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Vanity: GOP had its chance. Time for the TEA Party in 2016.
self | Nov. 7, 2012 | generally

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:02:34 AM PST by generally

The Republican party has put forth candidate after candidate who is a moderate appeaser. How's that been workin' out for ya?

It is time to run a true conservative.

The GOP keeps telling us that we will split the vote and lose if we run a third party candidate. Well, we didn't and we lost anyway.

I'd rather go down fighting, than go down appeasing.


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:02:40 AM PST by generally
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To: generally

Give us a realistic name today, not after the 2016 primary - who?


2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:05:24 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: generally

State Governors need to stand up and call for mass civil disobedience against intolerable regulations instituted by federal apparatchiks

The States can dismantle DC, call for a Constitutional Convention, and move the Capitol out of DC and away from the bloodsuckers in Arlington.

This Republic will fall due to Universal Suffrage in any event, only question is whether we start the reset now or wait until the complete collapse and then start picking up the pieces.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:05:30 AM PST by Rome2000 (NO ONE IN ROMNEYS DIRECT LINE HAS EVER SERVED THE UNITED STATES IN UNIFORM 170 YEARS)
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To: generally

Tea Party, conservatism, it’s a brand new day. America does not want it. America wants communism. A true conservative will get trounced. I used to believe otherwise but the writing is on the wall.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:06:11 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: generally

bump


5 posted on 11/07/2012 4:06:57 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: generally

Oh barf! Did everyone support Romney sufficiently?

I’m mad at everyone who did not support him 100%


6 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:08 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: generally

that worked well for Akin and Mourdock.....


7 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:20 AM PST by martinidon
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To: generally

2016? Obama with the assistance of the media , voters have changed the whole ballgame here. If there is a election in 2016 will be for show only. In the next few months it will be a whole different govt. Obama needed this election to complete it.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:50 AM PST by waxer1 (Don't vote for revenge. Vote for love of country-Mitt Romney)
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To: Perdogg

Whatever, whoever.... the GOP is dead by its own hand


9 posted on 11/07/2012 4:08:12 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: generally

To be honest, the Tea Party has supported some really awful candidates. For example, Mourdock in Indiana. What makes you think it will get better?


10 posted on 11/07/2012 4:08:31 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: generally

It’s not that Romney wasn’t “Conservative” enough. The freeloaders dominate the electorate.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 4:08:38 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: BunnySlippers
Oh barf! Did everyone support Romney sufficiently?

I am starting to wonder.... it looks like a significant number of Republicans stayed home, according to what I have read here on FR. If that is the case, I am wondering about the "Mormon" thing. Perhaps voting for a Mormon was just too much for many Republicans, so they sat this one out? Curious numbers coming out of this election...

12 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:16 AM PST by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: generally

The majority have spoken. They’d rather take than earn.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:59 AM PST by RangerM
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To: generally

Agree.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:47 AM PST by OldNewYork
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To: popdonnelly

“To be honest, the Tea Party has supported some really awful candidates. For example, Mourdock in Indiana. What makes you think it will get better?”

Mourdock and Akin were a checklist conservative who assumed he could win simply by running in a red state and repeat talking points. We need someone who really knows how to present his case...or shut up if he can’t.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:01 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ryan71
Tea Party, conservatism, it’s a brand new day. America does not want it. America wants communism. A true conservative will get trounced. I used to believe otherwise but the writing is on the wall.

I agree. This was the last chance-- the tipping point. It's over now. There's no going back without a lot of bad things happening. All we can do at this point is to come up with our own strategies to limit the damage to our personal existences.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:06 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's. sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: ryan71

“A true conservative will get trounced”

You are correct, I think. A true conservative, living by true constitutional principles of government would not be elected, and indeed, would not even get nominated.

Government must spectacularly fail to deliver all the goodies to a large enough segment of the population for folks to come to believe in the limits of government - the hard way.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ryan71
I am 66 years old, and this is the first time my vote and ideals don't matter. I am not a quitter but I have fought a good fight, and realize that there are not enough people in this country that share my ideals. My vote no longer counts for anything.

I live in MD, and am now represented by Elijah Cummings due to a redistricting that stays in place. People is this country have turned left, and there is no way we can turn it back.

