Posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:56 PM PST by drewh
A group Leaders of the Tea Party News Network and TheTeaParty.net offered an unflinching assessment of Election Day results. Todd Cefaratti, editor of the Tea Party News Network said, "We're disappointed in Governor Romney's loss. But this goes to the heart of what we have been saying all along. Bob Dole didn't win. John McCain didn't win. And now Mitt Romney hasn't won. The lesson the GOP and Americans need to learn is that weak-kneed Republicans do not get elected. Conservatives do."
"The Tea Party has not yet begun to fight. It's time for a wholesale reassessment of the D.C. establishment politicians and party grandees who have no commitment or courage to reduce the size of government. We now have another four years ahead of us with Barack Obama leading the charge against liberty," TPNN News Director Scottie Hughes said. "There were some bright spots tonight from Ted Cruz to Jeff Flake, to a decisive win in the U.S. House where Tea Partiers have a mandate to stand against Obama's big government second-term agenda. "
"I eagerly await the day the GOP establishment figures out that the 'safe' candidates are not getting the job done," stated Hughes. "The GOP needs to adhere to stricter ideological purity and put forth candidates that represent a significant difference in viewpoint from the Democrats that are creating devastating policies for Americans. The Republican Party has been shoving 'their' candidate down the throats of conservatives for years, and it's not working. It's time for them to wake up."
Cefaratti said, "We are disappointed tonight, but tomorrow morning the work begins. We will search every corner of this country for strong conservatives, not wishy-washy moderates. There's a change coming to our national politics, and the Tea Party will be on the frontlines waging this battle."
I rarely heard a peep out of the Tea Party the past 6 months. Didn’t hear much from any of the other candidates that got beat in the primary . . . none of them really got out there and supported Romney, Newt with his wife’s book and a few appearances on shows, but the rest, not much.
I’m not disappointed with Romney. I think he did an excellent job and I am sure he was in the lead the entire way. The voter fraud was just too overwhelming. Romney actually exceeded my expectations.
Damn straight! Akin/Mourdock-2016
The problem seems to be fraud. There’s no way Obamao won that election. There is just no sense that he was going to be even close here in New Hampshire. I just don’t believe it.
There is fraud not just at the individual level. I believe there is fraud systematically built into the systems in the states he won. We had voter ID in effect here in New Hampshire. Yet, we lost the presidential, governor, senate, and rep races by large margins.
There is just no way that is possible. We have a Republican super majority in the house and a majority in the senate.
The results are not believable.
I don’t like whiney finger pointing. I don’t accept it from the Engineers who report to me and I won’t accept it from the politicos.
Ronald Reagan watched as Nixon (the most Liberal president ever) and Ford tried to be Democrat light. No whiney finger pointing.
He fixed the problem.
Romney wasn’t a visionary conservative in the style of Reagan. I hate to say it, but George Will nailed it months ago when he predicted Romney would run on “competence” and lose. Plenty of Freepers predicted this outcome back in the Spring.
Romney did the best he could, but he was/is Romney. He couldn’t beat McCain in 2008, and couldn’t even match his vote totals in the general.
Gee...I thought it was primarily liberals who exercised that tendency to blame and whine. Ohhh well....
We can blame our situation on the Establishment, on the nominee, on the storm, on several things...but the MAIN reason we are in this mess is because of all of our choices.
“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” ... Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Until we come to the place of GREAT repentance on the part of the majority of this nation, we will see an increasingly worse scenario. The CHANGE that is really needed is SPIRITUAL. History teaches this. The Sacred Scriptures teach this. Why do we have to learn this the hard way?
Go here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956318/posts
The Tea Party was probably trying to be team player and keep their criticisms low key, figuring it was better to attack Obama than Romney after the conventions.
Well, Romney ran an extremely timid campaign. Read the article at the above link.
Nonsense. The tea party candidates didn’t have a much better night than Romney did. We won Texas Senate. Lost several other races. Allen West is on the ropes, and probably out.
