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Russian Attack Sub Off Our Coast As Sequestration Looms
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | November 7, 2012

Posted on 11/07/2012 10:40:09 AM PST by raptor22

Defense: The fruit of unilateral disarmament, appeasement and promised "flexibility" patrols our East Coast near one of our largest ballistic missile submarine bases. Defense cuts and Russian subs — a double whammy.

'On June 1 or a bit later, we will resume constant patrolling of the world's oceans by strategic nuclear submarines," Russian Navy Commander Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky said in February. Keeping that promise, a Russian Sierra-2 class nuclear attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of our East Coast on the eve of a U.S. presidential election in which defense spending and priorities were a key issue.

This is the first time a Russian Sierra-2 class sub, believed to be based with Russia's Northern Fleet and armed with SSN anti-submarine warfare missiles and torpedoes, has been detected near the U.S. coast, reports Bill Gertz of the Washington Free Beacon.

"As was their primary mission during the Cold War, Russian SSNs nuclear attack submarines would likely be trying to track U.S. nuclear missile submarines deploying from Kings Bay, Ga., and to monitor U.S. naval deployments from Norfolk, Va.," according to Richard Fisher, a military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center. Two guided missile submarines and six nuclear missile submarines are docked at Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base.

The Sierra-2 is comparable to the U.S. Los Angeles-class attack submarine. Russia is building a new class of attack submarines said to be comparable to the latest U.S. Virginia-class subs, Fisher says. The attack sub was accompanied by a nearby Russian electronic intelligence-gathering vessel that was granted safe harbor during Hurricane Sandy in the commercial port of Jacksonville, Fla., within listening range of Kings Bay.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: 2012; defensecuts; democrats; disarmament; fiscalcliff; ibd; ibddefense; obama; obamalateral; russiansub; sequestration; surrender; usnavy

1 posted on 11/07/2012 10:40:17 AM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22
Russian Attack Sub Off Our Coast As Sequestration Looms

In case comrade 0bama needs help.

2 posted on 11/07/2012 10:43:58 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil)
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To: raptor22

Weakness invites war.
But, maybe the Russians could also send another boat for those seeking to escape the US for a more capitalitic country, like Russia.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 10:44:24 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: raptor22

Plenty of gays, illegals, and birth control popping skanks available to protect the north-east because I certainly hope they dont think people with guns are going to die for them.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 10:45:20 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Wolverines!!!


5 posted on 11/07/2012 10:48:06 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: raptor22

Our Lady - “Do not take lightly the reports of ships out on the sea and submarines. They are there, My child and My children, and they are not out for a joy ride. It is all part of the master plan for the takeover of the United States and Canada.”


6 posted on 11/07/2012 10:50:45 AM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: raptor22

Romney said the biggest threat to the U.S.is Russia


7 posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:28 AM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Obamalateral disarmament ping


8 posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:28 AM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22

America will crumble if attacked. Most Americans are soft undereducated fools that never had a real problem of the magnitude we will be faced with within the next 4 years. King Obama has already remove funding for our military and he wants an agreement with Russia to disarm nukes.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:37 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Obamalateral disarmament ping


10 posted on 11/07/2012 10:53:32 AM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Logical me

“America will crumble if attacked.”

American CITIES will implode. The rest of us will do just fine.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 10:54:04 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: raptor22

America will crumble if attacked. Most Americans are soft undereducated fools that never had a real problem of the magnitude we will be faced with within the next 4 years. King Obama has already remove funding for our military and he wants an agreement with Russia to disarm nukes.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 10:54:22 AM PST by Logical me
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To: raptor22

Skip Tyler: When I was twelve, I helped my Daddy build a bomb shelter in our basement, because some damn fool parked a dozen warheads ninety miles off the coast of Florida. This thing could park a coupla’ hundred warheads off Washington or New York and no-one would know anything about it until it was all over. (The Hunt For Red October)

or - Obama gets a 2nd term and we float by on the surface...


13 posted on 11/07/2012 10:54:56 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: CodeToad
American CITIES will implode. The rest of us will do just fine.

So goes the cities, so goes the Country. There is no way "the rest of us" can survive without the whole.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 10:59:06 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

“There is no way “the rest of us” can survive without the whole.”

What exactly do the cities provide for us that we cannot do without?


15 posted on 11/07/2012 11:10:03 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: raptor22

Can’t they come around to the left coast and claim the coastal cities of California? Let them deal with the perversion, debauchery, corruption and earthquakes for awhile.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 11:30:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: CodeToad

unless you live a stone age existence, pretty much everything.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 11:30:55 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: raptor22

Russian subs near our shores while the Chinese begin making a play for Lajes Field, Azores.

Yep, some really heady days for Amerika... yessirree.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 11:33:21 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: raptor22

was it venting fumes and awaiting a tow?


