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Mitt Romney has fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008! Republicans stayed home
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Posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:10 AM PST by Arthurio

Mitt Romney has fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008! Republicans stayed home!

As of right now, Romney has close to 56,000,000 votes nationwide. In 2008, John McCain had nearly 60,000,000 votes. (Per Wikipedia)

It looks like if all the people who voted for McCain turned out again and voted for Romney, we would have been rid of the Kenyan once and for all.

People stayed home.

It looks like all the Freepers who said they'd never vote for Mitt were not making idle threats


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:16 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Color me skeptical.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:16:17 AM PST by null and void (Day 1387 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: Arthurio

And look at where staying home has gotten us. Not just a president. A complete change to this country.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:16:44 AM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Arthurio

Obama won in 2008 69 mil to 59 mil.

Right now it is 54 mil to 53 mil Obama leading.

There must be a lot of votes left uncounted before we can say where Romney’s totals will end up.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:17:24 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

Wow, what a sad piece of knowledge to know.

Why would so many who should vote Republican in this case not vote?


5 posted on 11/07/2012 1:18:20 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Arthurio

This is impossible. The anti-Obama vote alone should have increased numbers for the GOP.

Less than McCain in a year where we ran against hope and change with a crappy candidate for a GOP electorate suffering from Bush fatigue?

What am I missing here?


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:18:23 AM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Arthurio

“It looks like all the Freepers who said they’d never vote for Mitt were not making idle threats”

Not just freepers. Freepers (and most other popular conservative online sites) didn’t understand how so many people were for Huckabee in 2008. We don’t even understand our own, let alone the rest of America.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 1:18:37 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Arthurio
who says fewer pubs voted?....isn't that convenient?....if the pub votes aren't counted, then they didn't vote?...

I'm suggesting that pub votes were tossed or changed...

there was true momentum and true numbers out there for Romney...

fewer voters?....hardly...every report around the country said the polls were packed....

fraud that will ever be proven or even investigated...

8 posted on 11/07/2012 1:18:42 AM PST by cherry
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To: null and void

Color me skeptical too


9 posted on 11/07/2012 1:19:01 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Arthurio

It will take days to count the last few percents in the big states


10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arthurio

I don’t buy it. There were long lines reported at polling places everywhere.

They couldn’t have all been Dems.

The Dems have managed to take voter fraud to a new level. We need to use paper ballots that are scanned. I don’t trust the machines.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:13 AM PST by FUBO
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To: null and void
Color me convinced 0bama executed a nationwide voter fraud scheme, using ACORN, black panthers and the unions with his news media happily skewing the numbers while burying stories harmful to 0bama.

I thought Eric Holder was in the DOJ basement shredding documents at the SUPERSHREDDER 5000 while all along he was organizing voter fraud on a national scale.

12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:17 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Arthurio

There is about 10-12 percent of the country’s voters not tallied yet into the totals.

I think Romney will end up with what Mccain got or slightly more, while Obama is getting far less than he did in 2008.

We just don’t have any more voters. The turnout was +6 Dem and that was with less people voting Obama and staying home.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:40 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: volunbeer
What am I missing here?

MASSIVE fraud, for starters, there were multiple reports in multiple states of electronic voting machines repeatedly registering a Romney vote as an Obama vote.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:48 AM PST by null and void (Day 1387 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: Arthurio

I voted, I held my nose and voted for a milktoast moderate republican which I vowed to myself I would never do again.

Of course the republicans stayed home, you gave them nothing to vote for

On top of that, Romney never made the sale, never made a clear cut case for voting for him - much less persuade obummer voters to switch and vote for him


15 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:58 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - ^_^)
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To: FUBO

“The Dems have managed to take voter fraud to a new level. We need to use paper ballots that are scanned. I don’t trust the machines.”

I don’t trust Dems, period. They’ll always find a way.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 1:23:03 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“On top of that, Romney never made the sale, never made a clear cut case for voting for him - much less persuade obummer voters to switch and vote for him”

And was too nice to make the case against Obama.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:11 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Arthurio

I call BullShit! I stood in the cold for an HOUR to vote here in Va. I have lived here 20 years and voted every election and primary. I HAVE NEVER, REPEAT NEVER, had to wait in line here. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! I knew something was up at 6:30 AM yesterday.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 1:24:21 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

A lot of the west coast is still out, including half of California.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:40 AM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Oh, now I get it.. Voter fraud where votes aren't manufactured, they're DESTROYED if they're for Romney. This explains the lower vote total for Romney than for McCain in 2008. Makes perfect sense. Much easier to destroy votes (paper and via electronic purging) than to fabricate votes. Simply BRILLIANT!
20 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:56 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

bump!!


21 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: null and void

“MASSIVE fraud, for starters, there were multiple reports in multiple states of electronic voting machines repeatedly registering a Romney vote as an Obama vote.”

I suspect fraud but we need more proof. It would have to include the exit polls which back up the small Obama win.

