presidency.

They vowed to wage a war to put the Tea Party in charge of the Republican Party by the time it nominates its next presidential candidate.

“The battle to take over the Republican Party begins today and the failed Republican leadership should resign,” said Richard Viguerie, a top activist and chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.

He said the lesson on Romney’s loss to President Obama on Tuesday is that the GOP must “never again” nominate a “a big government established conservative for president.”

Jenny Beth Martin of Tea Party Patriots said Romney failed to make the kind of strong case for conservatism that would have won the election.

She described Romney as a “weak, moderate candidate hand-picked by the country club elite Republican establishment.”

“They didn’t see a clear distinction so they went with what they know,” she said of voters.

“It should have been a landslide if Romney had run as a true conservative,” said Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center.

“Romney took all the right stances, no question. The problem was not communicating them on the national stage with President Obama,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, the head of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List.

Martin argued that there was no repudiation of the Tea Party by the electorate because Tea Party values were not firmly articulated.

“This is not the death of the Tea Party,” Martin said.

“Tea Partiers will take over the Republican party in the next four years,” Viguerie said.

In the meantime, conservatives will work to ensure that congressional Republicans do not compromise their principles in fiscal talks with Obama, he said.

“Conservatives and Tea Partiers are just sick and tired of Republican leaders compromising on the state and national level with Democrats that grow the size of government,” Viguerie said. “We are going to hold their feet to the fire.”

Bozell said conservative groups need to up their financial pressure on GOP lawmakers unless they agree to a series of demands, including again vowing to approve of no tax increases for anyone.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections

1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:46:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

right on....


2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:50:54 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Sub-Driver

a “weak, moderate candidate hand-picked by the country club elite Republican establishment.”

“They didn’t see a clear distinction so they went with what they know,” she said of voters.

+1


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:52:44 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Romney was a fine candidate. He worked as hard as any candidate ever has and would have been a fine president. It is our own parties fault that he lost, republicans did not show up and vote, period


4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:53:03 PM PST by 12chachacha
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To: ptsal

“The battle to take over the Republican Party begins today and the failed Republican leadership should resign,”

Every sorry last one of them.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 4:53:51 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I suggest we get rid of Boehner. The House is the one thing standing in the way of banana republic status. He is weak. It’s only a matter of time befopre he rolls over.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 5:02:18 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: 12chachacha

I concur. I hated the idea of Romney as the nominee, but the more I saw of Romney the more I liked and thought he could have been a great president. He ran as good of campaign as possible. Could he have done things better? Maybe around the margins, but on balance it was not Romney’s fault.

I pu the blame on the corrupt MSM. Had they not eagerly and consistently tipped the scales in Obama’s favor Romney would have won - easily.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 5:05:58 PM PST by Obadiah (Americans lusted for Obama. Give them Obama! Everything he asks for.)
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To: Obadiah

Message and strategy for the last three months, but that’s mostly campaign team. Romney performed extraordinarily well in the final 30 days. I gained a lot of respect.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:14 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Obadiah
I concur. I hated the idea of Romney as the nominee, but the more I saw of Romney the more I liked and thought he could have been a great president. He ran as good of campaign as possible. Could he have done things better? Maybe around the margins, but on balance it was not Romney’s fault.

I agree. I said many times before the primaries that I would never vote for him. But once it was settled, I have to say he grew on me. I also think he would have been a good president.

The left didn't attack him for being too moderate, they attacked him for being too much like us.

I put the blame on the corrupt MSM. Had they not eagerly and consistently tipped the scales in Obama’s favor Romney would have won - easily.

I agree. He lost in part due to an openly corrupt media, because possibly some voters decided to sit it out, because of some voter fraud I'm convinced, and because almost half of America (arguably more than half) want to believe what the Left is peddling.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 5:15:56 PM PST by marron
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To: Sub-Driver

Actually, I don’t think Romney was bad, but Obama waged one of the most vile and evil campaigns in modern history.

It was the War on Women, Big Bird, the class warfare, the birth control and abortion BS, the Bain Capital slurs, the 47% ads, and 6 months of negative advertising.

Honestly, maybe Romney’s problem was that he didn’t trust that the gutter politics would work.