19 posted on 11/07/2012 11:35:54 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: BCW

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
--- Admiral Josh Painter - (Fred Dalton Thompson) Hunt for Red October - 1990

20 posted on 11/07/2012 11:41:38 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: raptor22
Hope for accuracy...
21 posted on 11/07/2012 11:55:54 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: raptor22

there wil be nothng to see for the Russians in a couople fo years as obama woudl make the military a homosexual green energy social justice force instead of a fighting unit


22 posted on 11/07/2012 11:57:54 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Logical me

walking dead has their cities gone but the redneck and Rick is doing alright.

OK I now it is not real but why do we need cities and I htnik we do not need the elitist homosexual loving cross dressing liberal , pro illegal north east.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 12:00:56 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: angelcindy

“take over”...as if Russian needs more welfare cases...


24 posted on 11/07/2012 12:01:52 PM PST by B212
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To: raptor22
....was granted safe harbor during Hurricane Sandy ...

This still baffles me. Why would a submarine need a safe place during a storm?

25 posted on 11/07/2012 12:02:27 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Liberty Valance



"Comrade Putin would like to personally thank all
zee American leeberals who voted for Comrade Obama"

26 posted on 11/07/2012 12:03:50 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: raptor22

It’s not the worst language in the world to learn.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 12:05:29 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: raptor22

get use to it

0bama took our arsenal from over 6,000 warheads to under 1,000 in the 3 1/2 yrs he’s been in office

in the next 4 years, we won’t have any left.

at which point, we get to stare down the russians and chinese with... indignation?

good luck with that


28 posted on 11/07/2012 12:06:30 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: angelcindy

The phrase, “testing the waters”, takes on a whole new meaning in this context. In the past I worked on cases involving international incidents involving Russia. I knew it would only be a matter of time before they rose to be an even more powerful threat than they were pre-1990’s after their fall. Recently I read reports where they are completely updating all their military technology which concerns me as the U.S. has almost always had the upper hand in this area. Now with our economic infrastructure substantially weakened and the socialist ideologies made more acceptable by liberal school systems (that were manipulated by foreign elements for said purpose) it would not take much to put us onto a tailspin and they know this. Now that they own your children’s minds the task to repel these foreign threats will be much harder.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:26 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: raptor22

Ivan’s Sierra II’s are “special” . They only made two, so far as I can tell, since they turned out to be lead pigs. The hulls are titanium which sounds neat but it has a fatal defect in a constant seawater atmosphere. The stuff “pinholes “ right straight thru. Putin might be trying to put a few miles on one before he has to either park it or bottom-fish for it.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 2:18:53 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: RitchieAprile

I’m sure that we can arrange to ship in Chinese goods via alternate routes, maybe truck them in from Canada and Mexico :P


31 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:24 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: All

obama now has more flexibility.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 2:43:29 PM PST by Terry Mross (Once again I wasted my vote. But I have learned my lesson.)
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To: jsanders2001

But, but...the Russians officially abandoned Communism, so now they’re OK...right?/s;)


33 posted on 11/07/2012 2:50:43 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: angelcindy
Romney said the biggest threat to the U.S.is Russia

:( I AM having a difficult time with the Commie take over.

34 posted on 11/07/2012 3:07:07 PM PST by madison10
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To: cherokee1
...since they turned out to be lead pigs.

Could that be because of the boats itself or because of the untrained/inexperienced crews that are manning them. Russians patrol their boats so infrequently that the crews can't be anything but rookies every time they sail.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:56 PM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Liberty Valance

Well said!


36 posted on 11/07/2012 3:56:05 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Vaquero

Thanks...I was having a brain-fart regarding a movie I wanted to order.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: raptor22

It was lying in wait to see who would be elected President. If Romney, who was on the East Coast in Boston - then they would attack. Obama was safely in Chicago!

Maybe? I guess I have become twisted!


38 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:46 PM PST by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: uglybiker

It was a separate surface vessel (target) that tied up in port during the storm.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:34 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: raptor22; All

40 posted on 12/31/2012 8:59:59 AM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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41 posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:51 AM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: F15Eagle
Putin only wanted Obama because Romney made a big deal out of calling Russia our enemy.

Beyond that, Putin appears to be scared to death that we are headed towards Communism.

You will recall, he wrote a letter, published in Pravda, after Obama was elected the first time, warning America, "Do not go down the road to Communism, because that is what destroyed Russia".

Putin understands the problem with Muslims, our leadership has not and does not.

I couldn't believe Bush chastizing Russia over the battle in Chechnya against the muslims. We should have been offering Russia help.

Russia is becoming far more free than us.

For instance, If we get our tires wet or go into a "wetlands" at all, we are subject to a $5000 fine from the wetland police, even if it's on your own land.

In Russia, they have the annual Ladoga Challenge and many other 4X4 events in and around swamps.

We are on the wrong side in Syria, as the Assad regime protected Christians in Syria. The rebels will kill them. We should either be neutral or support Russia.

As long as they guaranteed our constitutional rights, many of us would welcome the Russians invasion as a liberation, and be supplying all the Vodka we could to thank them.

42 posted on 12/31/2012 9:39:13 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Grampa Dave; granite; GreenFreeper; grjr21; I got the rope; IchBinEinBerliner; jaredt112; JayB; ...

43 posted on 12/31/2012 10:03:16 AM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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