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Boehner: Focus on ‘common ground’ to help avert fiscal cliff (DON'T COMPROMISE, LET IT CRASH!)
the hill ^ | 11/7/2012 | By Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:24 AM PST by tobyhill

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will deliver a statement Wednesday afternoon on the need for both Republicans and Democrats to find some agreement to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff — a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that are scheduled for 2013.

Boehner's office said he would call on both sides to seek "common ground" to help the economy and create jobs, which in turn would help reduce the national debt.

Boehner is scheduled to speak at 3:30 p.m. in the Capitol. He'll speak just hours after Republicans maintained their hold on the House of Representatives.

Leaders from both parties have expressed optimism that finding cooperation on the fiscal cliff would be somewhat easier post-election. But Tuesday's vote essentially cemented in place the federal government that has wrangled over these issues for the past two year and failed to find common ground.

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1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:30 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Its over... were done..common ground means we will cave...no fight left at all


2 posted on 11/07/2012 8:03:10 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: tobyhill

More of the same...F the GOP.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 8:04:48 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: tobyhill
I hear that...it's 'Scorched Earth' time...crash it into the ground..

The quicker this thing fails, the quicker we get to rebuild it.

4 posted on 11/07/2012 8:05:08 AM PST by Fedupwithit ("Live Free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: tobyhill

They’ve got something on this empty suit.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 8:05:08 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Turns out that White Horse was just a whitewashed jackass.)
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To: tobyhill

Weepy Boehner needs to just crawl away. The “Gone Old Party” is done. Please, someone, stick a fork in it.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 8:05:17 AM PST by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, Boner, it’s not like you are a big part of there problem or anything/sarc


7 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:29 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: tobyhill

Many believe in doctor assisted suicide. That when someone is suffering so horribly with no chance of recovery that it’s better to let them die suddenly then linger.

Their thinking won last night.

Let it crash.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:36 AM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: tobyhill

John-Boy needs a flood of calls reminding him that he still has his cushy gig as Speaker because we DO NOT WANT COMPROMISE.

Let’s work those phones, people.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:52 AM PST by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: tobyhill

When we won in 2010 and the House kept every, single GOP-E leader in power I knew that nothing would change.

Boehner should be gone after last night. Period.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:55 AM PST by Noamie
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To: tobyhill

Smart move. Openly support compromise while not compromising. Gingrich made the mistake of starting a verbal war and the media made him into Lord Voldemort.

We are willing to compromise with the President as long as he agrees to what we want. That’s how Obama does it.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 8:07:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: tobyhill

I recommend “Automated Continuing Resolutions” Then our fearless President will merely press a button on his desk to order another trillion in ‘funny’ money.
This will remove a great deal of pressure from the Speaker, a good but weepy man.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 8:08:13 AM PST by Hans
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To: Hojczyk
"Its over... were done..common ground means we will cave...no fight left at all"

Yep. When the Pubbies compromise, it always ends up costing taxpayers more money. I'm done with it all. This was the last election I'll ever vote in. They can all go f*ck themselves for all I care.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 8:09:27 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Fedupwithit

This country voted for that cliff - give it to them.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 8:09:48 AM PST by Floratina
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To: Psalm 144
They’ve got something on this empty suit.

Nah, it's just in his nature. He's from the Bob Michel line of Republicans.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:10:05 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Bogey78O

We need to ditch the Republicans and either follow the TEAparty, or come up with another TEAparty-like party that can gain a large following.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 8:10:14 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Bogey78O

We need to ditch the Republicans and either follow the TEAparty, or come up with another TEAparty-like party that can gain a large following.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:10:26 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: tobyhill

So much for the Tea Party guys we sent up there holding their ground and putting an end to this stuff. All the republicans griping about Romney need to be willing to admit that little reality.
I say shut the government down.

Remember, They are always conservative until they get elected. But sitting by and letting extreme liberals run with it by not showing up to polls is worse.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:11:51 AM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: tobyhill

oh how nice... we hear from Boehner - too bad he couldn’t deliver his own state


19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by blueplum
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To: tobyhill

The Republican House has “more flexibility now that the election is over”.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:12:18 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: Bogey78O
"Let it crash."

Speaking of crash. I see FR is back to its old slow self. Must be the hamsters quit once they realized their savior was reelected and they'd be taken care of for free.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 8:12:29 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Hans
I wish the House would take one of two paths.