I am finished with the political process. What will be will be.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:51 AM PST by gramho12
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To: generally
It's too late. Romney said it's time to end the "partisan bickering and do the people's business". And Obama is going to reach out to Romney, our leader, to see how the parties can cooperate.

The "people's business", it's gonna get done!

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

19 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:06 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: generally

“I’d rather go down fighting, than go down appeasing.”

Hear! Hear!


20 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:52 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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I cannot wait for Akin to run for president! He’ll be so great. We’ll forget the establishment, and pick a grassroots candidate instead, because then, there will be a much better chance for victory! I mean, it’s not like the “Mr. Grassroots (WE DON’T NEED THE ESTABLISHMENT!)” candidate just lost to one of the weakest senators in history, who had voted for Obamacare against the wishes of her state, and who had funneled federal money to her husband. Our guy won, right?


21 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:01 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: generally
We can blame Rush Limbaugh.
We can blame the Republican Party.
We can blame the LSM.
We can blame Mitt Romney.
We can blame the Washington Redskins.

WE LOST.
We lost because we now have over 50% on the dole and will vote with the LIBS.
It is as simple as that.
Yes I was wrong. I guaranteed a Romney win. I did not realize how many stupid liberals we had. .. . .

22 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:14 AM PST by DeaconRed (Kenya village will not get their idiot back. . . .)
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To: ryan71

I truly beleive this was it. My God the last 4 years was bad enough. The next 4 is going to be a nightmare.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:19 AM PST by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: MRadtke

Women protecting their right to kill babies won it for Obama.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: generally

because manipulating the primary system to prop-up fringe candidates who can’t defeat weak incumbents has worked out so well so we should continue it?


25 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:54 AM PST by newnhdad (USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: gramho12
I am not a quitter but I have fought a good fight, and realize that there are not enough people in this country that share my ideals.

For everybody that is still raring to go. Have a few more babies and raise them to "share your ideals".

26 posted on 11/07/2012 4:16:15 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: generally

Whatever party the conservatives use, as long as there is widespread cheating and undercounting of conservative votes, theen there is no winning.

NONE.

The electoral process is broken and is hijacked. And we ignore it.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 4:16:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (STOP THE GREAT O-PRESSION TODAY!!!!)
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To: MRadtke

“It’s not that Romney wasn’t ‘Conservative’ enough. The freeloaders dominate the electorate.”

That’s a fact. We reached the tipping point, and the new reality is that the users and takers outnumber the producers and makers. The transformation from a constitutional republic to a socialist nanny-state is complete.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 4:17:54 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Paradox

If I told you what I heard from the other end of the phone when I made Romney calls here in Nevada, then you’d run screaming around your house.

The GOP appeals to so many different kinds of folks at all ends of the spectrum, but they refuse to unify behind one candidate for one reason or another to the point where they hate the candidate more than the opposition.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:21 AM PST by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: generally
The reason Obama was reelected was because no American has felt the pain yet of paying back the debt. Wall street is still going strong because they know that QE 4 is still in the mix.
I say we collapse the system. Go apply for everything government offers if you possibly can.
Nothing will change if everyone is fat and happy.
Teach your children manners and morality. Teach them there are evil people in this world and raise them accordingly.
Don't let your children join the military even if you believe it is the right thing to do. We have a president who won't watch their back. Don't let your children be put in that situation and end up dead.
When people have had enough they will react.
Keep up the good fight. It has just begun.
30 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:21 AM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: newnhdad
who can’t defeat weak incumbents

...or even win their own home states:

Massachusetts
Michigan
Wisconsin

31 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:50 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Paradox
I think the bigger issue is that a lot of conservatives simply saw through Romney because he was so transparent. It's hard to convince principled conservatives about the urgency of your cause when the candidate the so-called "conservative" party nominates has a well-documented track record of supporting nearly everything in his opponent's agenda anyway.

Hell -- look what happened right here on FreeRepublic. I understand why he did it, but the founder of this site was adamant that he'd never support Romney as recently as a few months ago. Most people here fell into line down the stretch, for obvious reasons ... but the tightening of this race in recent weeks (since the first debate, really) helped mask the fact that a lot of Romney's support was lukewarm at best.

32 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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Conservatives stayed home.
60M for McCain, 56M for Romney.
Sarah would have won in a walk.

IT’S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:09 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: Paradox

I’m not even sure we didn’t win! How’s about that?