So are you saying the machines switched votes on a large scale in many swing states, then the media purposely faked exit polls?

Sorry need proof but I’m willing to believe it.

For now it just seems there are more Dem voters than us plain and simple.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:06 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Arthurio

Yup.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:06 AM PST by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

AGREED. It’s all over but the counting, of the final provisional votes, of the disentangling of the hanging chads.

But, let’s face it, it’s over!

I feel so bad, I have a little grandson, my first,just 3 weeks old....what kind of country is this child going to grow up in?

I am just so sad tonight, so much sadder than in 2008.

I’m always a good one for “keep fighting”, but maybe our cause is really lost now. We’ll just sink down like the rest of the commie countries!


24 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:24 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Arthurio

Whatever.

Then I blame them.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:27 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: A CA Guy

They did. Their votes weren’t counted. Does ANYBODY believe folks who voted McCain DIDN’T vote GOP? Zero took notes from Hugo.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 1:28:07 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
But let's not look to the GOP-E who foisted Romney on us.

No, blame those who stood their ground on principles. I, for one, capitulated to the likes of you - and for what: I just postponed sending the message that must be sent to the GOP-E to break this cycle another election cycle.

They will put up another RINO in 2016.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 1:29:13 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: wastoute; Arthurio

It bears repeating the original premise of this thread is flawed.

There is 10-12 percent of the votes not yet counted. Romney is likely to match or better Mccain’s totals.

Sorry Arthurio but your Ohio numbers stunk and now you’re playing with these too soon as well.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:12 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Arthurio

I didn’t stay home and I didn’t vote for Mitt or Obama. I have the luxury of living in a non-swing state (its strong red state) so I voted my conscience like I have been saying all along. I left the GOP and voted for Virgil Goode.

Of all my friends, I only have one who did not vote today. She lives in Utah and didn’t see the point.

It is the GOP elites fault for putting forth Romney, we could have and SHOULD have done much better and for those that did stay home I think many who held their nose and voted for McCain said ‘never again’.

It is time to fire the entire GOP leadership.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:40 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Arthurio

Yep. A lot of people will write it off as voter fraud, but the realiity is many people simply weren’t going to vote for Mitt because of his liberal record.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:55 AM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: Arthurio

I was thinking the exact same thing. In 2008, Obama received somewhere north of 69 million votes, and McCain received over 59 million.

Right now Obama has almost 55 million and Romney has almost 54 million.

How the HECK did Obama lose almost 15 million votes and still pull off the win???

I would have NEVER thought that McCain would have received more votes. I was convinced that Romney would trounce that number.

Apparently neither side GOTV’d!!


31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:32:39 AM PST by alwaysontheright
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To: volunbeer

how do you think stolen votes would appear from 10,000 ft?

MANY early votes for Romney were simply scrapped.

another reason against early voting. just gives them time for proper sorting


32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:33:28 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: over3Owithabrain

93% of the vote counted.

We can expect at least 8 million more votes.

Romney will get close to 60 million, perhaps a little over.

The country has changed.

Conservatives probably increased their voter participation a little bit.

But the total number of Conservatives - voting or not - is not growing.

On the other hand, minorities and white Leftists continue to grow steadily.

It’s all about numbers in a democracy.

And the numbers say Conservatives are in deep trouble.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 1:35:08 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Arthurio

I suspect that those voting computers were calibrated so even though it looked like your were voting for Romney, it still counted as Zeros vote. I’m just sayin’...


34 posted on 11/07/2012 1:35:22 AM PST by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Pray for the America!)
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To: null and void

But doesn’t this also show Obama got less votes than 2008. One could hardly call that a mandate.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 1:35:35 AM PST by zt1053
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To: Arthurio
Blame the GOP-e....and even the voters in the primaries who would not get behind one candidate early on. blame the weak liberal candidate ..more people like government safety net so they went w/Obama. Blame that. Storm Sandy help Obama, fake jobs nos. did as well.. Talk radio 24/7 bashing obama causing the pity vote to kick in (revenge motivation)..
36 posted on 11/07/2012 1:36:28 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: wastoute

Does ANYBODY believe folks who voted McCain DIDN’T vote GOP?

- - - -
I held my nose and voted for McLame because of Palin and said never again.

This time I could not do that again. My vote didn’t matter anyway, I wasn’t in a swing state (solid red state and has been since the 1950’s) so I voted my conscience, which means I voted for McCain last time and not GOP this time, so yeah I believe it.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 1:38:24 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Arthurio

No, I don’t think Republicans stayed home as about 55% of eligible voters did cast their votes. Most elections rarely exceed 40% of the eligible voters casting their votes.

However, there was a group that probably did stay home and they were the Paulites. I know a bunch of them and many of them proudly pronouced that they didn’t cast their votes, so I suspect that a larger proportion of them, relative to their size, did stay home.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 1:39:05 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

I do understand. I DID stand my ground and my principles and caught a lot of flack for it, so much I have been off FR for several months other than to check my mail and the occiasional headlines.