I thought the American people were smarter than that, so both Romney and I got it wrong.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 5:16:08 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Sub-Driver
Take over the GOP????????? First of all there aren't ENOUGH of us!! Second of all, the GOP is DOA! They 'ain't' gonna ever win another contest. They're dead. Third of all, what are you going to do with the dead RINO bodies???? They stink now! Just wait until they're dead!!!!!

You guys are living in a fantasy world! Forget politics. Start enjoying your life. It's going to be a short bumpy ride to the cemetery. Golf, booze and sex pal! This country is over! El finite!

11 posted on 11/07/2012 5:16:11 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: 12chachacha

Romney was a fine candidate. He worked as hard as any candidate ever has and would have been a fine president. It is our own parties fault that he lost, republicans did not show up and vote, period

I agree. He needed to get more aggressive. I’m sure he was advised against it. Thank Christie fo his “slobbering love affair” with Obama. I hear our Majority Leader wants to get rid of the filibuster rule—at least until the Sems get a fillibuster-proof congress.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 5:17:19 PM PST by RightLady (Take out the trash Nov 6th)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
I suggest we get rid of Boehner. The House is the one thing standing in the way of banana republic status. He is weak. It’s only a matter of time before he rolls over.

I agree. He has always struck me as a weak sister.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 5:17:30 PM PST by marron
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To: trappedincanuckistan

He already rolled pal,...


14 posted on 11/07/2012 5:17:55 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Sub-Driver
These people are morons. Every last one of them.

I heard the same thing in CA for over a decade and the CA GOP is now officially irrelevant. It controls not a single statewide office and the Democrats have just achieved supermajorities in both houses of the legislature.

These know-nothing commenters want to follow that model into oblivion on the national level. They are insane and must be opposed as fiercely as the Democrats if not more so because if they are not stopped from destroying the Republican Party there will be no opposition to national Democrats in our lifetime.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 5:19:09 PM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate voter Freepers for making him president til 2017!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Conservatives are upset, huh? What? All 6 of them(outside FR).


16 posted on 11/07/2012 5:20:42 PM PST by deadrock
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very old Richard Viguerie: a veteran of the Reagan revolution.
And a very smart guy.

But Richard, which one these failed candidates was your creation yesterday? Didja get any winners? Anywhere?

Nobody? And now ya wanna take over?


17 posted on 11/07/2012 5:21:31 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: Sub-Driver
“This is not the death of the Tea Party,” Martin said. “Tea Partiers will take over the Republican party in the next four years,” Viguerie said.

We fell in line like good soldiers, and now its time to either take control or take a hike.

I have said several times that, if Romney lost against the worst president in my lifetime, the GOP would split.

I think another tea rebellion is in the offing.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 5:22:34 PM PST by marron
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To: newzjunkey

What is ironic about your post is that these “morons” are some of the people who actually did destroy the California Republican Party.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 5:22:45 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Sub-Driver

Can they at least be politically savvy Conservatives?


20 posted on 11/07/2012 5:23:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Doc Savage

That didn’t take long :)


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:21 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Sub-Driver

If it’s anything like this joint there will be a dozen different conservative groups trying to take over the GOP, each shrieking that the others are all RINO’s and whaling away at each other until they collapse of exhaustion.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:27 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Sub-Driver
Conservative leaders on Wednesday lashed out at Mitt Romney, saying his attempts to paint himself as a centrist and hide his principles cost him the presidency.

I got news for them. Those WERE his principles.

23 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:51 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah...I guess Romney won the primary because Newt, Santorum, Bachmann and Perry were all so much less conservative than he.

The ideas in this article make little sense.

We’re going to hear a lot of crap from all sides in the coming weeks. For crying out loud, I heard on the radio news this afternoon that “people are already begging Chris Christie to run for President in 2016.” Yeah...I just bet they are.

Then there’s a whole contingent blaming conservative social values. And there’s yet another contingent blaming it on Republicans alienating Hispanics.

