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The rotten oak tree from Atlas Shrugged
Atlas Shrugged | 1957 | Ayn Rand

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:49 PM PST by Maceman

The great oak tree had stood on a hill over the Hudson, in a lonely spot of the Taggert estate. Eddie Willers, aged seven, liked to come and look at that tree. It had stood there for hundreds of years, and he thought it would always stand there. Its roots clutched the hill like a fist with fingers stuck into the soil, and he thought if a giant were to seize it by the top, he would not be able to uproot it, but would swing the hill and the whole of the earth with it, like a ball at the end of a string. He felt safe in the oak tree's presence; it was a thing that nothing could change or threaten; it was his greatest symbol of strength.

One night, lightning struck the oak tree. Eddie saw it the next morning. It lay broken in half, and he looked into its trunk as into the mouth of a black tunnel. The trunk was only an empty shell; its heart had rotted away long ago; there was nothing inside - just a thin gray dust that was being dispersed by the whim of the faintest wind. The living power had gone, and the shape of it left had not been able to stand without it.



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This powerful metaphor came to mind today as I pondered the inevitable collapse of the once invincible U.S.A.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:52 PM PST by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Excellent.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:06 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: Maceman

Our Constitutional Republic was a grand idea; a wonderful and fragile experiment in Life, Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness. We are now too far down socialism’s “free stuff” slope to stop the descent into madness and collapse. It’s not the fall that will kill us; it’s the sudden stop at the bottom.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:00:04 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: Maceman
Stolen from Jonathan Hoenig's web site:

How long do we have?
4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:49 PM PST by tpmintx (Problem: People who work for a living are almost outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living (47%).)
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To: Maceman
This powerful metaphor came to mind today as I pondered the inevitable collapse of the once invincible U.S.A.

All I can say is we've supported the welfare slugs long enough. In fact, money for THEIR keep comes out of our pay checks before we even get them!
There are hard working, fine Americans in this country who can't afford a cell phone for their kids, yet the slugs get theirs free of charge. Does that sound right to anyone else?
Not every working American can afford a two or three bedroom apartment. They have to live in small utility apartment because it's all they can afford, yet some bimbo who's never done anything for anyone in her life gets knocked up, and she gets the apartment as well as the equivalent of $40-$60K a year in "free" benefits. Does this sound fair to anyone else?

In a way, an economic crash is the only way to free the tax slaves. If there's no money to take, the slaves may have a hard time getting by, but they will because they've had practice already, and they'll be a free people again.

Screw the freeloaders. They can eat each other for all I care. My family has already done more than it's "fair" share.

5 posted on 11/07/2012 2:07:39 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Maceman

A very powerful excerpt from AS. It causes me to ponder those who read it when first published in 1957 or perhaps the John Birch Society members of that time with their dire view of the political situation. They knew...they could see the clouds gathering...yet we laughed and played in the sunshine, bought by patriots’ blood, unwilling to understand the inexorable cycle of human folly and hubris.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:08:07 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: carriage_hill

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

7 posted on 11/07/2012 2:12:42 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: carriage_hill

Secession may be the only way out.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:15:49 PM PST by expat2
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To: concerned about politics
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.

Socialism is a violation of the ten commandments ... thou shalt not covet ... thou shalt not steal ... honor they father and thy mother ...

And most hideously (socialism makes the government ALL powerful)

Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 2:21:40 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: concerned about politics

“In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise. He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Daniel 8: 23-25


10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:22:27 PM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: expat2

Secession sounds like a plan to me


11 posted on 11/07/2012 2:23:19 PM PST by Josa
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To: Maceman

Excellent post. I’ve been struggling to find motivation to do any work today. Thanks for posting that. I just printed it and put it on my office door.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:32 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Maceman

There was a pacifist plea during WW2. Naive as it suggested it against Nazis. But that the key was simple passive disobedience. Refusal to acknowledge the Germans if they invaded.