1. Do nothing and let the country fall off the "fiscal cliff." And each and every day, come out and say that the President and the Senate won't cooperate.

2. Just pass a bill giving Obama the authority to borrow 500 trillion dollars. Let's just get it over with and pick up the pieces later.

22 posted on 11/07/2012 8:12:34 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: tobyhill

STFU Boehner!!! Worthless POS!


23 posted on 11/07/2012 8:13:06 AM PST by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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To: tobyhill

Agreed.

Let the whole thing burn to the ground and let the survivors attempt to start over and hopefully create a more viable system.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 8:13:07 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: tobyhill
The sad thing those who voted for zer0 thought the cliff could be avoided, if they were intelligent enough to even have had that thought. Whether or not Speaker John Boehner compromises, am doubtful the cliff can be avoided. One can only kick the can so far down the road till that can finds a cliff.

Taxes will go up for working Americans not just the rich. Could be as high (in the first year) as four to five thousand dollars for each family. This will be the middle class burden in taxes. The rich will suffer too and the net effect will be many more less jobs. A nation cannot survive on unemployment, welfare, and free zer0 phones. If our nation comes out of this mess, and that is a big if, without collapse no matter the course taken, I will come here first to proclaim I was wrong.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 8:18:29 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: comebacknewt
What does he mean by “common ground?” Is it the usual give and take where we give everything and they take it?

This bus is going over a cliff no matter what we do. The only thing we can do is to make sure it takes as many Dems with it as it can.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 8:21:50 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hojczyk

I know there is no fight left in me, I am tired of fighting both sides of the aisle. Let the whole dam thing crash and burn around them.
I.
Don’t.
Care.
Anymore.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 8:24:48 AM PST by sheana
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To: no-to-illegals
Hey Boehner, Shove it.

Defund everything.

Problem solved.

What a bunch of gutless cowards.

28 posted on 11/07/2012 8:26:35 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: comebacknewt

If anyone here is in a blue state, county, or city... look to move ASAP. Because when that cliff happens they’ll be looking towards those who work and earn money to pay for their plans. If you’re a Republican in the New England states, then you’d be insane to stick around. Liberal economic policies coupled with liberal crime policy will leave you robbed on both ends.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 8:26:45 AM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Fedupwithit
You're right. I'm about done with it. Let the sequestration happen. Maybe the sooner this house of cards collapses the better. The people who voted for this crap should be the first ones to suffer its consequences. I just hope I and everyone else here who sees this can protect themselves and their loved ones as best they can.

I am meeting with my financial adviser next week and would appreciate any constructive suggestions you all might have. I have read everything from buying gold to buying bullets, planting gardens to finding an island somewhere to hide out on. What I am looking for is some reasonable way to preserve what I have worked a lifetime to acquire and pass on to my progeny, without having to pull out all the roots and head for the hills (although I know it may come down to that).

30 posted on 11/07/2012 8:28:39 AM PST by chimera
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To: All
The utter contempt I feel for 50% of this country is palpable. I am willing to suffer to watch them feel the pain they have wrought on this country.
31 posted on 11/07/2012 8:30:05 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Floratina

Indeed. They want a crash, give ‘em the crash.

It won’t help if Boner “works with the president” to “try to avert the fiscal cliff”.

The crash will happen, regardless, because the political will to do what is necessary to avoid the crash simply does not exist.

“Conductor! The train’s heading for a cliff! Should we apply the brakes?”

“That will make everyone really uncomfortable in the passenger cars. Better ask them, first.”

“They said ‘no’ to the brakes.”

“OK, full speed ahead!”


32 posted on 11/07/2012 8:30:20 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill
Let 'er crash!

In addition, any Republican who can retire should do so immediately, any in the military should leave as fast as possible, any underwater on their mortgages should walk away, and any facing bankruptcy should go ahead and file.

We'll see how many obamaphones can be purchased then.

33 posted on 11/07/2012 8:31:26 AM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: tobyhill

In some ways I wish they had the house as well so that it is all their fault and they have no room to blame-shift. If we are going down anyway, I hope it is searingly clear like a branding iron who took us there.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 8:32:58 AM PST by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: chimera; Jonty30

I liked this advice from Jonty30;

As somebody said, skills are worth more than gold. You can trade skills more easily and they are far more portable than gold or anything else.

