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Alabama Voters Nullify Obamacare Mandates
Tenth Amendment Center ^ | November 7, 2012 | John Michaels

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:45:24 AM PST by Maurice Tift

  

This summer the Supreme Court ruled that the Obama Administration’s health care mandates to be constitutional as a tax. Today, the people of the state of Alabama told the Supreme Court to shove it!

   In a Majority vote of 56%-44% (with 46% reported), the People of Alabama passed Amendment 6, which reads:

   An amendment to the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, to prohibit any person, employer, or health care provider from being compelled to participate in any health care system.

   In the weeks leading up to the vote, there were overwhelming attempts by the media and the so-called political class to make the amendment seem irrelevant.

   Many were saying that the vote was of no consequence. But, voters in Alabama stood strong with their beliefs.

   Only 15 minutes after the polls closed the Amendment 6, vote was off to an early lead showing 63% in favor, and support held nearly as strong throughout the final count.

   Alabama is the 11th state to have passed similar legislation. Missouri and Arizona voters were first and second in 2010. But Alabama is the first to have passed it since the Supreme Court ruling this summer.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: al2012; alabama; montana; nullification; obamacare
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The good news is harder to find. But it's very good news and it happened in Montana as well.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:45:32 AM PST by Maurice Tift
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To: Maurice Tift

They can’t do this. The federal government will force it. States rights are a thing of the pass. Nice try though, guys.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:36 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Maurice Tift

So did Wyoming with 77% of the vote.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:49 AM PST by rwh
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To: Viennacon

Well I guess it will have to go to court and on to the Supreme court. I think Obama should be put on medicare along with large wife only the best for our President.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:03 AM PST by funfan
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To: Maurice Tift

Is it as toothless as some say?


5 posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:48 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: Maurice Tift

Good for them!!!


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:54:48 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: Viennacon

This is a super serious issue. States need to exert their rights. That is yet another argument for why I voted for marijuana here in Wa.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 1:56:22 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: Maurice Tift

Good luck with that Alabama, it’ll be interesting to see how the obama’s fedgov monster is going to punish you for going against his wishes.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 1:56:47 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Maurice Tift

Glad to hear it!

And that traitor, John Roberts, nevertheless left a little time bomb for the states to use: the feds CANNOT “blackmail” the states into implementing Obamacare and setting up the state-run health insurance exchanges by threatening to withhold other federal monies normally due the states (medicaid, education, highways, whatever).

Rick Perry of Texas claimed that he would never establish the publicly run health exchanges in his state. Does anyone know what’s become of that in Texas?


9 posted on 11/07/2012 1:58:42 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Viennacon

yup.

States no longer have any real relevance. Neither does Congress come to think of it.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:59:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rwh
   So did Wyoming with 77% of the vote.

  Excellent and 77% is pretty serious.
11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:59:22 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Maurice Tift

Brilliant! And if the parasites want ObamaCare, they can move to the Blue States and attach themselves to their health care.

The conservative states should start tightening the screws on all their welfare expenditures and drive their welfare rolls down. Obama will provide in the Communist states that vote for him, so all should go swimmingly.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:59:59 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: MarMema

did you vote to legalize kiddie porn and child marriage too??

Cuz states rights, dude.... pass the munchies.....

and next time we can legalize crack and meth!! high five!!

losers


13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:01:02 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GoodDay

He probably won’t have to, because we have a weak Governor system. The entire “Cabinet” is elected state-wide and one of the others is probably in charge of that.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:02:10 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GoodDay
   the feds CANNOT “blackmail” the states into implementing Obamacare and setting up the state-run health insurance exchanges by threatening to withhold other federal monies normally due the states (medicaid, education, highways, whatever).

  more good news for the liberty movement
15 posted on 11/07/2012 2:03:49 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Maurice Tift

Thank you for the good news.

We have some state houses, we have the U.S. We should fight with every tool we have.

I hope the House revolts. If they can go around it, ok, but make them go around it.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 2:05:54 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: txrefugee

I like your thinking. It’s time we creatively use every governmental tool we have on every level to thwart the monster.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 2:08:50 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: GoodDay

There are other ways to pressure States. Some that Obama has already used are targeted EPA suits and regulatory interpretations against industries in Texas.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:09 AM PST by buwaya
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To: GoodDay

There are other ways to pressure States. Some that Obama has already used are targeted EPA suits and regulatory interpretations against industries in Texas.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:20 AM PST by buwaya
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To: GeronL
It is amazing how uneducated this forum is on this issue. You may want to check into some of the other supporters of the initiative here in Wa. and why they have backed it.

