Posted on 11/06/2012 9:40:19 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
Right or wrong, the GOP is going to pinpoint a "latino problem", which will move Rubio to the front of the line.
You can't make exact comparisons, but this election is similar to 2004....Bush won...shocking the left, and the response was to go with the young guy who was different. There WILL be Obama fatigue by 2016, and the next person can't blame Bush any longer.
The GOP was never going to get the black vote, but they CAN get the latino vote. They are far less monolithic, and are more Christian than your typical white lefty. I also present there are a lot of conservative, hard working latinos who will more readily break from the Democratic fold than blacks....if the case is made to them.
Is Rubio automatically the GOP's Obama? Of course not. He might be, but whether he is or not, this, IMO, is likely to be what occurs.
The Demographic bomb is here. Romney just generated a close election in a DEMOCRAT +6 election....I think we'll look back on this and be amazed Romney got it this close.
The takeaway by the GOP, IMO, rightly or wrongly, will be a conservative, religious latino would flip the entire demographic bomb on its head.
ESPECIALLY if in 2016 the Dems go back to a white guy or woman. Of course, they might go Latino themselves...we'll have to see.
This is going to dramatically change the immigration debate, and I think the GOP is now going to decide to go all in, embrace "reform" and start trying to bring Christian Latinos into the GOP.
Rove made the Christian White Voter the centerpiece for Bush.
Going forward the GOP will try to flip the demographic wave on its head, and do a judo move.
Again...I am not saying this is right or wrong, or what SHOULD happen... it is just a forecast of what I think WILL happen.
One thing is sure, there is a decent chance to attract religious Latinos as opposed to religious blacks.
Now...will the GOP move left to do it?
The demographic wave is here, instead of moving left I hope the GOP makes the conservative case to that wave.
Get ready. Immigration reform will be Obamas NEXT BIG THING...and the GOP might just get onboard the train. For good or bad, for better or worse.
I fear a shift left. I think you can bring in Latinos AND go conservative...but I'm not sure they'll do it that way.
I just hope Rubio is the real deal...because I think he is the "next guy".
I will give a far more accurate and simple forecast for the future of the Republican Party:
The GOP will jump hard Left... Further abandoning & alienating the Conservative base.
Look for a more liberal bend on abortion, and some tolerance for same-sex marriage to start. Less talk of entitlement reform and a softer stand on immigration reform. Essentially taking an official platform of Democrat - Lite.
And the country will continue to rot.
We have reached the tipping point. The leachers and moochers have realized how to assume and maintain power. We will now see a period of time where they run the country into the ground.
The country will become conservative again after reality smacks them in the face, as it surely will in time. If, at that point, we still have a country. But I doubt I will be still be around to see it happen.
I would think she does better as VP even in 2012.
Oh, Rubio can win.
Problem is DUH just DUH! He is a pro UN non citizen.
Could we just find an American? Someone who gets what the Constitution is?
Its too late. This nation will have to go though some treacherous and tragic times before things change,
No thanks, He is not a conservative who is establishment.. It will be the same thing all over. He would lose. We need to unite behind a real conservative; not settle for these yahoos.
It’s a good post but you’re way too optimistic. What happens between here and 2016 changes everything.
“RINOs such as Rubio ENSURE a loss.”
I sure won’t vote for him!
I doubt there will be another Presidental election and that we will be under Shreia law before 4 years are up.
Oh puhleease..... Who cares at this point? We are a long way from that. I’m not sure the problem is even with the GOP..seems to me like it’s with the American people.
Before 4 years!
Pffft!
Good luck putting up Christmas lights in a montb and a half from now.
Talking about 2016 NOW is like a widower picking up dates at his wife’s funeral....
PLEASE, give us a rest for a while!
If she's in, I'm in. Otherwise, I'm done with politics. I'm not going to waste my remaining years fretting over the stupidity of the American people. If I have to, I'll move to Costa Rica or some other place and enjoy life.
Are you insane? What makes you think there will be a 2016?
obama is in the white hut for life.
Get used to that.
YOU are now his slave.
Yep.
I’m not interested in the GOP anymore.
wrong buddy
it's an ANTI WHITE thing
and 100% Caucasian Rubio and his hot little gringa looking Colombian American wife are seen as WHITE...very WHITE
by what is a very minority Latino populace here consisting mostly of Negroid descended Caribbean latinos excluding Cubans who aside from Argentina were the whitest latin nation before the exodus
or Amerinidan latinos from Mexico etc...
Cubans and Colombians are for the most part seen as rich and white and part of the establishment of anyone white or passing as such
a little squatty Aztec descended brick layer or black Dominican doesn;t see Rubio any different than he would view my cracker ass
and I speak Spanish too...Colombian vernacular as it were
this is what it really is about for minorities..including Jews and some women..they view America and western culture as one long pageant of white oppression of non whites and non Christians and to some degree women
and look how they vote...they want redress and to be victims cause it's got benefits or they just hate Whites and White Christians in particular
and silly white northern liberals from Scandinavia or eastern Europe ancestry...they are just friggin different...manly women and culture war disdainful sorts...neurotic and cold and unfriendly
it is obvious the white anglo saxon, scots irish South and the pioneers of the west can no longer hold them off...even with little Indiana jumping in
some conservative Mexican as eloquent as Rubio but who looks like George Lopez might help
easiest votes to mine are the white ones....i do not know white percentages this time...in 2010 they were 62% nationwide...in my homestate whites vote almost 90% GOP..in Dixie naturally...up north whites are totally different but still the bad guy to latino lefties
I am not optimistic that a real conservative will do it...in fact the opposite...I think we were very motivated this time...but outnumbered by the demographics we let happen
blacks are too few and a lost cause anyhow
northern whites and Mexicans to be blunt are where the votes that matter are
getting them i ain't optimistic
that is the worst part about this...we are simply outnumbered..like almost every other nation in the West
Marco Rubio would be a DISASTER as a national candidate
First...he is not even conservative. His main agenda in the Senate is to push DREAM Act Illegal Alien Amnesty. His voting record is along the lines of GOP Northeastern liberal Senators. And, he is also a supporter of the Man Made Global Warming nonsense
And, he is Cuban-American....he will not attract Mexican-Amer, Puerto Rican-Amer, Dominican-Amer voters. The Liberal RINO GOP fetish of the “Hispanic Voter” is one of the reasons why they lose elections....
The fact that people consider Marco Rubio a Conservative tells me why the GOP cannot win elections. Rubio is a Hispano-Racist PhonyCon RINO...he is not a conservative
What has this election taught YOU?
And we as conservatives should go all in to make sure this Amnesty Queen gets nowhere near the nomination!
We don’t have a Latino problem, we have a refusal to pursue conservative, limited government issue positions and solutions within the GOP!
Absolutely! 1000% spot on
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