34 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:12 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: lucky american
We have a president who won't watch their back.

But he has ensured that there will now be loathsome people in the military that will take lecherous interest in their backsides.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:29 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: generally

Still waiting for a name.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:35 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: popdonnelly

If we can’t get better representation than Lugar for the GOP from Indiana, the GOP does need to go into the dustbin of history.

I only know of Mourdock’s extreme faux pas late in the campaign and see that you’re from Indiana. I’d be curious, what else (yes, I know, otherwise how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln) made him a bad candidate?


37 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: popdonnelly

I am from Indiana, and Mourdock was a poor candidate. He was a very unappealing candidate in many ways. He lost because he beat Lugar, but I suspect he beat Lugar because Dems voted for him in the primary. They then trapped him on the abortion-rape issue because they knew it would work. Same thing as Akin.

Tea Party shot itself in the foot by getting off the original message.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:27 AM PST by dforest
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To: DeaconRed

You are exactly right, it really is just that simple. It is the American people, nothing else.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:51 AM PST by Reddon
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To: ryan71
Unfortunately you're right. If someone most people consider a moderate and other people consider a liberal can't win against the party of ‘free stuff’ how on God's green earth can someone who is more conservative than Romney win?

The only way Republicans can ever win again is to find someone that will lie to the people out of both sides of their face and their ass, promise the moon to them and then do the opposite if he gets elected. Controlling the media would also be necessary.

40 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:56 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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Tea partier Kerry Bentivolio won the seat vacated by Thad McCotter last night. McCotter was well liked among conservatives but he was quite the RINO in many respects.

Apparently a tea partier can win in a moderate district. (50.7/44.4)


41 posted on 11/07/2012 4:25:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ryan71

I agree. The moochers and their enablers have overrun us.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 4:25:52 AM PST by PogySailor (Welcome to the Peoples Republic of North America)
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To: generally

ahahhaah A CONSERVATIVE???????????

In a country that just sent a man back to office who raised taxes, raised the debt, raised gas prices, lost jobs, increased welfare and food stamps, and passed a HC bill that is gonna raise insurance premiums up to 35% for some people, is pro amnesty, pro late term tax payer funded abortion, pro gay marriage, and you think a CONSERVATIVE has a chance in this new country we have now?

lmao

okay.

We’re done.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 4:26:12 AM PST by snarkytart
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ahahhaah A CONSERVATIVE???????????

In a country that just sent a man back to office who raised taxes, raised the debt, raised gas prices, lost jobs, increased welfare and food stamps, and passed a HC bill that is gonna raise insurance premiums up to 35% for some people, is pro amnesty, pro late term tax payer funded abortion, pro gay marriage, and you think a CONSERVATIVE has a chance in this new country we have now?

lmao

okay.

We’re done.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 4:26:43 AM PST by snarkytart
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America was given a clear choice yesterday: FREEDOM or FREE STUFF.

Free stuff won and that pretty tells you that the great experiment is over.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:28 AM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: DeaconRed

Don’t beat yourself up, I was right there with you.

Based on what I was seeing I cannot fathom how Romney lost.

His crowds were on fire. He stayed positive. He looked presidential.

Obama looked angry, petty and defeated. Worse, he looked like he KNEW he was defeated.

Wow.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:34 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: ought-six
“It’s not that Romney wasn’t ‘Conservative’ enough. The freeloaders dominate the electorate.” You're right. The "Perfect conservative" only would have got beaten worse. Today's American electorate would not elect Ronald Reagan.
47 posted on 11/07/2012 4:29:48 AM PST by Reddon
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48 posted on 11/07/2012 4:30:07 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GeronL

Whatever, whoever.... the GOP is dead by its own hand
.

They are all p*ssies for not standing up against all the leftest bullshit when they had a chance and embracing illegals and more government. This is what they get. They’ve never been on our side. Never. Come to think of it they were doing whatever gave them more power and money. Not so much whimps as selfish.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 4:31:17 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

sad to say the Dems have created themselves a majority of ignorant and dependent people who will continually vote them in. If conservatives don’t start infiltrating and change the education and media in this country we will have a hard time electing even a RINO like Romney.
A less and less moral country full of people who vote for who they see as “likeable” (let me guess why the media even promoted this as a measure of a candidate) this is what we get.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:05 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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