Skip to comments.Obama Won Ohio in 2012 With Fewer Votes Than McCain Received in 2008
Posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:25 AM PST by Arthurio
Obama Won Ohio in 2012 With Fewer Votes Than McCain Received in 2008
Ohio 2008: John McCain 2,677,820 votes (46.8%)
Ohio 2012: Barack Obama 2,672,302 (50.1%)
Source for 2008 Results: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Ohio,_2008
Source for 2012 Results: http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results
Romney doing worse than McCain (nationwide) was noted on some other threads, but some have cautioned that many votes still remain to be counted. But Ohio is 100% in, so we can make a very easy and stark comparison.
Mitt= Bob Dole...Sarah 2016
McCain > Romney? bad > worse? Ouch.
The media and all the anti-Romney spammers here can be happy now that conservative voter turnout was depressed
I’m sticking with the Mormon theory. Ohio has enough conservative Christians for it to make a difference. Same with FL and VA and NC.
Palin was on ticket last time
Was conservative turnout depressed or is the total pool of Republican voters just shrinking? I wonder if someone has the answer. If turnout was the problem, that can be fixed. If it’s a shrinking pool, we have a significant problem to fix.
McCain > Romney + “not again”.
the pool of Republican voters was pretty large in 2010....
I’d campaign hard for her.
Just another totally implausible fact coming out of this very strange election.
That is the weirdest thing I have seen so far. How is that possible? McCain was just awful. Mormon thing? Best explanation I have seen at this early juncture.
I think you are correct. There is quite a bit of anti-Mormon stuff here on the religion forum and much of the right is evangelical.
So the evangelicals didn’t show up either?
Yes, but where are we now? What is the total number of registered republicans in 2012 What is the percentage of them that voted in 2012? Likewise, what is the total number of registered dems and what percentage voted in 2012. If we met or exceeded them on a percentage basis, then we have too small of a current pool. We would need to bring more into our tent. If our percentage is lower than the dems, but the totals are relatively the same, then we just need to improve GOTV efforts.
Me too- If she ran I’d be on the streets campaigning for her— She would win!!!!!!.. I think Sarah knew in her gut to stay out of this one- It’ll be differ in 2016 when everyone is eating out of dumpsters..
I don’t know to what extent, but I’m sure some fraud went on.
So lets see just how smart Ohioans are: The auto workers think Obama bail out nation is better for them than R/R energy nation.
And the Ohio evangelicals are more obsessed with Mormonism than they are Socialist Black LIberation Theology. How is that Biblical in any way, shape or form?
The state has rebublican govenor and congress. Makes no sense. Also didn’t OH vote down Obamacare? What also doesn’t make sense is the ralley’s for Romney in OH were reported to be much larger, early voting was said to be up among Republicans, and there were tons of tweets of increased turnout in Republican counties
Maybe this is why....
Not that it matters all that much, but doesn’t Ohio have 130,000 provisional & absentee ballots they said was going to take 10 days to receive and count.
As per every election since 1964, the pct as decribed below is repeated
The Ohio relationship continues - National Pct: Obama 51.1 Romney 48.9 ; Ohio Pct: Obama 51.0 Romney 49.0 - Dems underperform.
I guess Muslim > Mormon
One big reason in Ohio that gets overlooked -- the Ohio legislature, dominated by Republicans, passed Senate Bill 5 to stick it to unions. The unions gathered signatures & put it on the 2011 ballot then turned out big to repeal it.
There are a lot of union members & households in NE Ohio who could potentially vote Republican & have before (i.e. "Reagan Democrats").
However, the GOP was tarnished over what happened with Senate Bill 5 & the unions did not forget.
Not the only reason for last night. But I maintain it's a bigger one than people suspect.
Yeah, but millions of low-information voters don't pay much attention to mid-terms.
But when the Messiah is running, telling them "those folks gonna take your free shit away", it is an entirely different game.
Also democrat voter fraud
I didn’t see her campaigning for Romney or much for anyone else this election - or am I wrong ?
Like several others here, I’m really suspicious about some of the outcomes of this election, after the huge crowds that Romney drew. The fact that there were malfunctioning voting machines really worries me—yes, we caught the ones that showed the vote changed to Obama early on, but who’s to say what happened after the fact, after the voter had cast his/her vote, especially in Democratic regions. This whole election stinks, and I’m fed up with the damned Republicans, and Romney, for not really examining this more closely.
