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Win or lose, Obama was not and is not the president (affidavit on birth certificate forgery)
WND ^ | November 06, 2012 | Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

Posted on 11/07/2012 3:33:09 PM PST by Perseverando

As I write, it is not yet clear who has won the presidential election. Win or lose, though, Mr Obama was not and is not the president. The Hawaiian long-form “birth certificate” he publicly endorsed and posted at the White House website last year as proof that he was born in the jurisdiction of the U.S. and is thus constitutionally eligible to be president is a forgery.

I can prove it.

I have been asked to prepare an affidavit in one of the 80 court cases U.S. citizens have filed in the hope of persuading someone – anyone – in office to lift a trembling, liver-spotted finger and do something about the forgery.

The affidavit, which I shall be swearing today, is posted here, with the written permission of the plaintiff’s attorney.

In very simple language, the affidavit explains how mathematicians apply probability theory to determine the probability that suspect documents are genuine.

The diligent, unpaid heroes who have been investigating the dodgy document for more than a year on behalf of the people of Maricopa County, Ariz., have found a long list of irregularities in Mr. Obama’s identification documents.

I have used the investigators’ list to draw up a schedule of probabilities – one for each individual irregularity. The probability that the “birth certificate” and other Obama identity documents are genuine is just 1 in 75 sextillion.

I have used this method to catch con men before. I used it to demonstrate that Al Gore’s sci-fi movie was political, not scientific. The High Court in London ordered Britain’s Education Department to issue 77 pages of corrective guidance before the movie could be shown to innocent pupils.

If a document is genuine, its few irregularities will

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen
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Yeah, yeah, I know Obama showed the world his certificate of live birth. He couldn't get a drivers license in most states with that.

If Obama doesn't want to show his documentation, then I want to see it!

1 posted on 11/07/2012 3:33:18 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Obama could come out and announce his Kenyan birth on national TV at this point and it wouldn’t matter a hill of beans.

America voted for handouts. They don’t give a crap where he was born... and apparently neither does our republican representatives in congress.

Unless there is clear evidence of voter fraud to a scale that changes the election results, this election and country is over.

Welcome to Tyranny.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 3:40:31 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Perseverando

Oh please, not this $#!+ again.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:13 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Safrguns

Obama could come out and announce his Kenyan birth on national TV at this point and it wouldn’t matter a hill of beans.


Last night while I was upstairs checking FR, my wife switched to NHK (Japanese TV) coverage of the election. NHK is reporting that Obama was born in Kenya.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 3:42:46 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: Perseverando
Who gives a FFF now?

Go spew your BS on a conspiracy blog Chris, no one cares!

5 posted on 11/07/2012 3:44:54 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Perseverando

Yeah this is what we need, more birther crap.

Geeze, just let it go already. This garbage is never going to amount to anything.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 3:45:27 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Safrguns
Obama could come out and announce his Kenyan birth on national TV at this point and it wouldn’t matter a hill of beans.

The title of the thread says it all. I think you're referring only to the "win or lose" part of the title. The second part deals with the US Constitution.

7 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:25 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Longbow1969
Yeah this is what we need, more birther crap.

Actually, it may have been what was needed. The RINOs are the ones who LOST. NOT the "birthers". You just lost an election and you still have the AUDACITY to claim you still know just what we need?

Now that's funny!

8 posted on 11/07/2012 3:51:34 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Safrguns; Perseverando
"America voted for handouts. They don’t give a crap where he was born... and apparently neither does our republican representatives in congress."

That's right, on both accounts.

And, not only that...but Barry told the country he was born with foreign citizenship (British), inherited from his foreign father regardless of where he might have been born.

Most didn't pay attention, and even more don't care.

Yet another example of where and how we are loosing the country and our Constitution.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 3:52:20 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Perseverando

It’s all irrelevant now.

The majority of the voting public had to know his place of birth is in question. They are aware of the economy and foreign affairs being in poor shape.

No one could push this birth thing before, and certainly no one will now. The issue is even deader now than before the election. He got by with it and so much more.

Now comes the EPA full blast, gun rights into the toilet, illegal immigrants becoming full citizens, the list is endless.

Welcome to Greece.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 3:54:32 PM PST by redfreedom
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To: Perseverando

The Hawaii state registrar, Alvin Onaka, has legally confirmed that he cannot verify any of Obama’s claimed birth facts - presumably because the birth certificate they have is not legally valid, since Onaka has verified that the claims on the White House BC image “match” (but are not identical to) the claims on the original record.