I think falling back and strengthening ourselves akin to what the free state project wanted to do. Because if you live in an area where you know nobody will enforce anything on the feds behalf you’ve essentially liberated yourself from them.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:29:45 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Cowman

OweBama is just an antichrist wannabe. look elsewhere.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:31:20 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: ArrogantBustard
Socialism is a violation of the ten commandments ...

When the 10 Commandments are removed from the public square, their opposites move in to fill the void.

Political correctness, or the doctrine of demons, has been taught to the children in the government schools as universal truth.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 2:31:22 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cowman
Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Amen.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 2:33:47 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Gasshog
OweBama is just an antichrist wannabe. look elsewhere.

The Antichrist will make himself appear to be a man of peace during his first three and 1/2 years. It's the second three and 1/2 years we have to worry about. This is when he exposes his true evil.

According to Nostradamus, the Antichrist is "The Black King." People thought he meant a man with a darkened heart for years. Maybe this is a literal interpretation.

The Antichrist will be anti-Jew (Israel) and anti-christian (U.S.) and his goal will be to destroy both. He will be a leader of the world.

The Muslim Mahdi is the Bibles Antichrist. The description, including the mark on the hand or forehead, is the same. The Antichrist worships Allah. He's the man the Muslims have been waiting for.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 2:45:38 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: expat2

That’s already been tried, with much bloodshed and a long, hard struggle. It failed, and many of the same states that today resist Hussein’s folly are now those in red on the map; but are even now strong-armed by “Union” forces up north and made to live under tyrants. - Secession might be nice for a change if we could do it peaceable. - I think Texas may be able to do that, both legally and physically. Ugh, though. The illegals in Texas are a real problem; and it’s also real, real hot there in the summer.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:02 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: Twinkie
The illegals in Texas are a real problem..

If Texas left the Union they could create their own immigration laws....AND enforce them.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:44 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Maceman

We were invincible while we were moral. We are no longer moral, as a whole. The subsequent collapse is inevitable.

The poison took hold in the 1960s. Since then, we have only been fighting a rear-guard delaying action against national collapse.

Now the enemy within is at the gates and the fall is imminent.

It has been more than a decade since I have wondered how the Roman Empire fell. I no longer wonder because I am seeing it in real time. The masses are lazy and decadent and want free stuff rather than work. Meanwhile, the US is flooded with Mexicans while Europe is flooded with Muslims.

I know exactly now how Rome Fell. Immorality and opening their doors to invaders. I am seeing it all in real time along with the parallel collapse.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:54 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: concerned about politics
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21 posted on 11/07/2012 3:00:05 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Maceman

There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

“Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main Weapon,”
The Los Angeles times, Sept. 9, 1962, G2


22 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:25 PM PST by Raymann
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I know exactly now how Rome Fell. Immorality and opening their doors to invaders.

Like minds. I was thinking about the Roman Empire this morning, and how America has taken the same path. With half a population of sloth, envy, degradation, infanticide, homosexuality, and every other screwed up type of liberal thing one can think of, the U.S. is on the edge of a great cleansing. I don't think the U.S has much time socially, physically, or financially.

10+ quake coming in December somewhere in the world, and it's going to be devastating. It has to do with planetary pulls. (This man has been 100% right about quakes so far. So right, it's frightening.)

23 posted on 11/07/2012 3:16:09 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Raymann
There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

Socialism is the prelude to communism. It gets the camels head into the tent.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: expat2; concerned about politics

The next 4yrs, if we survive them, are going to be very ugly. And it’s going to start soon.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:42 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: tpmintx
You're thinking way too small:


26 posted on 11/07/2012 3:50:29 PM PST by FredZarguna (I'm sorry, General Washington. We owed you and the men at Valley Forge so much more than this.)
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To: carriage_hill
I was getting the business from a liberal wingnut today.

In the interest of bipartisanship we are supposed to be running toward headlong, I asked, “Is there any part of the conservative agenda that you agree with?”

Amazingly he said,”yes, I do not agree with many of the attitudes that make abortions so easy to obtain”.

