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Don't blame Romney
TheHayride ^ | 11/6/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:19 AM PST by kcmom

Because what tonight’s election showed is that the American electorate has degraded very, very badly in the last decade. Exit polling indicates that this electorate was a D+6 electorate. 38 percent Democrat, 32 percent Republican. I didn’t think that was possible. I was wrong. Obama ran and won with an atrocious record, without anything remotely resembling a positive agenda for a second term, with a campaign based on lies, slander and hatred. That’s what he ran on. And that’s what he won on.

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It's the electorate...
1 posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:24 AM PST by kcmom
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To: kcmom

and we picked a liberal-moderate for this??

NO MORE!!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 12:41:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kcmom

We are so screwed.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 12:45:37 AM PST by DeaconRed (Kenya village will not get their idiot back. . . .)
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To: kcmom

I agree, this was not a Romney problem as far as I’m concerned.

The shift in demographics and political disposition has been well underway for awhile now, this didn’t happen overnight, and the trend has been clear from looking at past elections. Now it’s bearing real (rotten) fruit.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 12:45:45 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: kcmom

I agree. It’s the electorate.
It resulted from a 2 decade orgy of immigration from third world and latin hell holes. And from about 20 years of intensive propaganda in the schools about pro-gay, pro-abortion, America is evil, Islam is peace, everybody wins a blue ribbon etc.

The 18 to 30 generation is nearly a total loss. Nothing is more important them than homosexuality and free birth control.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 12:46:36 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL

I like Ryab but he added nothing to this ticket.

All about style. Needed a woman, Latino, or black.

1% would have swung it. Spend more on ground game and less on TV. Dems beat us on the ground game early voting.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 12:46:51 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: GeronL

I didn’t pick Romney. By the time my state held its primary, Romney was already annointed as the nominee. My state had no choice.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 12:47:48 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: kcmom

Romney-Ryan failed to win the election because they failed to inform and educate the voters when they tried to not offend women and independent voters. McCain tried the same strategy and lost, and now Romney lost using the same softpeddling strategy. Reagan didn’t softpeddle and won.

How many people think the Republican Party will learn from these failures and conclude they must persuade people about the ugly truths of the Democrat frauds?


8 posted on 11/07/2012 12:48:45 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: kcmom
Romney could not offer free birth control. It is just that simple.

This is a really sick country, if you ask me.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 12:49:04 AM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: kcmom

I don’t blame Romney. Romney and his family did a very good job for us. I detested Romney in the primaries but I have come to respect the man. The man, not his politics.

Nobody could have done any better for us and I doubt anybody would have worked nearly as hard. Romney didn’t win this but he and his family certainly earned my respect. They gave up much to do this and I truly believe it was love of country and well, for his dad.

I thank him and Ryan. They gave up much to do this for us. I am just sorry that this country has deteriorated as far as it has, this nation corrupt.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 12:49:22 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: kcmom

Indeed it is, and contrary to what many people are saying, the electorate frankly have lost the ideals of earned wealth. Our country is pretty much getting salvaged as we speak.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 12:51:06 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: DesertRhino

I have an 18 and a 20 yr old... Both voted Ronney. Both have worked on campaigns for real conservatives. If we don’t rescue this generation, we are in big trouble.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 12:51:45 AM PST by kcmom
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To: TigerClaws

Dems won the ground game with vote fraud


13 posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kcmom

Ok, Rombots. Let the excuses begin.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:40 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: TigerClaws

“All about style. Needed a woman, Latino, or black.”

People would see it as another Palin style gimmick. If it’s going to work, it will have to be the top of the ticket. That person will have to fight his or her way through the primaries. Cain tried but he wasn’t properly vetted (no political experience just isn’t going to work) so that was the end of that.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:25 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: kcmom

a campaign based on lies, slander and hatred. That’s what he ran on. And that’s what he won on.

And that is what we are going to get for the next
four years or more.

Democrats are more vicious in victory, a win only
empowers them to utilize the power gained to their
further advantage.

Valery said it very well, they will not forget
who opposed them...


16 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:31 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kcmom

I don’t blame Romney at all. He ran the very best Reagan Republican style campaign that could possibly be run, given the MSM’s biases. He did everything right, and it still wasn’t enough. His loss has shown once and for all that the old Reagan coalition is no longer operative and cannot achieve a governing majority.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:54 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: kcmom

2010 was not a D+6 electorate.

I am not pleased...hope this turns around.

I fear by 2016, though, any sembelance of this nation at the beginning of the century will be gone.

Hunker down, love God and your family, and keep the bastards from winning. They cannot take your soul.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 12:54:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: All

I agree it wasn’t Romney’s fault.

It’s shifting demographics, plain and simple.

The GOP will never win again as long as the looters can vote to fill their pockets.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 12:54:47 AM PST by FUBO
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To: fatnotlazy

I don’t think any other candidate that ran in the primary would have done better, I think all of them would have done worse.

I’m not encouraged for America that it was close.

Because it was close enough, I blame stupid democrats that voted for Obama and stupid conservatives that didn’t vote for Romney.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 12:55:27 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Daveinyork

Not a Rombot... Supported Santorum in primary. Thought the article insightful. In fact, it was my 20 yr old son who brought it to my attention,


21 posted on 11/07/2012 12:55:47 AM PST by kcmom
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To: Irenic

That’s sad when offering bailouts and unlimited money and handouts is the most appealing way to go, but that’s what the other side did. And frankly, as much as we’d like to try, none of the other candidates could have made much of a difference. Sure, you can be an aggressive debater, or be a decent person, but it’s pretty messed up when offering the free handouts is the winning strategy in America and around the world.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 12:55:47 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: kcmom

It’s the media. It has ALWAYS been the media. It’s a two against one fight before we even start.