Right now it’s all crap, sound and fury signifying nothing. I think it will be awhile before we truly understand how/why this happened. In the meantime, people are vulnerable to having their emotions manipulated. It’s a perfect time to be very careful what we give credence to.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 5:26:12 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

The Democrats didn’t want the House, now they have the perfect scapegoat for all of Obama’s failings.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Obadiah

I think Romney is a likeable guy, from my perspective. I ultimately had no problem voting for him. However, he certainly didn’t inspire people in a way that got them fired up and excited. If he had, we would not have lost 3 million voters from 2008.

The problem with Romney was that on nearly every major issue that could have been a wedge that Republicans could drive between the Democrats and Independents, it was almost impossible to argue with a straight face that Romney was markedly different than Obama. Obamacare was chief among those issues, but the same thing applied for gun control, tax reform, education policy, judicial appointments, etc. There was always something there in the background that was a black eye for Mitt. Sure, Romney has publicly claimed to change over the years, and maybe many conservatives were willing to take a chance on him, but Independents (in my opinion) saw that as dishonesty on his part. I also think that the Bain Capital attacks were extremely destructive. In my opinion, Romney should have spent most of his advertising dollars on positive message ads with him talking directly to the camera explaining the truth about Bain, the truth about his taxes, the truth about his plans, etc. Because he didn’t do that, he gave the impression that a lot of that stuff might be true (and maybe a lot of it was). I think that most of the independent voters ultimately would rather dance with the devil they know than the one they have questions about, and that’s why I think Obama won.

I know that this is unpopular among some here, but I truly think that if Sarah Palin had run, we’d be celebrating today. She had baggage, sure, but she would have made a forceful case from the beginning of the primaries right through election day, and there could not be a candidate who could draw a sharper contrast with Obama on key issues. I know one thing - I’d rather have climbed that hill with her leading the way and lost than than to have had things end up the way they did.

I wish Romney well. He’s a fine man and I admire his love of his country. Don’t get me started on that fat slob Chris Christie.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:29 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: radpolis

Romney didn’t need gutter politics. He needed to tell the stark truth to show the evidence of the altered birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, things in 0bamacare like how the dhimittudes work on taxes, 0bama campaigning with 0dinga in ‘07, with the murdering of Christians and buring of Christian churches, and on and on and on. But, no, we don’t want to be birthers, and demonstrate the truth on all his other bizarre problems, do we? Well, here we are with 0bamacare and 3 liberals supremes staring us in the face.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:29 PM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: Jim Robinson; SLB

Folks are starting to wake up. Too bad they didn’t do so about ten months ago. (sigh)


28 posted on 11/07/2012 5:28:49 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Sub-Driver

What was the final vote count, and percentages? I worked late on Tuesday and didn’t watch ANY of the election wrap up. When I started reading on FR that the networks were calling the election for Obama, I just got disgusted and went to bed.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 5:29:42 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Sub-Driver

Why bother? The Republican brand looks moribund.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:40 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Sub-Driver

MiTT had more than a couple chances to slam one over the fence.. as did quite a few Senate candidates, but NOOooo.. sometimes being polite and forthright is not the best strategy.. they should have brought their shovels.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 5:33:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: radpolis
Honestly, maybe Romney’s problem was that he didn’t trust that the gutter politics would work.
I thought the American people were smarter than that, so both Romney and I got it wrong.

I'm with you on both counts. Frankly I'm disgusted that so many Americans thought Obama did well enough in his first term to deserve a second. But as a friend noted on her Facebook page, we'll finally get the answer to the 32 year old question of what would a second Carter term look have looked like.

32 posted on 11/07/2012 5:34:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t think any of the other Republican primary candidates could have done what Romney did to Obama during that first debate.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:23 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah, that will certainly chip into the 75% Latino and 92+% black vote. We are totally f’d if we go that route.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:58 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Sub-Driver
Romney was a fine candidate, and he did a lot of things very well (nobody does everything perfectly).

I suspect that the election was lost because of two very icky and very dark factors...