Your wealth should be tied up in things you can use, like clothes, food, tools. Having it tied in some sort of financial arrangement, whether it be bonds or gold or whatever, is not as valuable if nobody is buying.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 8:33:52 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: basil

So is there some movement afoot about making the “T.E.A.” party groups around the country into a viable political party? The Republican party has proven to be be highly unreliable, and in fact perfidious to the extreme.

And there is no possibility of forming any kind of alliance with the other major political party in this country. That is a bridge burned long ago.

This may involve active participation in creating a new country in the “flyover country” that lies between the northeast corridor and the Left Coast. Our founding documents should include both the original Declaration of Independence with very little revision, and a slightly revised Constitution based largely on the original, but without references to any human as “three-fifths” of a person. “Life, Liberty and Property ownership” would substitute for the “Pursuit of Happiness”, which was code word for property ownership, but without declaring the ownership of “three-fifths” of another human being. The Bill of Rights would be written into the body of the Constitution, and each of the succeeding admendments would be considered on their own merits, some of which are moot, and others of which would be adopted into the text of the updated Constitution.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 8:34:31 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: tobyhill

What a joke. If democrats could compromise we wouldn’t have this mess.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 8:38:19 AM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: alloysteel

That al sounds like a good start to me.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 8:42:22 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: tobyhill

:: a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that are scheduled for 2013. ::

No! Obamugabe’s fiscal policies are unAmerican and grid-lock should prevail. A government that funds a national economy funds itself (churns its own equity)!

Let it all come crashing down on Obamugabe’s watch; that’s an election strategy.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:03 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: basil

Well, don’t invite ANYONE from New England to help build it!


40 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:25 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: tobyhill
Boehner is a dead man walking.

The enemy is Obama.

If he doesn't compromise with the enemy, then he and that "Tea Party" house will be made the scapegoats sending the nation over the fiscal cliff and chances are he will lose the house albeit honorably fighting the enemy to his political death.

If he compromises, then he will get NO CREDIT from anyone and go down dishonorably because those who have supported the Republican cause have no enthusiasm for those who have made concessions to the enemy.

Its up to you Johnny boy to write your own political epitaph, your lost the house fighting honorably or you lost the house by appeasing the common enemy.

41 posted on 11/07/2012 8:48:32 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: riri

“The utter contempt I feel for 50% of this country is palpable. I am willing to suffer to watch them feel the pain they have wrought on this country.”

You read my mind! How did you do that?


42 posted on 11/07/2012 8:49:01 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: basil

Let it crash. It’s time for a big dose of reality for these idiots who voted for this guy.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 8:49:20 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Hey-—I’m a Texan—I don’t even know anyone in New England—LOL!

Personally, I think it’s time to close all Texas borders, kick all the liberals out, and form our own country. Legend says we can do this—but it make take some doing....


44 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:51 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: tobyhill

You broke it, you bought it.

Burn, baby, burn.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 8:53:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: tobyhill
If the roles were reversed the Dems would be using the bully pulpit of the house
to throw every bill they could at the Pres and Senate. No matter who has the MSM
in their pocket, the House is the House and the Repubs for the last two years have
not used one single bully to achieve any agenda.

If Boehner wants to cave then he should step aside and allow someone else to
take command for the rough seas ahead. Boehner was Drunk again last night BTW,
and also Drunk at the convention, plastered DRUNK!!!


Hey Boehner, Compromise works both ways you Drunk POS, and if you go with the Democrats
there will be no difference and no more reason for voters to Vote Republican.

Pass 20 bills a week and put them up on the INTERNET. Ever heard of that Boehner, the INTERNET?
Or are you to slobbering drunk to pay attention due to your cushy job.

46 posted on 11/07/2012 9:01:12 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: tobyhill

nothing but a bunch of gutless weasels in 3 piece suits. presumptuous, pandering and par for the course.. it’s why O has so much sway on The Hill., they relate well..


47 posted on 11/07/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: tobyhill

Stick your common ground where the sun don’t shine Boehner!!! Damn it!!!...When will you idiots learn???


48 posted on 11/07/2012 9:05:55 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Biblebelter

A terrible foreboding warning to Boehner, all Republicans, and America. True, though!


49 posted on 11/07/2012 9:13:31 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama & company = Fiscal cliff

The sheep have voted.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 9:39:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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