Registered sponsors for the measure include: John McKay, former U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Washington; Peter Holmes, Seattle city attorney; Kim Marie Thorburn MD and MPH, former director of the Spokane Regional Health District; and travel writer Rick Steves.[1] Other sponsors include state representative for the 36th district Mary Lou Dickerson, immediate past president of the Washington State Bar Association Salvador A. Mungia, past president of the Washington State Bar Association Mark Johnson, former King County health official Robert W. Wood MD, University of Washington School of Social Work professor emeritus

20 posted on 11/07/2012 2:12:27 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: MarMema

I could really care less what the Meth state thinks

fall into the ocean or something

It’s really sad you are allowed to even have children in some of these states


21 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:07 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Maurice Tift

The feds will find other ways to force them, such as by withholding other federal monies. When that becomes an emotionalized campaign issue in the state, the people will change out the state govt for Christie-like RINOs or worse.

For a peaceful, legal states’ rights movement to flourish, a supermajority of people need to love liberty and virtue more than redistribution. Anyone see that happening in this decade after witnessing last night?


22 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:14 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Maurice Tift
All of these are toothless if the states are going to spend huge amounts of money, and time defending everything they do in the broken system. It's time to tell the federal government they will not obey blatantly unconstitutional laws and mandates put on them, and they will not waste their time in courts. The feds can grant the states their freedom or try to force their tyranny on the state with violence.
23 posted on 11/07/2012 2:17:28 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (We must start working outside the broken, corrupt, and unconstitutional system to save this nation.)
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To: GeronL

“It’s really sad you are allowed to even have children in some of these states”

Kids? After all the free birth control and abortion I doubt we’ll see too many liberals having kids.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 2:22:10 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: MarMema

“This is a super serious issue. States need to exert their rights. That is yet another argument for why I voted for marijuana here in Wa.”

You’ll have your pot but you won’t be able to do much else. Just smoke your unemployed life away and all will be well.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:36 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Maurice Tift

Great.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 2:26:41 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: D-fendr

In Michigan we crushed the union ballot proposals as well as the one that would have created a constitutional amendment requiring us to erect thousands of windmills.

Weird numbers all around.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 2:26:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ari-freedom

How brilliant of you. I probably make more money than you do and have no plan to consume marijuana.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 2:29:05 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: cripplecreek

At least we won’t have to hear about that stupid bridge 24/7 for a while. I’m surprised the collective bargaining prop went down- good.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 2:31:17 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: MarMema
This is a super serious issue. States need to exert their rights.

If this is upheld anywhere, or if any state is willing to fight Leviathan over this, I'm going there.

Sweet Home Alabama...

30 posted on 11/07/2012 2:33:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ari-freedom
"Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success," says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. "It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does." Compared to the European Union and the U.S., Portugal's drug use numbers are impressive. Following decriminalization, Portugal had the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the E.U.: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%.
31 posted on 11/07/2012 2:34:18 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Me too. Bring it feds. I am so all about states right now.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 2:35:04 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: Mad_as_heck

It just seems weird to me that we could defeat the union proposals so soundly yet have the state go to Obama and Stabenow. I guess lots of democrats voted straight ticket and ignored the ballot proposals.

Personally I think its time to consider awarding our electoral votes by congressional district like we did in the primary.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 2:38:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GoodDay

“Rick Perry of Texas claimed that he would never establish the publicly run health exchanges in his state. Does anyone know what’s become of that in Texas?”

Nothing’s changed. Perry’s been true to his word and defunded planned parenthood as well. Obama retaliated by stopping funding for the entire woman’s health program that everyone else gets.

Perry told him to take a long walk off a short pier.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 2:53:36 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: cripplecreek

“defeat the union proposals so soundly yet have the state go to Obama and Stabenow”

It’s the candidate not the policies that are the problem. Romney had much less support everywhere.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 2:55:33 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: MarMema

I’m doubling down on fighting the commies. I’ve had it.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 2:55:48 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Probably not. I personally think it is time to have a serious discussion about some form of secession.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 2:57:01 AM PST by MachIV
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Just out of curiosity...how will you fight them? Serious question. I know one thing.....it’s not going to happen at the ballot box anymore. Demographic changes Pat Buchanan warned us about have kicked in and unless that is reversed(Don’t see that happening), the ballot box is a worthless lost cause.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:48 AM PST by MachIV
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
If this is upheld anywhere, or if any state is willing to fight Leviathan over this, I'm going there.