1. Vote fraud and vote suppression. Why, for example, were deployed military not given every chance to vote? (One hopes that this question gets directed to Obama's chum, Panetta). One suspects that Justice will ignore every valid claim (remember the New Black Panther Party, here).

and

2. Constant, continuous, continual, and perpetual pot-banging support from the major "news" and entertainment media. From (I suspect) compromised debate questions to non-stop Obama puff pieces, and equally non-stop Romney hit pieces. For pity sake, there are voting citizens (millions of them) who have not heard of Mister Obama's (again, one suspects) impeachment-worthy handling of Benghazi, and it's aftermath, among dozens of other spiked stories.

.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 5:46:04 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Trod Upon
The Republican brand looked ever more moribund in 1964 and in 1974 and bounced back. Of course that was before Teddy's immigration law changed the demographics of the electorate.

I was hoping for a strong conservative who could win, but after Perry fizzled (at least Romney could remember five points) I couldn't see any of the remaining conservative candidates having a real chance. We saw how much mudslinging they did against Romney, totally bogus. What would they have done to Newt? Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Pawlenty...they would have had a more fired-up base (except maybe Pawlenty) but would have done worse with the independent voters than Romney did. Only Cain has a record of achievement to put up alongside Romney's and he dropped out because he couldn't answer the allegations about his private life...plus he had no experience in electoral politics.

With a halfway honest media, or if Christie hadn't stabbed him in the back, Romney might have pulled it off. If he made any mistakes it was from being too cautious (Benghazi especially--Victor Davis Hanson was lamenting that a few days ago). But the media that buried his being endorsed by Lech Walesa and turned his foreign trip into a series of supposed gaffes was ready to pounce on anything he said about Benghazi to protect the Dear Leader.

I think the closest analogy in American history to this election would be if Aaron Burr had been chosen in 1801 over Jefferson.

36 posted on 11/07/2012 5:52:44 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ptsal

Honestly real conservatives either subconsciously, or clearly, understand the catastrophic events that Obama’s re-election mean. It is part of God’s plan, the same way Judas was necessary.

With Jesus, we understand that God is love, and the hurt comes from betraying of His love. Obama represents everything that opposes God, and that to many of us means days of tribulation, or “End Times” as we know it. Which although very hard, is okay because we know who wins. Look for the end of Israel, attacks on Catholics, poverty, sickness, deception, etc. If they don’t see it now, just wait. I suggest we pray, beg for forgiveness, and ask for everything we need from our real King, and He will give it to us with love. We need to do a better job at evangelizing God’s love than the “global Warming” folks do at pretending that humanity is in control. Christians aren’t supposed to accept, we are supposed to love, like He loves us.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 5:53:08 PM PST by mgist
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To: Sub-Driver
Conservatives face an uphill, and I dare say nearly impossible, battle. The GOP elite aren't going anywhere. Not after Dole, not after McCain, not now (heck, not after Dubya, either!). Yes, they need to be purged. Yes, they are milquetoasts when it comes to campaigning against the tactics of today's Democrats, but expecting them to walk away voluntarily is a pipe dream.

Unless we get rid of open primaries, Dems will cross-over and negatively influence the nomination process (i.e., will support a vulnerable RINO).

The MSM will either totally ignore the true Conservative candidate(s), or, if said candidate(s) should gain some traction, will demonize them with their coverage.

38 posted on 11/07/2012 6:00:32 PM PST by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: Sub-Driver

honestly, I am damned sick of these circular firing squad ‘leaders.’ Can’t they just keep their mouths shut for one day?

Romney wasn’t my first choice, but by election time he’d won my respect for the way he conducted himself and his campaign. He was up against the Chicago Machine.

No Republican or conservative is going to win office without a coalition, there just aren’t enough ‘pure’ conservatives. The Tea Party is one thing, the Religious Right is another. There are fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and on and on. And none seems to think any of the others are “real” conservatives.

Conservative “leaders” will have to learn to stand together or hang separately. Our Founders knew that, it’s past time their successors learned that lesson.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 6:00:34 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: RightFighter
..."Romney should have spent most of his advertising dollars on positive message ads with him talking directly to the camera explaining the truth about Bain, the truth about his taxes, the truth about his plans, etc. Because he didn’t do that,...