The fact is, we lost because we are not the majority at the moment. The problem isn’t Romney, or Christie, or Johnson, or Obama, or tactics, or speeches, or debates, or the establishment vs. the tea party. The problem is the electorate.
Romney was a fine candidate, and he ran a good campaign. He wasn’t McCain or Dole. I might’ve made a couple of different decisions than him ... might’ve attacked harder on some things. I’m not confident that him doing things my way would’ve made a difference.
This is not an unrecoverable problem ... but we have to acknowledge that the American people were not hoodwinked. They chose Obama, and they’ll get the government they deserve. It may be a very long four years — but I wouldn’t rather spend it anywhere else on earth.
So ... how do we win them back?
SnakeDoc
The Tea Party was taken over by socon extremists and idiots like Akin and Murdouch.
I was sitting here listening to Mark Levin and he made a good point. What does the Republican party stand for anymore? It stands for getting their butts elected. That is all. You have people on Fox saying that we should drop our tough stance on abortion so that we can get a Republican elected as president “next time”. That isn’t the problem you idiots! The Conservative always wins! At least they do when the RNC is forced to back them. Stop watering down our values to get elected it’s that simple! It doesn’t get people elected. They gave that fat dope Christie centerstage and shunned Palin at the RNC convention. All Christie did was talk about himself and than proceeds to stab Romney in the back with hurricane Sandy. The Republican establishment refuses to learn!
I am sure there was some voter fraud maybe a lot. I don’t think that is the main reason we lost tho.
Some, even in the media have pointed out the difference was because of a change in demographics.
With virtually open borders, this country is no longer the one I grew up in and it is only going to get worse. Part of the problem is most Republican presidents have been as bad as the Democrats or nearly so.
I think it may be possible that conservatives never win another national election.
There are so many Somalians, Mexicans, Haitians, etc. added to those already here that they can and will swing any election.
No, the GOP was taken over by leftwing squishes.
Bingo, we have a winner! My thoughts exactly!
I think Romney was about the best we had. I don't see any other candidate's doing as well. I also do not believe the entire election was lost because of “Voter Fraud” I am sure there was some hanky panky going on, but not that many votes. We did not turn out our base or some of our base left us.... I think we lost because of several factors; Young voters, women, and minorities. Bottom line, you can't ignore those three groups and win.....
I have nothing against the Tea Party or the Tea Party movement, but many of the candidates they supported and put forward were either idiots or had foot in mouth disease.
Over-all they have done more good than harm, because we got the House back, but they ain’t batting a thousand.
Ted Cruz is a Tea Partier I can support.
If the Tea Party can get a farm league with smart guys like that across the country, then we will be OK.
But Monday Morning Quarterbacking Romney is futile at this point.
There are no TEA Party “Leaders”.
You are correct. Bleeding heart liberals just don’t seem to get that after bleeding enough the host will die. The system as it is can only go on so far and then it will come crashing down. When there are no more millionaires to blame they will come for the middle class. If you own a home you will be the rich. Once the homes are gone they will say if you own a car you are rich. Hang on to your canned goods, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.
I have done plenty of Tea Party events...and as far as I am concerned, anyone bashing Mitt can shove it.
Obama and his Zombies overwhelmed us...THAT is what happened. Mitt, I agree with Rush, ran a decent campaign.
what? wait, doesn’t TEA stand for Totally Ending Abortions?
Rick Santorum was out there supporting Romney and other GOP candidates. He didn’t get a lot of media coverage but I follow him on twitter and was aware of it. Santorum’s wife even went to a few events with Anne Romney.
Yeah there’s plenty of fraud but it’s not the only problem.
“I don’t like whiney finger pointing. I don’t accept it from the Engineers who report to me and I won’t accept it from the politicos.
Ronald Reagan watched as Nixon (the most Liberal president ever) and Ford tried to be Democrat light. No whiney finger pointing.
He fixed the problem.”
Here here....
The Tea Party did nothing this election in my opinion. They made an impact in 2008 and 2008 only.