In addition he has confirmed that the White House image is NOT a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”.

Without a legally valid record from Hawaii, there are no legally-determined birth facts for Obama saying he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to any US citizen. At BEST his eligibility cannot be legally known, and the chances of him having a non-valid BC if the claims on his Hawaii BC was correct is practically zero.

A legally non-valid BC for Obama explains why the 1960-64 birth index was altered to include names from legally non-valid records. Prior to Obama’s long-form forgery being made public, AP reporter Mark Niesse admitted in a public article that Obama’s name on the birth index list was the only concrete piece of evidence from the HDOH that Obama was born in Hawaii - yet now we know that the index tells us nothing about whether a legally valid Hawaii birth record exists for ANYBODY.

IOW, there is no positive evidence from Hawaii, and now the HDOH has confirmed that they have NO positive evidence of a Hawaii birth for Obama. And Obama posted a forgery to hide that fact.

See http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf to understand how Onaka verified these things.

See http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf to read the letter Attorney Larry Klayman sent to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer warning him that any certification of Obama’s eligibility or candidacy would be perjurious and fraudulent. CC’s of that letter were sent to every member of the DNC Executive Committee, every member of the Committee on Presidential Debates, every state democratic party chair, every state Secretary of State, and every state Attorney General.

See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/birth-index-list-does-not-indicate-legally-valid-record/ for proof that the 1960-64 birth index includes names from legally non-valid birth certificates.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2954935/posts?page=32#32 for a summary of how the letter of verification unfolded.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2954935/posts?page=37#37 for my theory on how Obama’s fraud transpired and why.

See


11 posted on 11/07/2012 3:55:52 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Perseverando

Even if only for posterity sake and for the historical fact to show everyone that Obama is the lying usurping scoundrel that he is would be great.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 3:56:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: OwenKellogg
Last night while I was upstairs checking FR, my wife switched to NHK (Japanese TV) coverage of the election. NHK is reporting that Obama was born in Kenya.

Interesting.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: redfreedom; Perseverando
"He got by with it and so much more."

And so much more is an understatement.

He's created a precedent in plain site, that someone born owing allegiance to a foreign power is now eligible to be our Commander in Chief.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 3:59:21 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Perseverando

All said and done...Like Hoppy used to say...looks like they got the drop on us!

Semper Watching!
*****


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:59:39 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Safrguns

There is clear LEGAL evidence of election fraud in every state in the union.

HI state registrar Alvin Onaka has legally confirmed that they have no legally valid BC for Obama, which means that the Official Certification of Nomination for Obama is known to be fraudulent. DNC Counsel Bob Bauer is known to have suborned perjury when he counseled Villaigarosa and Germond to sign it, since he was informed of Hawaii’s verification 4 days before the DNC Convention even began, and when he submitted that OCON he committed election fraud in every state capital in this country.

For links to documentation see my post right before this one.

At this point it is legally known that every state had election fraud, without which Obama would have ZERO electoral votes. That’s legally as significant as EVERY vote being proven to be fraudulent.

If America doesn’t care and if nobody in the system will do anything about this, then I beg the Lord to finish this country off immediately, as we deserve.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:04:45 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Longbow1969
"This garbage is never going to amount to anything." Longbow1969

You ARE correct, it can never amount to anything ... with people like you who wink at the criminality of little barry bastard boy and do not care if the Constitution is enforced or not, and certainly see no value in oaths of office, as you see them as merely charades.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 4:05:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: butterdezillion

Obama is a figure head. The country is being presidented (is that a word?) by the teleprompter writers.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 4:06:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tgusa; Longbow1969; sirchtruth

The Law matters.

Regardless of your opinion regarding the candidates or other citizens who have brought challenges, the challenges were brought pursuant to law. Keep in mind: the document underlying the image posted on the government website whitehouse.gov has never been presented to any election official or court.

It is a PR stunt. Nothing more.

Don’t be such enabling suckers, you RINOs.

How much do we have to let slide? ID, nah no prob. “recess appointments” when not in recess, nothin here. Fast & Furious, ineffectual bleating for well over a year with empty threats of indictments. Benghazi... nothing being done.

We’ve done it the RINO way. You gave us failure upon failure. Dole. McCain. Romney. Boehner is out there today supplicating to Obama.

Enough.

The RINO way does not work. RINOs are the Democrat shock-troops, softening up the population.

The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are those with something to hide.

Crouch and lick the hand that feeds you.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 4:08:21 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Perseverando

oh dear..not this again. please no.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:16 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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