I just don’t see how it is possible with all the stories yesterday of long lines and packed GOP voting districts. I don’t recall stories like that in 2008
Still 300,000 absentee and provision ballots.
Still 300,000 absentee and provisional ballots to be counted.
Still 300,000 absentee and provisional ballots to be counted.
voter fraud?...who is watching the counters? Who is calibrating the machines? What is the process? Why did Betty Sutton Lose and Sherrod Brown and Obama won? Did they only calibrate the wins for Brown and Obama?
Why did Obama sound so sure of himself when he told Russia on the hot mic that he had greater flexibility in his second term?
Is Betty Suttons loss the real reflection on how this election should have gone?
Well, she voted for newt.. I dont think she likes mittens— mabe cause he is a liberal? I dont know
She also wasnt invited to speak at the RNC eather— hum
They must hate Romney so much that they just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for him, even though they probably wanted Obama to go. Why do they hate Romney? Are they hardcore conservatives? Some perhaps, but that is not enough reason to cause such hatred. I think it is either
So, at least it isn’t demographics or anything else that is impossible to change in the foreseeable future. Just nominate a poor evangelical, next time…
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/07/fox-news-exit-poll-summary/#ixzz2BZFBcj2Z
It’s all about branding. Clinton went on every Talk show, even on MTV, Bush got kissed by Oprah. McCain never saw a microphone he didn’t love. It’s all about getting out there. I think a lot of folks who don’t really follow this stuff were like Mitt who? I think ideology is secondary to “rock star” tactics.
I think I may have an idea as to why the disconnect. It occurred to me this morning when I was re-thinking my voting experience yesterday. All of the precincts that voted at the same location used to go to different tables and had their own voting booths. Yesterday, they combined four (in our case) and put all booths against a single wall. I'm not sure, but I think they REDUCED the number of machines, which would slow the process down. In addition, rather than four women taking IDs and checking names, it was only two.
I'm looking into this. It would explain the so called "turnout" when in fact there wasn't any.
Turnout looks like it was terrible for Romney. 4 million less than Bush 2004, 2 million less than McCain.
Obama meanwhile is at John Kerry levels, making him beatable.
Are you one of those true conservatives that stayed home and did not vote in this election? Just asking
the GOTV effort turned out to be a myth yesterday...i voted and will continue to vote yet when the GOP calls me for money i tell them the same thing every time- when you start fighting for me the way i fight for you then i will donate....seems some conservative voters felt the same and decided not to vote yesterday....
fact is the GOP has offered little in the way of results or alternatives the past two years...some of this shit is easy- boehner should tell obama tomorrow “we will roll back the Bush tax cuts in return for a repeal of obamacare”- its win/win for the GOP yet to simple for them to try and they probably consider it a bit dangerous...
Also go compair the peeps at sarahs RNC 08 speech to mittens and ryans— not even close!! Sarah wins hands down.. If the GOP runs liberals and moderate canidates, they will loose everytime..If eveyone would rally around Palin and stick to her she would win in 2016— I really believe that— I said way early on mitt was gonna loose cause hes a liberal
Looks like Evangelical Christians stayed home.
Let’s not forget the Communist Democrats specifically set out to depress the white conservative vote.
We just weren’t pro-Romney
We didn’t hoist this candidate on anyone, the Pro-Romney people are totally responsible for the narrative that only Romney can win.
He did worse, let that sink in.....worse
And McCain was the moderate of the moderates in the Congress. Mr. Moderate himself.
The state has rebublican govenor and congress. Makes no sense. Also didnt OH vote down Obamacare? What also doesnt make sense is the ralleys for Romney in OH were reported to be much larger, early voting was said to be up among Republicans, and there were tons of tweets of increased turnout in Republican counties
Its white guilt plain and simple. Thats why none of this adds up and never will. Like you mentioned OH is more of a red state now than in 2008 yet re-voted for a man who has shown himself to be way far left, hurt the economy and passed horrible HC bill most people in OH rejected.
Nobody wanted to see the light skinned, non-threatening, seemingly “Nice” first black man as President go down as a failure in history. This is something that is so engrained in this culture people partaking in it don’t realize the patronizing way they treat minorities.
Thats why all the polls seem to say YES THIS ECONOMY SUCKS, YES ROMNEY WOULD DO BETTER AT FIXING IT, YES I HATE OBAMACARE, but went and voted for Mr. Weepy anyway.
Sure those tears were fake to illicit sympathy.