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Why A Good Person Can Vote Against Same-Sex Marriage
NRO ^ | 30 October 2012 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/06/2012 1:08:41 PM PST by zeestephen

To argue that opposition to same-sex marriage is immoral is to argue that every moral thinker, and every religion and social movement in the history of mankind prior to the last 20 years in America and Europe was immoral.

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1 posted on 11/06/2012 1:08:44 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

NR has fallen a LONG time ago.

The fact that the question is worded that way, as if the general assumption would be the reverse, shows that the NR writers are too influenced by the Eastern Establishment mindset.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 1:10:57 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: zeestephen

I used a similar argument on my libtard sister this summer;
1. 57% of the American population suffers from a “phobia” that has not been clinically identified or diagnosed.
2. 57% of America is full of “hate”.
3. She voted for Obama when he opposed gay “marriage (and there for “hated” gays), but now that he’s for gay “marriage”, she’s equally OK with him.

The left has overplayed their hand on this one.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 1:11:41 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: zeestephen

I am a good person, and I voted against it. That is all I have to say at this time.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 1:13:41 PM PST by theelephantway
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To: theelephantway

That is all you need to say.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 1:14:57 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: zeestephen

Actually it is immoral to support gay marriage. Since the bible says that gay relationships are a sin, then it is moral to oppose a sin. So being against the sin (gay marriage) would be moral.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 1:16:04 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: zeestephen

I supose a good person could also possibly be for same-sex marriage. Thus far the possibility is entirely theoretical for me, since I have yet to encounter any practical examples.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 1:16:09 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: zeestephen
Same-sex marriage is an oxymoron.

Anyone who even thinks it's possible is a moron.

Buggery doesn't lead to pregnancy.

8 posted on 11/06/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: zeestephen
Stupid—”same sex marriage” is the same as “bicycle bulldozer spaceflight” there just ain’t no such animal and only the Almighty can bend reality that wild.
9 posted on 11/06/2012 1:19:46 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: zeestephen
A better title would be, "Can a sane person vote for something called "same sex marriage."

The very concept shows an inability to grasp either the social, moral or biological significance of marriage. It is not about making a statement that you are angry at reality. It is all about sanctifying the family & the reproductive function.

William Flax

10 posted on 11/06/2012 1:21:54 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Happy Rain
...—”same sex marriage” is the same as “bicycle bulldozer spaceflight” there just ain’t no such animal...

Precisely.

In addition to the moral question, should the very definition of the words that make up our language be up for negotiation?

Think about laws which are dependent on the word "marriage" or its variations. Was that law intended to apply as it would with a re-definied "marriage"? When the meaning of a law is changed ex post facto in such a way, how can that law ever be justly and impartially applied?

Where would it stop? Could we then go on to change the meanings of words such as "jury", "guilty" or "confess"?

There are HUGE consequences hanging in the balance of this issue. The word "marriage" means something. It should mean the same thing now as it has for thousands of years. To re-define such a critical and basic word would create a profound shock to much more than people's sense of decency.

Besides, it's just gross.

Eww.

11 posted on 11/06/2012 1:33:42 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: History Repeats

Yup, it’s a duty to stand against sin and call sin, sin.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 1:39:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Gil4

What’s your best example of how this could occur?

It’s either being naive, not thinking it through logically, or using faulty logic.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 1:41:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: theelephantway
The fact that "same-sex marriage" is now viewed as normal and people (like myself) who view marriage as between one man and one woman are viewed as hateful and "extreme", shows how far our culture has sunk.

I am a traditonalist and I live a very conservative lifestyle (married to the same man for 31 years). I believe that words mean something. The word marriage means something, and that something is not two men having anal sex. Marriage is not just the best situation for men, women and children; but, it is also a very stabilizing force within the larger community.

14 posted on 11/06/2012 1:44:52 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: ArrogantBustard
Same-sex marriage is an oxymoron.

Anyone who even thinks it's possible is a moron.

Buggery doesn't lead to pregnancy

What does pregnancy have to do with marriage?

15 posted on 11/06/2012 1:45:06 PM PST by ksen
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To: zeestephen; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Classical marriage fosters stability of progeny and familial orientation through and across succeeding generations. Only one male and one female in a marital setting can direct these ends, Thus no other combination thereof should have any claim whatsoever on this unique societal institution.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 1:45:14 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ksen
Marriage exists and was established by God for the purpose of procreating and properly raising children in a stable environment with a father and a mother. The connection between children and pregnancy should be obvious ... Contrary to the falsehoods promulgated by leftists and perverts, the State did not invent marriage.

A relationship which by nature cannot produce children, as between two men, or two women, or between a human and an animal, cannot be a marriage.

17 posted on 11/06/2012 1:51:11 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Marriage exists and was established by God for the purpose of procreating and properly raising children in a stable environment with a father and a mother. The connection between children and pregnancy should be obvious ... Contrary to the falsehoods promulgated by leftists and perverts, the State did not invent marriage.

A relationship which by nature cannot produce children, as between two men, or two women, or between a human and an animal, cannot be a marriage.

Congratulations, you just nullified thousands of marriages between men and women where one or both partners are sterile.

18 posted on 11/06/2012 1:59:33 PM PST by ksen
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To: ArrogantBustard

I don’t care what % of what % thinks!
So now your moral compass is determined by popular vote?
Talk about insanity!!!!!!!!!
Not in this mellenimun.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 2:00:44 PM PST by Conserev1
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To: Dr. Sivana
NR has fallen a LONG time ago.

I cancelled my subscription during the 2008 election, when every cover illustration on NR for months and months prior to the election was of Obama. They were so fascinated with the guy, they were giving him free publicity!

20 posted on 11/06/2012 2:04:00 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If God can send millions of ordinary folks to preserve a chicken store, He can fix this mess.)
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