To this I replied,” good grief, this is the only place I break with republicans. There have been 50 million abortions performed in this country. An estimated 87% of are from inner cities, which would obviously be liberal democrats. If all those people were voting we wouldn't be able to elect a dog catcher.I think there should be a planned parenthood on every street corner in every major metro area in the USA. As a matter of fact they ought to include crack, meth, heroine, coke, ecstasy, and all other currently illegal drugs in the pot movement . That way people with poor character or genetics would get addicted early in life and most likely never see 25 yrs old . Hopefully this would limit the number of women they fertilize and thereby limit the number that actually survive abortion, THEREBY REMOVING THEIR IGNORANT, ADDICTIVE, DEPENDENT, GENES FROM THE GENEPOOL.” !!!

He left me alone for the rest of the day.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 4:21:29 PM PST by ping jockey (tagline free zone)
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To: ping jockey

That’s actually a pretty good idea. LOL. That would solve all the PDs’ property rooms’ confiscated drug cache problems, and rotate the supply thru the gene pool.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 5:49:07 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: expat2
"Secession may be the only way out."

~~~~~~~~~

Time to start drawing lines and filling out our list...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

The only way to stop the "takers" now is to cut off the flow of cash from red to blue.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 6:53:23 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: concerned about politics; Maceman
Well stated concerned about politics.

In a way, an economic crash is the only way to free the tax slaves. If there's no money to take, the slaves may have a hard time getting by, but they will because they've had practice already, and they'll be a free people again.

Isn't it ironic that we have the option to bow out of the workforce under the protection of the thirteenth amendment?

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

This is the Achilles heel of the great socialist movement. It will only take a small percentage of workers to decide that riding the cart is much easier than pushing it to end the decline.

30 posted on 11/07/2012 7:46:12 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Bogey78O
Refusal to acknowledge the Germans if they invaded.

That did not work out so well. There is no place so completely conservative, so complete full of the spirit of liberty, that no Quislings can be found.

The muslims used this in their conquests. First find a few to work with you, and then over time, the pressure of dhimmi status will convert more and more.

What we needed to do, is recognize where the margin was, where the evil influence was coming. Instead of killing the Dept of Ed, GWBush expanded it. Instead of promoting non-government schools, GWBush expanded federal control of schools.

Destroy the roots of socialism in the schools. But of course, teachers are untouchable and so we lost.

And soon, we will follow the path of Germany and Sweden which have declared that any non-state education is anti-social and criminal. And the GOP-e will go along with it, after all, it's for the children.

General resistance without an understanding of the logic of the left's strategy is doomed to fail. The strategy of Fabian Socialism is to wrap themselves in the sacred cows of the conservative, such as education, to do their dirty work while being protected from assault.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:06 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: slowhandluke

Oh, I know it did not work out nor would it. The Nazis were far too brutal for it to work out.

The problem we have here is we’ve essentially lost the federal gov’t and have no hope of taking it back any time soon. The rest of the country just doesn’t realize how bad they are.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 9:14:11 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Bogey78O
The rest of the country just doesn’t realize how bad they are.

There's no way to argue with that.

33 posted on 11/08/2012 12:27:23 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: concerned about politics

I see more and more folks on here coming to this realization.

Total economic crash is the only way out, and it is inevitable.

IS EVERYONE PREPAREING FOR IT, THOUGH?

Hop on over to Kartographer’s threads if you’re clueless.
Get started NOW. You have about 5 months to 9 months at the outside. Shouldn’t make predictions, but that is my opinion.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 12:32:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cowman

Wow... I’d never give BHO the credit for being smart enough to be the AC, but that passage from Daniel describes him to a ‘T’.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:38 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Gasshog

I’ve called him

“the John-the-Baptist of the Antichrist”.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 12:34:50 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TXnMA

The “bluesters” say that the money actually flows the other way.

To which I reply - “then you wouldn’t miss us, eh?”

They get really mad, because they know what would happen if people were offered the choice of freedom vs socialism.

All the slugs would go blue, all the productive people to the red.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 12:37:40 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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