Posted on 11/07/2012 12:07:58 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
Unskewed polls.com Nate Silver is clueless GOP vote underestimated/DEM vote overestimated Anything Dick Morris says Groundswell of anger at Obama Bradley effect Romney had momentum PA was winnable WI was winnable
Anything else??
Nate Silver is clueless. He’d be happier if he slit his wrists
That the Reagan coalition is still viable, or that such things as “Reagan Democrats” actually exist. The GOP got killed among Asian-Americans, who logically should be strong GOP supporters. The GOP is not even asking itself why.
Nobody can predict what trojan horse can do, except G-d!
Go back and check the RCP final poll average for the 2010 Senate races - 20 of 23 correctly senate seats picked correctly. Of the the 3 that were incorrect, 2 dems won instead of the predicted republican, and the last was Murkowski beating Miller in Alaska. And obviously, polls were better than GOP cheerleaders this time as well.
The dumbest thing I hear around here is "no one polled me."
What about Hillbuzz? SHARK!!!....falling out on my arse laughing!
Can somebody tell me why Asian-Americans vote for democRATS? You're right, Mr. Jeeves... logically they should be strong GOP supporters.
WHY do they vote for 'RATs? I don't understand this...
I still think Silver is just fed numbers, but they were correct numbers.
I think the “likely voter” construct has to be reworked.
I also think we are in a cycle where this new demographic wave will turnout in Presidential Elections but not necessarily off year elections. So 2014 might be more like 2010 and 2016 more like 2012/08. Making connections between off years and Pres years.....not really indicative.
The voters weren’t winnable.
We are seeing the damage of 30 years of the teacher’s union molding minds.
We are seeing the damage of giant social saftey nets from cradle to grave.
We are seeing the damage of the new elite consiting of government union employees with billions in out elections.
I can go on and on and on.
Can somebody tell me why Asian-Americans vote for democRATS? You're right, Mr. Jeeves... logically they should be strong GOP supporters.
WHY do they vote for 'RATs? I don't understand this...
Because the GOP has been branded as racist redneck hicks that all people of color should be deathly afraid of no matter what other reasons may be put forth.
“What about Hillbuzz? SHARK!!!....falling out on my arse laughing!”
PUMA’s will always let you down.
We didn’t understand why Obama won in 2008. We thought maybe people wanted to give him a chance, he would be historic first black, post partisan and all that hopey stuff. Then they’d get over it.
Maybe he won because they really wanted a leftist.
“It’s the economy, stupid.”
I think the leftist Democratic party will turn on him once Obamacare is implemented and they see how much it takes out of their pockets and how hard they work to keep from paying benefits. It will work great like a newlywed groom the first year then get ugly as it rears it’s true colors. Now he doesn’t have to listen to what they have to say and they will get to see what he is really about.
Trade war with China didn’t help. But they could also be like non-Orthodox Jews.
Well the GOP had better move heaven and earth to dispell that myth NOW, or they will cease to be a party...
“I think the leftist Democratic party will turn on him once Obamacare is implemented and they see how much it takes out of their pockets and how hard they work to keep from paying benefits. It will work great like a newlywed groom the first year then get ugly as it rears it’s true colors. Now he doesn’t have to listen to what they have to say and they will get to see what he is really about.”
They will see? Maybe they saw and liked what they saw. Look at Sweden. They still keep that going.
I think folks forget that the GOP isn’t called the “stupid party” for nothing. The mistakes they and Romney made this election are legion. Marquis of Queensberry rules don’t mean much at a south Chicago street fight.
Our only hope now is real economic collapse (on a catastrophic
scale) that will be so devastating that it will bring about
a huge revolt against the Democrats.
Or it might even bring a military coup.
Well, they got it. All we can do now is sit back and watch.
Yep. Many otherwise normal, likable and successful people I see on Facebook really think women were going to lose their rights. We ignore these charges and they are now kicking our ass. It is absurd that women fall for that, but if we don’t argue it, they’ll believe it.
GOP lost presidency because the candidate did not have fire in the belly until too late (first debate). Nor did he express a clear and concise view of his principles or his plan (as Reagan did). People will vote for the devil they know rather than one that waffles.
Contrary to popular wisdom, GOP did not lose senate in 2010 and 2012 because candidates were too conservative. They lost because tea party nominated too many dumbkopf women in 2010 and too many stupid men in 2012. If you are too stupid to handle a press interview or debate question with MSM reporters we don’t need you in the senate. We need intelligent people like Paul Ryan who can articulate their plans and dodge idiotic questions about rape, who don’t dabble in witchcraft, etc.