Unless and until we conservatives learn how to use the internet and put together networks that can significantly influence news coverage, we got trouble.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 12:57:21 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: oyez
Romney could not offer free birth control. It is just that simple.

It really is, at least among younger voters I have talked to.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 12:57:21 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: WhiskeyX

The demographics Reagan faced were very different from today. Mexicans were over 10% of the electorate for the first time today. They were 75% Obama.
How many Somalis voted? How many moslems are here voting now?

There has also been an explosion in the number of unmarried women since 1980 who want a president for a husband.
And though we may not like it, the kids born since 1990 were educated and indoctrinated that homosexuality is almost sacred. They feel the same about abortion.

The huge majority of them will never deviate from this belief. They are the modern version of the 80 year olds who vote democrat for 6 decades because the love FDR.

Reagan never faced what we have today.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 12:58:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: kcmom

Completely true article. Wow it really did turn out to be a DEM +6 electorate. We mocked the polls that showed that.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 12:58:43 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: kcmom

I have a 19 year old the same way. So im sure you are familiar with the way a frightening percentage of their age group thinks.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 1:00:21 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: fatnotlazy

bump

mine too


28 posted on 11/07/2012 1:00:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kcmom

Could have had someone attacking Obama to the bitter end like Gingrich.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 1:00:25 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: All

I was listening to a liberal show on election day. The callers were complaining about voter suppression,romney owning voting machines


30 posted on 11/07/2012 1:00:52 AM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree with your theory.

But, quite frankly, it is our fault.

Conservatives surrendered on immigration, social issues, the wussification of America, and appeasing our enemies a long time ago.

Honestly, at this point, a counter-revolution is impossible.

We are going to destroy ourselves like Europe did.

The fact is illegals are going to get their amnesty and we won’t be nothing but a 3rd world hellhole and a province of Mexico in a generation.

Considering how bad our education system is, the break down of the family, and gayification of our society, we are totally aligned with the perfect storm of self-destruction.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:01:09 AM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: kcmom

Amen Brother.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:01:41 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: DesertRhino

>>>Reagan never faced what we have today.

But I still think Reagan could have won.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:18 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: DesertRhino

You’ve described many of the reasons we homeschool!


34 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:39 AM PST by kcmom
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To: TigerClaws

Michelle Bachmann?


35 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:52 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

True. These people have no grasp.

Once the Ali Akbar people get a hold of them they will... You know.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 1:03:14 AM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: TigerClaws
we had a strong black leader in Micheal Steele yet he got booted...the new guy has turned out to be a dud...

if you want females/latinos/blacks to run on the ticket, you have to FEATURE them and feature them and back them alot...

37 posted on 11/07/2012 1:03:32 AM PST by cherry
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To: kcmom
Anybody who thinks that any of Romney's primary competitors would have done better is seriously deluding himself.

GOP has lost almost the entire social agenda, across the board. Not because of Romney, who can advocate conservative social agenda in sane way (able to persuade some people)

GOP lost the agenda because of clowns like Murdoch and Akin. Murdoch and Akin were the best weapons Dems had in this election. They cost GOP the presidency, their own seats, plus number of other seats that were lost.

38 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:03 AM PST by joe212
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To: kcmom

Acfually, I don’t know if any’s republic could have won. The free lunch is alive and well. Atlas is shrugging. Who is John Galt?


39 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:23 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“Romney could not offer free birth control. It is just that simple.
It really is, at least among younger voters I have talked to.”

I’ve had a similar experience with the ones i’ve talked to.
It’s hard to get your mind around, but we lost our nation or severely damaged it, because of their demand for birth control, and their love for homosexuality.
It’s astounding but true.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:47 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Great. Glad to know I’m a total write-off.

Last I checked it wasn’t the 18-30 year olds who nominated Romney, or passed Roe v Wade.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:55 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: ari-freedom

Choosing the most popular Governor in America, perhaps in history, was not a gimmick, it was a chance to get a Reagan like reformer, earth shaker, into the white house.

Governor Palin was the strength in the 2008 ticket, not the old, moderate, Senator.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 1:06:54 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: D-fendr

“stupid conservatives that didn’t vote for Romney.”

Isn’t your primary complaint about Obama that he never takes personal responsibility for his failures, and blames everyone else instead?


44 posted on 11/07/2012 1:07:00 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Mozilla

Gingrich would have made it a different campaign for certain.

But I’m not at all certain he would have equalled Romney’s results.

And, still, there are those on here who would have tarred and feathered Newt as they did Romney.

Basics are we have to have a strong candidate and unify behind them. We have tough job as it is, so this is fundamental for us.

Long term, education and the culture and church and family - if we don’t have these... Without the right values, the nation fails. The founders knew this, we need to remember it also.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 1:07:14 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Good excuse, but given his record as governor, and his refusal to admit Romneycare was a mistake, where was his credability to teach conservatism?


46 posted on 11/07/2012 1:08:22 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: kcmom

It’s the electorate. We could have run anyone and still lost.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 1:08:22 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: joe212

Here come the knives for the GOP social agenda.

Do you think that supporting abortion is ‘sane’?


48 posted on 11/07/2012 1:08:37 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: abb
aren't there any rich conservatives who could buy media up?....even with the internet, and Fox, pathetic as they've gotten, the main news channels are still communist leftwingers...

but just like here, Rush and Glenn and Savage and Hannity won't cooperate with each other....

maybe start with a newspaper or two... maybe radio...SOMETHING.....

49 posted on 11/07/2012 1:09:11 AM PST by cherry
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To: Mr. Jeeves

REAGAN???

We can start by not going to Massachusetts for the most liberal republican presidential candidate in history.

“I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” Romney said when asked whom in his party he aligned with.

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush,”

“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”


50 posted on 11/07/2012 1:09:45 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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