There needs to be a major demographic shift in this country...conservatives need to quit beating their heads against the wall in BLUE states, and move to RED states now. Cancel your cable, and get your children out of public schools NOW.

39 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:08 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MarMema
  I agree with you on 502 for many reasons.

(1) I'm OK with federal laws for treason, counterfeiting and piracy on the high seas, but I think most other things should be left to the states. (The founders had it right)

(2) The Drug War has had tragic consequences

(3) Prohibition leads to unintended consequences

(4) The Drug War is not compatible with Liberty. It is not compatible with free people living in a free country.

and I encourage everyone to take a look at "The Freeman - Ideas on Liberty"
40 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:04 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
It’s the candidate not the policies that are the problem. Romney had much less support everywhere.

This is true. Lots of Santorum support in Michigan during the primary which led to a tie that was broken by a late night rule change that gave Romney 1 more vote.

The simple fact is that Romney had his worst primary ever in Michigan this year. In 08 Romney won the primary over McCain by about 10%. This year he "won" by a fraction of a percent over Santorum.
41 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: JCBreckenridge

>>>>”Perry told him to take a long walk off a short pier.”

I LIKE that guy! I’m definitely moving to Texas!


42 posted on 11/07/2012 3:37:30 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: MachIV
Just out of curiosity...how will you fight them? Serious question.

The two most important things that we CAN do, 100%, is to get our children out of the godless, communist schools, and to boycott the media.

Can you imagine the message it would send if conservatives pulled their kids out of the schoolag archipelago?

We managed to homeschool one of our children all the way through. My wife sent our other daughter to govt school for the first time this year. I'm going to fight harder to get her out. The war begins at home. Remember what Jesus said about that.

I will cut off the outspoken Obama-supporting members of the family here in America.

My mom was from the UK (I've seen the disaster of national health) and my dad from Poland. I have card-carrying commies on both sides of the family overseas, so I know what communism is. And I know what communists are. My uncle, a labor union leader, is a sewer rat.

I will be more outspoken about politics. "Are you a Republican or a communist?", etc.

I'm also considering moving to a red state, especially one that will fight Obamacare.

Most importantly, I have to improve my prayer life.

And... I'm also looking for suggestions. I'm going to turn my negative energy in a positive direction.

43 posted on 11/07/2012 3:40:19 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: GoodDay

The effect of not having a federally funded women’s health program in the state has been exactly nil. Will be an interesting 4 years.

I was wrong about Perry. I didn’t think he had the balls to stand up to Obamacare. But, he’s been awesome. His AG is presently held up in court trying to finish off PP.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 3:42:22 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

God Bless You. I have little family, but most all live in the same or neighboring red states of Indiana and Kentucky. Advice...don’t move to Kentucky. It votes Republican for national offices(except here in Louisville), but votes mostly Democrat at state levels(they want both guns and welfare...go figure).

Alot of discussion about moving to Texas. I fear Texas will eventually go blue(out of control border). Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming or the Dakotas are promising. One warning about Wyoming....I love the area but it’s the closest thing to being on the moon you’ll ever imagine in North America. Rural isn’t the word for Wyoming......absolute desolation is more like it. There are more prong horn deer in Wyoming than there are people. Good Luck.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 3:46:11 AM PST by MachIV
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To: MachIV

Go to Alabama or Mississippi . With their history, who would have ever thought that these would be the most free states of the union. Is Secession an option?


46 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:36 AM PST by ohioman
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To: who knows what evil?

“move to RED states now.”

Yes! Concentrating our forces into secure areas is a good start. From there we can build out and take more territory. Confronting the criminal fascist syndicate with 25 strong patriot states is a nightmare that the leftists are incapable of handling. It’s time to start the harassment of the fascist federal bureaucrats to find their weaknesses and exploit them.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 4:58:21 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Maurice Tift

OK.

You get Federally run exchanges instead.

This is a “win”?


48 posted on 11/07/2012 5:01:07 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
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To: ari-freedom

Liberals don’t have kids... too messy, too disruptive in their latte lives.

They simply indoctrinate the kids that YOU have and support.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MachIV
Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming or the Dakotas are promising.

I'm thinking about Idaho, eventually. The conservative members of the family, living in MA, CT, and NJ are nearing retirement age, and we're looking for a place to settle together.

We'll survive in clans. Those without family are going to be wards of the state. Sad.

50 posted on 11/07/2012 5:29:15 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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