Romney didn't do that because he couldn't do that. He could only begin to respond to the previous 3 months of personal attacks by Obama in Ohio after the Republican convention. After 3 months of constant carpet bombing by Obama, Romney was permanently damaged - (see exit poll data). A Republican Super PAC could respond, but not Romney. Karl, you need to answer for this.

Additionally, Obama/Axelrod had nearly 2 years to put together over 200,000 democrat precinct election workers. After the Republicans chose Romney, he had about 4 months to get organized nationally and only had 25,000 dedicated precinct workers. No army ever won outnumbered 10:1.

How the Obama workers got paid for hustling around their precinct for 2 years is another subject that needs investigation.

The other question that needs to be answered is what happened to the 3 million McCain voters that didn't show up for Romney. Let me guess - 3 million citizens would rather allow Obama another 4 years as President than vote for a MORMON.

40 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:08 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: marron

It will be difficult to institutionalize the tea party movement; an oxymoron even.

TP was successful because it was a massive truly grassroots uprising. Its strength came in large measure because it focused on one issue only: taxing to spend on big government.

It didn’t matter where you were on other issues, only that you agreed on the one big one. It had no leaders and needed none.

Now, imagine that in a party caucus. Imagine what happens when social issues are addressed and religious issues and foreign policy and defense issues.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:10 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: marron
I have said several times that, if Romney lost against the worst president in my lifetime, the GOP would split.

Yours is my take as well...I said that if the GOP cannot beat the worst president in history, an utter failure, why would any GOP candidate win? Obama is the most corrupt, lying, incompetent piece of crap in history and quite frankly Romney was a much better candidate than I thought he would be. If the GOP wasn't able to pull this one off, as a political party the GOP is dead.

I intend to register as an independent next week...I will never support the "party" again...it is a losing effort.

42 posted on 11/07/2012 6:08:37 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Sub-Driver
A lot of Conservatives didn't want Romney or Obama, and want to begin a decisive revolutionary sized movement to save this nation or lose it instead of just changing the speed we travel in the wrong direction. Romney would have just bought a little time, and might have stopped the rise in support we have needed to attempt to salvage what we can that this nation was built on. Obama just stepped it up to a new level, and that's finally woke up those in the dark. It's time for us to save this nation, or let it be destroyed, because anything else is just temporary. It's time to bring this to a conclusion one way or another.
43 posted on 11/07/2012 6:11:06 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (We must start working outside the broken, corrupt, and unconstitutional system to save this nation.)
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To: 12chachacha

“It is our own parties fault that he lost, republicans did not show up and vote, period”

Well, you nominate a moderate candidate, and they cannot generate enthusiasm. It has always been that way, and it will always be that way. The American electorate is not Goldilocks, they don’t get excited over lukewarm porridge.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 6:35:27 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Obadiah

Yes, you can blame the media, but that is pointless. Any candidate we could nominate has to get around the media to win. So, any candidate who can’t do that is not a good candidate for us to run, since they can’t do the bare minimum it would take to win.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 6:41:29 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: EDINVA

The tea party is mostly made up of social conservatives, the “religious right” voters, who are also economic conservatives, so there aren’t as many groups as you think.

Basically there are actual conservatives, who are social, economic, and defense conservatives, and then the social liberals, who are democrats that like the economics of conservatives.

Basically two groups, the Reagan wing versus the Romney/Rove wing.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 6:53:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: mgist

Well, there’s one thing to take away from this debacle for us Christians, end times or no. When everything you have been putting your hope in fails you, then maybe it’s God’s way of telling you that you should just be putting your hope in Him. He’s been saying that all along, but sometimes we can lose sight of that.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 7:02:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: lonevoice

Excellent post!


48 posted on 11/07/2012 7:47:31 PM PST by stilloftyhenight
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To: Verginius Rufus

Interesting perspective, and you are certainly correct re: 64 and 74. I guess I’m just, to put it mildly, less than sanguine about the future implications of the demographic and cultural changes we are beset with. I fear we are well down Hayek’s road, driven along by masses who are not only incapable of seeing where it leads, but utterly uninterested as long as the right inducements are offered. But then I have a knack for seeing the underbelly, so maybe there’s some hope.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 7:51:20 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: stilloftyhenight

danke :-)


50 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:59 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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