The tea party is shooting itself in the foot, because people are blaming the message, not the messengers.
everyone who can...
votes anti white
i have tried to explain this here for 12 years but whites...northern ones in Becky land just don’t get it
we have created a culture where anyone not white is to be thought of as a victim of white oppression
and the vast majority do
it has crippled our ability to deal with any problem from immigration to urban crime to illegitimacy to Islam
and now the demographics are insurmountable
Asians voted 9 points higher this time than 2008 for Democrats
only bright side...white young kids voted for Romney 51%...8 point bump from 2008
still...i bet even Vietnamese voted Obama maybe
Oh...
Perhaps a mixed twisted messages lets people down, too?
What exactly is the conservative agenda?
We are against homosexuals in the military, we are against homosexual marriage but we like homosexuals when they agree with us and tell us what we want to hear?
It is a schizophrenic mess in my opinion.
So do we decide we accept homosexuals because it is what we believe or it will win us elections?
Ann Coulter seems to think that is the way to go.
The whole thing is hypocritical as is.
I am not saying one way or the other but as it is, it is stupid r-tard B.S. FAKE.
Solved got his 08 numbers from the Obama internals. Likely did the same this time.
Asians should be voting R. Must be some fake racism claim at work.
that right-wingers should do presidential politics instead of dealing with the state house.
(Let the RINOs obsess over all thing prezidential.) What a waste of time all this ROMNEY crap was.
Another myth - independents were huge with Romney and the remaining undecideds would break heavily to him.
Myths:
Blacks won’t turn out. Only 80% will vote Obama.
PA was in play.
Ryan will bring a state or two. Not even WI was picked up.
Gender gap is gone.
Dick Morris. Clueless.
Poll watching will help.
We can destroy all the myths, but people will create new ones in their place. That’s how people deal with unthinkable ideas.
I am honestly believing that we need to split up into two different countries -- the situation has gotten beyond repair and reconciliation.
Even the Northeast RINOs don't seem to care - the entire GOP acts like responding to that characterization is beneath them.
Republicans have a huge message problem - they strongly desire to use government power to control behavior they don't like, but they still want to pretend they are the defenders of American liberty. The voters (quite correctly) are not buying it, but they are buying the Democrats' doing the exact same thing because it comes wrapped in free stuff.
when our communist thug was elected, i feared a fdr model.
Horrible economics and he won 4 straight elections.
I am sooo depressed, i can’t even imagine what this place will look like in 4 years.
Demographics are horrible, it will be very difficult for anyone do to a better job than mitt did.
“when our communist thug was elected, i feared a fdr model.
Horrible economics and he won 4 straight elections.
I am sooo depressed, i can’t even imagine what this place will look like in 4 years.
Demographics are horrible, it will be very difficult for anyone do to a better job than mitt did.”
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Agreed. Grim doesn’t describe it well enough.
I would not disagree entirely with that analysis, but don’t
be too hasty to throw the Tea Party under the bus. They did
support Ted Cruz and he won.
Akin and Mourdock are idiots.
Spot on wardaddy. And we only 60% of the white vote. The answer is not to kowtow to the Latino population and open borders and let the country go socialist, but to more or less unify the white vote... well, increase our white vote.
Closest pollster PPP, and NBC Wallstreet Journal. Worst pollster, Rasmussen and ARG.
I guess Silver was right. It is also looking like he nailed popular vote. Dick Morris and Karl Rove needs to explain themselves. I guess I skewed polls better skew them back.
If I never again hear the words - poll/s, polling, pollster - I will live a happy life.
Who wants to wager the absentee ballots don’t get counted.
Most get counted first, late ones sometimes wait until next day
Dick Morris should be fired from FOX—I never want to see that SOB again! Fox should close up shop and go underground like Beck—They have lead us astray. America hates them! Obama is a genius —he is unable to be defeated in a election. He has the Unions (who will get richer) the MSM (who will get fatter) Seros and the Liberal Hollywood Crowd—what could stand against them? No one! Not a Timid Mittens. Now we must support Obama and work to make his vision of America Come true. His America is where we will live and our children and grand children. We need to fly the USA flag with his face upon it—it is the future of the USA. All Hail Obama! The first and greatest American of them all.
They'll be counted.
We're weeks away from a final count. They can't even open the provisional ballots in Ohio for another 17 days.
That's the simple truth. The sad fact is more and more Americans are downright happy with the sound of socialism. Pie in the sky. I call them the ignorati. Their numbers swell every year. It might be near the time to offer Americans the choice of which country they want to live in: the socialist one or the free-market capitalist one. Right now I'd say this country is not a center-right country anymore. It's center-left. The parasites, the takers, the leeches won again. Let's amicably separate, and they can live in their socialist paradise.
all the recriminations in the world don't hold up because the election was rigged....
Personally, I think the idiocy extends way beyond those two; however, they do illustrate the problem very well.
Where is it that I suggested anything of the sort. Grow up.
Where is it that I suggested anything of the sort. Grow up.
Japanese and Chinese just love obama, he polled very favorably in japan and china.
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