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Vanity: Nice Guys
November 7, 2012 | wuli

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:06 PM PST by Wuli

If the opposing candidate is a thug, and your candidate refuses to admit that and thinks all that he has to do is be mister nice guy, to win, you can be sure he won't.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: obama; romney; vanity

1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:09 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Human decency needs no defense.

Let Obama have the poisoned chalice of his victory. He has NO mandate and no right to do anything in our name.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:51 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Wuli

Add in the fact that our nice guy holds some of the same positions as their bad guy, and only wants to do what the left wants to do at a slower pace and then you really have the recipe for the Mega-disaster we are seeing.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Wuli

Romney had a better chance playing mister nice guy than not.

This country is split down the middle and slants to squishy. If he was to gather any goo to pack the bearings— he had to play it nice.

I hated him and said awful nasty things about him and his family during the primaries. I was wrong, Romney is a good guy.

I still don’t like his politics but the politics I prefer are in the minority and can’t win. It is just a sad reality.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 11:00:54 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: goldstategop

He wants revenge.
He has the whole government to punish his enemies, the American people.
America as we used to know it has passed to a former age.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 11:01:02 PM PST by BloodScarletMinnesota
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To: Wuli

It’s interesting. While I thought Romney would win, I was perpetually bugged by his passivity. Rather than attacking Obama, he would use phrases like “He tried, but it didn’t work”. That gave the impression that Obama was trying to improve things. Thus, in many minds, Obama just didn’t have enough time to correct Bush’s mistakes.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 11:01:19 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: goldstategop
Our country is LOST. Women, who used to be the cherished LIFE GIVERS, have turned into BLOOD THIRSTY KILLERS of their OWN BABIES!!

Illegal immigration has turned us into MEXICO-LITE, but WE GIVE THEM FREEBIES!!

7 posted on 11/06/2012 11:12:36 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Wuli

Romney was the wrong candidate. I said that from the start. I hoped for the best...but as late as August it seemed to me that Romney wasn’t even trying.


8 posted on 11/06/2012 11:16:07 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: goldstategop

“Human decency needs no defense.”

Well said.

Romney was a class act even in debate #1, but he still laid into Obama.

“He has NO mandate” His mandate is to keep birth control legal and show up on The View every four years. The GOP House has a mandate to stop his tax hikes.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 11:20:20 PM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Wuli

I guess we could dissect this until the sun burns out, but we don’t need to tear Romney down for this loss.

Romney did not lose this race against Obama.... Romney lost this race against the greatest enemies of our time, the MSM. These vicious bastards have deliberately caused more damage to our country/society than any terrorist has ever done and likely ever will.

It doesn’t matter who our candidate might be, if we don’t figure out how to eliminate this threat, we will never see victory.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 12:09:02 AM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Gator113
It doesn’t matter who our candidate might be, if we don’t figure out how to eliminate this threat, we will never see victory.

I beg to differ - we will not see victory as long as the GOP leadership wants to support liberal Republicans. You can't beat a liberal with another liberal, even if they have an (R) next to their name.
11 posted on 11/07/2012 12:14:08 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Wuli
After 65 years of this shit, no more nice guy. Nice guys disappear in the snow and then rain.
12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:13:05 AM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: Gator113

“Romney lost this race against the greatest enemies of our time, the MSM. These vicious bastards have deliberately caused more damage to our country/society than any terrorist has ever done and likely ever will.” ....”It doesn’t matter who our candidate might be, if we don’t figure out how to eliminate this threat, we will never see victory.”

Reagan did it, and he was excoriated brutally in the MSM, as a candidate, every time, and while in office, and more viciously than any of the attacks on Romney.

What he had that Romney lacked was the onservative intellectual depth and the communication skills to use it well, to make a Conservative argument in the plain langauge of the everyday man and woman, without bogging them down in policy minutia that only becomes grist for the MSM mill.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 7:29:38 AM PST by Wuli
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To: An American In Dairyland

“but as late as August it seemed to me that Romney wasn’t even trying.”

I think the “Independents” and Libertarians and Conservatives outside the GOP saw that too. The way the GOP Convention was staged it could have came across to the unconvinced as if Romney was acting as if getting the GOP nomination was all he had to do.

We supplied the crowds at his campaign stop rallies, but we were not the ones he needed to campaign TO.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 7:34:28 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Right Brother

“That gave the impression that Obama was trying to improve things. Thus, in many minds, Obama just didn’t have enough time to correct Bush’s mistakes.”

That was ONE of Romney’s big mistakes.

The thinking of Obama and his biggest supporters was that everything that was wrong was due to (a)things George W. Bush did and (b) conditions “Obama inherited”.

But Obama did not “inherit” Obamacare, or Dodd-Frank, or his attacks on traditional energy producers; or his wasteful spending on “alternative” energy companies; or his non-stiumulating drunken-spending “stimulus”; or his joint engineering with Harry Reid of no real Federal Budget legislation in 2010, 2011 or 2012; or his intellectual and legal morphing of Roe-V-Wade from a right to abortion to a right to abortion with someone else required to pay for it, even when that someone is a faith-based institution to whom abortion is against their moral principles; or a zillion other things that have collectively held the economy hostage to his economy recking policy agenda.

That - present conditions are not Obama’s fault (but they are evil banks, evil Wall Street and evil Bush’s fault) - was a major mindset among the vast uninformed in the country as well.

Romney NEVER strongly countered it; he let it slide “off him”, but that only suggested it was not Romney’s fault “either”, it did not strongly dispute the premise.

We knew the premise was wrong, Romney knew the premise was wrong but we were not the ones that needed convincing and Romney had no big move to get that across to those who did.

One of the big “communication style” differences between Ronald Reagan and Romney is that Reagan knew that it was not he his opponent was talking to - ever - it was those listening his opponent was talking to and he knew when his opponent was relying on their ignorance, and that was why he gave the listeners what THEY needed to hear.

Sometimes Romney acted as if the whole population knew Obama was lying, as if EVERYONE was seeing that, when far too many people were drunk on Obama’s koolaid and Romney never showed them Obama was the naked emperor. Romney acted as if NO ONE needed any convincing of that. Reagan would not have seen it that way. He never took his audience for granted.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:48 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Irenic

“Romney had a better chance playing mister nice guy than not.”

Romney may have needed to be Mister Nice Guy in the personal way; but he took it too far and was too much Mister Nice guy ON SUBSTANCE.

He needed to channel Ronald Reagan who could be Mister Nioe guy while ripping his opponents ideas to shreds.

Romney lacked the communication skills to treat Obama personally as an O.K. guy, while eviscerating a policy argument of Obama’s.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 8:06:29 AM PST by Wuli
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To: goldstategop

“Human decency needs no defense.”

I know Mitt is a very decent guy, and I respect that and I respect that he needed no campaign strategy wonk to get him to come across that way to Obama, personally.

And I have no problem with that - the personal.

But Mitt was too much Mister Nice Guy ON SUBSTANCE.

As I said in another response on this thread, Ronald Reagan was a nice guy, a really decent man and he treated his opponents with decency on the personal level, but he knew how to do that AND still eviscerate and shred their ideas and their policies - their substance; Romney did not.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:13:58 AM PST by Wuli
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