I agree with Mikey. Enough with the finger pointing. You can point the fingers in all the directions you want to but it makes no difference. Only you can make a difference and this year, we didn’t.
-there should be a test before anyone is allowed to vote and have kids. My opinion only. I love a free country but when you can pump out kids you can’t afford and vote for someone because you’ve heard they will pay for your babies.... We test to drive, go in the military, go to college.... It’s not a right, it’s a privilege.
-Rant... off!
Mark Levin sounds like he's putting together a strategy to save our nation that starts with the states. I'm glad he's not backtracking on just how bad off we are with Obama unlike many other Conservatives in the media who had nothing.
Watching returns in assorted states, Romney was slowly gaining in Florida and Ohio. Suddenly there was a big bounce in Obama votes. Fraud. Pure and simple.
Romney did an excellent job, and I freely admit that he was my last choice in the primaries. Had we united behind him then, it might have made a difference by securing more votes to combat the fraud.
I couldn’t agree with you more!
When Reagan ran, the Gop got rid of abortion signs,at their rallies. Aikin and Murdock should have kept their Dammed mouths shut. We may be able to pass furure laws but the Economy was are number one objective. and foreign policy.
If Newt was the stronger candidate he would have won the nomination. Truth is I was pulling foe Newt but whatever he gained on the right he would have lost on the left and he would have been carrying an awful lot of bagage into the election. I’m not convinced he would have done better
The Tea Party was probably trying to be team player and keep their criticisms low key, figuring it was better to attack Obama than Romney after the conventions.
But when did that happen??? Were they going to wait until Obama gets elected and then attack him again??? Isn’t that what talk shows are for???? That’s how they get ratings and get paid! When the bad guy wins, Rush makes money! And good for him!
But when you make a statement that we sat on our butts to wait until something big happens???? Tells me you think we dropped the ball... or we did.... Eff me, Obama won... we did.
Aside from Romney himself, his campaign ads were nothing but warm mush that made Obama look like a nice guy. “He tried. You tried. It’s okay to elect someone else” didn’t work. It made Obama look like a nice, sincere guy. Romney made Obama look like an incompetent bumbler in the first debate. The ads needed to be as aggressive as that to unseat an incumbent entering the race with very high likability ratings. Romney’s whole campaign needed to aggressively redefine Obama to bring him down from the strong personal approval ratings he was starting with.
Kind of what I thought....
sad.
Exactly! When republicans win, they 'reach across the isle'. When republicans lose, they 'reach across the isle'.
Obviously, the reason is they don't CARE if they win, because it isn't about he country, it's about the election.
I wonder if we've crossed the threshold where repentance will never be realized in this country. It's clear we are a nation under judgment by a Righteous and Holy God and I weep as did Jeremiah.
I think they'll make more sense when you can see the NH results town by town.
In some towns Republicans had strong majorities, and if you live in one of those towns you and your neighbors figured the Republicans would win big.
But every 4 years an army of other voters gets mobilized by the Democratic party machine. In come the election "volunteers" from Massachusetts, and out come all the students, and every person dependent on the government for their paycheck, and they vote Democrat.
Trust me, I hear what you are saying.
But instead of “I weep as did Jeremiah”, shouldn’t we do something about this? I’m not talking about “birther”, voter fraud, blame game, or any of that nonsense. I’m talking about 2016. Right this minute should be when we start planning our game!
(I’m a little ticked off. )
I come to the forums and hear so much “he said, she said” and finger pointing. Blame Hurricane Sandy. Blame Cristie. I’ve even heard “Blame Michael Moore”! That Has-been? Really???? Blame that fat, lump? No, blame the guy who lives next to you who voted for Obama. Quit blaming things above you! Things that are out of your reach! You want to boycott Michael Moore movies, Walmart, Lady Ga Ga, etc? Fine. It will do no good.
I’m not giving in. I’m a realist. I have friends in the “music industry” and us boycotting them does nothing to their paycheck. There are plenty of rubes out there to make up for our loss.
Question is, what are we doing for 2016?