We need to start NOW to get the RINOS out, but I fear that unless the GOP leadership changes, 2016 will be a repeat, the GOP elite will put up another RINO and most will fall in line like they did this time.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 1:41:02 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Arthurio; sickoflibs; over3Owithabrain; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; ...

All the vote is not in yet. 45% of Cali not in.

If indeed turnout of both sides in down that much, that’s interesting. Very interesting.

And lame, if indeed McCain’s pop vote number would have been enough this time or close to enough. Lack of anyone actually liking Romney was a problem.

Hey I didn’t want him to be nominated. Too bad no one worth a damn ran.

If you don’t think Newt or Perry would have been killed even worse tonight I don’t know what to say. And those liars are barley more conservative than Romney.

Scott Walker please. No more RINO parades. We need a proven CONSERVATIVE LEADER. Not slick liars who tea party it up when conveient for themselves and buddy up with the left behind the scenes. And not good people without the chops like Michelle Bachmann or Herman Cain.

And not blue blood RINO Governors from New England.

Anyone who did stay home, well, I disagree with your decision, big time. Romney is crap, but Obama is evil. But it only mattered if you live in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Wisconsin, exetera.

Still, everyone should vote, the popular vote is of symbolic and rhetorical importance.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 1:41:11 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: zt1053

Romney votes will be a little more than McCain when it’s all done.

Obama’s will be down a few million.

Problem is the difference is not enough to change the result of an Obama victory.

We simply do not have the votes. A few million people were turned off Obama and didn’t bother doing the hope/change thing this time. But we are capped at 60 million. And if we get a true conservative in there it will add votes but lose just as many of the “moderate” Republican voters.

We have a Catch 22 with warring camps within our party. They have a motley crew of disparate grievance groups who don’t get offended when the other parts of their coalition are pandered to.

In sum - we’re screwed and this was our last best hope and it will never shift back


41 posted on 11/07/2012 1:43:03 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Arthurio

isn’t it obvious yet that the election was manipulated by the crook in chief. Do you really think republicans stayed home after 2010


42 posted on 11/07/2012 1:44:23 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: over3Owithabrain

How could someone NOT go vote against Obama? Regardless of Mitt not being conservative enough. Four more years of this might end the Republic. 21 trillion in debt, amnesty, executive orders, 2 libs on Supreme Court? Game over.

Good point though re turnout being lower. People are giving up. Like the fake 8% unemployment when it’s really 15%, people are checking out of the democracy.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:24 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

How could he? His whole strategy was to attack and smear his opponents. Then when the Big Show came along he put the gloves on !!
I’m a Indie after today.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 1:47:59 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: Arthurio
But what about the “this is a huge election turnout”; “we have to keep the polls open” “numbers are up huge Republican over 2008”— all over the airwaves?

Where’d they all go? Even if they were turn coats and voted O,they aren't reflected in the totals. FRAUD on a huge scale?

45 posted on 11/07/2012 1:48:10 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: arderkrag

Bingo!


46 posted on 11/07/2012 1:48:54 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: wastoute

I agree, this doesn’t smell right at all. 2008 took a perfect storm of extremely high Democrat enthusiasm, independent cluelessness, and even a significant number of Republicans swept up in the “hope and change” and “historic presidency” nonsense to get Obama elected. That outcome should have been unreproducible especially given the continued lousy economy and the loss of Obama’s phony messiah aura.

Yet we’re to believe that in a year when Republicans clearly by all accounts turned out in huge numbers the result was the same? Nonsense. Not possible, especially given the huge difference in enthusiasm that every poll showed as well as a complete flip in voter ID, giving the Republicans a record party ID advantage. We’re really supposed to believe that none of those stark contrasts to 2008 made any difference?

I can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all, but the vote tallies and how they came down just felt artificial. There were no surprises that worked to Republicans’ advantage anywhere. No randomness, just a very neat and orderly “programmed” march toward a pre-determined Obama outcome.

I know half the country is crazy these days, but this was just too neat and tidy, all wrapped up with a bow on top.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:37 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Arthurio

It looks like the freepers that said that Romney would hurt turnout, were correct.

This took millions of disgruntled conservatives, not a handful of freepers.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 1:50:27 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Arthurio

The vote count is suspicious, because it doesn’t seem to add up at all. Everyone I’ve talked to says they have never seen so many people voting Republican before, and that’s often in places that were safe for Democrats.

In Washington Romney was slightly leading for awhile, and then all of a sudden Romney added something on the order of about 100,000 votes while Obama added over 600,000 votes. All voting in Wqashington is now by USPS Mail. There are no longer any polling places. It looked very very suspicious.

King County (Seattle) is known for cooking up just as many paper ballots as were needed to win the Governor’s seat everytime some more Republican ballots were recoveered from missing absentee ballot boxes and so forth.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:01 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: over3Owithabrain

A LOT of votes weren’t counted. Now they never will be.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 1:53:27 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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