Newt was destroyed on "Bloody Thursday", the day that the entire gope machine went into 'stop Newt in Florida' mode.
Drudge, and Rush, everyone attacked Newt that day to stop him from winning Florida and possibly stopping Mitt.
Okay! Cool! Be content with the Blame Game! That’ll win us 2016!
Go RUSH!!!! Rah freaken Rah!!!!
(told you I was ticked off)
bottom line is he didn’t win the nomination. Blame it on the boogie man if it makes you feel better
Interesting you should ask as much of what we do now is right there in scripture. I received an e-mail from Grassfire Nation citing Jeremiah 28 and 29. "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
Those words sound so good. The future is bright. God has a plan for prosperity, for a real hope and a real future. On the eve of the election, it must have meant a Romney win, the GOP takes the Senate and we start the rollback of the Obama regime, right? Not exactly. + + The Plan Was 70 years of Exile. If you read Jeremiahs letter 29:4 you'll see the Lord (through Jeremiah) giving the Jewish exiles specific instructions on how to conduct themselves in exile:
Build houses and settle down.
Plan gardens and eat what they produce.
Marry and have sons and daughters.
Marry off your sons and daughters so they can have children.
Increase in number; do not decrease
Because Jeremiah's letter makes it clear that building and marrying is not enough. People in exile must do something else -- they must be a blessing to the land. So, First, the plan is exile. Second, build. Third, bless. Simple, clear instructions.
But why was this important? Why a "plan" for exile with specific instructions on how to act in exile?
It was the lessons learned during their time in exile which enabled the Jews to survive 2,500 years in exile. But not just survive -- but to thrive and become the most prosperous, most successful and most innovative people group in the history of civilization. "
There are lessons to be learned in exile. So that's why, today, I'm going to build. And I'm going to plant. I'm going to bless. And I'm going to pray. For that is the final piece to the puzzle for our grieving nation...
"Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart."
That’s a little better! I like it much more than “weep”!
The key here is to “Build”.
Quit the pointing of fingers. It’s meaningless.
Might make you feel superior but let’s face it, we are all super heroes on the internet! We are the smartest beings ever existed! (aka: we are anonymous)
Build. Plan. Work for 2016.
I have to live with the consequences of what you people are doing to our nation.
Agree. Romney ran 10 percentage points better than Mourdoch in Indiana.
We traded an 80% Republican for a 97% Baraqqi for the next 6 years. I’m sorry I voted for him in the primary, he wasn’t ready to compete at this level.
You did the right thing! You voted for the best option we had.
7 levels of grief and you are at acceptance! “He wasn’t ready to compete at this level”. May be true. I think it’s more about uneducated people voting from the heart and not from the mind. My opinion.
Let’s face it. We are not the country we used to be. What we perceive as kids are the individuals calling the shots. You don’t have to like it but it is the reality that we live in.
Who is “cooler”? The guy who grooves with a smile, some basketball, and a good group of bands behind him? Or is it the guy who has ways to change a nation, not cool at all, who cares about where we are headed as a country, and has Kid Rock (Mr. 2003) as a band...?
This is where we are. It reminds me of Bush (Sr) vs Clinton. The guy on the back of a train or the guy playing a saxophone on the Tonight Show?
We need to educate the voting population on what is right and not what is cool. MTV... Cool in 1983. Rock the Vote? No.... Musicians are not your peers.
I’m angry and rambling. Going to bed.
Out.
Only an observation...but the chief sales point for a Democratic campaign is to divide everyone up and go for your special cause (being a woman, a union guy, a black, a Latino, a university kid, etc).
I believe in the end...Republicans have to grasp that they have to round the divisions back up and convince them that jobs, the economy, and success in life...isn’t determined by your special cause. In four years...blacks will still see a 30-percent unemployment rate for black kids 18-25 without a college education. In four years...a university grad will be standing there with $75k in debt and wondering how this $38k a year job will ever allow him to pay that off.
Republicans have yet to craft a message that draws people into one focused group.
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