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Republican enthusiasm in blue state -- Maryland
observation | Jackson Brown

Posted on 11/06/2012 9:48:10 AM PST by Jackson Brown

Just voted in Maryland.

We live in the northern tip of Montgomery County Maryland, just outside DC As usual, VERY few Dem yard signs in our town of about 18,000 ever -- conservative enclave in liberal county. This year Romney signs all over the place...virtually every house.

Lived here 25+ years and EVERY election in past no lines to vote...we usually just walk right in, vote, and leave in 5 minutes. Always go to polls about 9 AM just after people who vote before going to work are gone.

THIS year -- temps in the low 30s (much colder than ever before (in my memory) -- the line was out the door and down the road -- took 2+ hours to vote.

IOW, the majority republicans who live here know that MD will go democratic and usually don't vote -- yet they showed up in HUGE numbers nonetheless THIS TIME...for the FIRST TIME.

Tells me the enthusiasm to vote republican -- even if unlikely to go our way in our state -- is OFF THE CHART!


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To: Lacey2; Gilbo_3
RE :”Wrong!! In a deep blue State like yours the expectation is it will remain so and this depresses the Rep voter. However when the turnout is high DESPITE the fact they believe the State will stay blue it means this same excitement among Rep. will ocurr Nationwide and we benefit in those States we can and must win.”

High turnout in a Dem state means lots of Dems are voting. This is pretty simple to follow.

If Dems there were demoralized then that Dem state would have low turnout. Maryland had huge turnout in 2008. Was that a good sign?

41 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:04 AM PST by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Lacey2

“So, MD has NEVER gone REP?”

I love that we’re talking about MD! Somehow the fact that we’re thinking about strategy at all in the deep blue states, makes a change of heart in places like my state - Washington State - seem possible...go McKenna (Gov. WA - R).

Of course OH, and PA are huge today...and all the other swing states...


42 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:39 AM PST by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I am really encouraged to hear your report.

My guess is that the same-sex versus traditional marriage issue being on your state ballot is also juicing up voter interest. If we can get Romney to reach even 45%, I’d be thrilled.

I suspect that in the blue parts of Maryland, many black voters will split their ballot by voting for traditional marriage but still pulling the lever of Obama. I do think that similar referendums on traditional marriage will help us in Minnesota, which is more Caucasian and less likely to have voters who support traditional marriage but also Obama.


43 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:56 AM PST by Rob in Arizona (Rob in Arizona)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m sorry! You’re right. I was thinking of my girlfriends and the trucks they drive—one an F-250, one a 3500 dually, another has a 550 commercial to pull her big horse van, etc. Fingers got tangled.


44 posted on 11/06/2012 10:58:10 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: sickoflibs

Depends on which parts of Maryland.

45 posted on 11/06/2012 10:59:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: sickoflibs
High turnout in a Dem state means lots of Dems are voting.

Wrong. Even in a mostly Dem state there are many many Repubs. They often don't bother voting. High turnout is not automatically the whole crossection. It could be just the repubicans.
46 posted on 11/06/2012 11:01:27 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: sickoflibs
You are absolutely right. But Maryland didn't just have "huge" turnout in 2008, they had record-setting turnout. Not just in the number of voters, but in the percentage of voting-age population that actually voted.

And that went sooooo well for the Republicans.

Factor in that MD's demographics haven't exactly improved in the last 4 years, and the supposedly large turnout we're seeing in 2012 might mean than Bonzo gets to 65% instead of the mere 62% he got in '08. Or maybe a few more R's are coming out and we hold him to 59%.

47 posted on 11/06/2012 11:02:23 AM PST by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: ottbmare

>> another has a 550 commercial to pull her big horse van, etc.

Dayum! And I thought I was hot stuff with my F350 DRW! ;-)


48 posted on 11/06/2012 11:03:06 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: TalonDJ; PermaRag
RE :”Wrong. Even in a mostly Dem state there are many many Repubs. They often don't bother voting. High turnout is not automatically the whole crossection. It could be just the repubicans.”

Well in this Dem state it means that both are voting, as it did in 2008. Dems loved O in 2008 and RINOs here loved McCain. Rs are pretty much RINOs here and they loved McCain and now Romney. Dems here STILL love O, not doubt about that.

My point here is :”Don't use this state as an example of anything good”

49 posted on 11/06/2012 11:09:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

My understanding was this high turnout was in a heavily Rep. District and it was being compared to 2008 turnout. In that case it is not just good, it is great.


50 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:02 AM PST by Lacey2
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To: Nervous Tick

She is pulling a six-horse van full of 1500-pound warmbloods over passes through the Blue Ridge, and up and down I-95. She likes to feel she has enough muscle to go up some of those inclines. It’s a seriously impressive rig and we all envy her, but of course the downside is that she can’t really unhitch and drive to the grocery store if necessary, as you can.


51 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:50 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: sickoflibs

In 2008’ R’s did not love McCain the way D’s loved O. Sarah increased enthusiasm, but we were not enthused about M. R’s are much more hopeful this election and are much more determined. There is a sense of urgency as 4 more years will be critical, especially with the SC in play.


52 posted on 11/06/2012 11:14:25 AM PST by HollyB
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To: PermaRag
RE :”You are absolutely right. But Maryland didn't just have “huge” turnout in 2008, they had record-setting turnout. Not just in the number of voters, but in the percentage of voting-age population that actually voted.
And that went sooooo well for the Republicans.
Factor in that MD’s demographics haven't exactly improved in the last 4 years, and the supposedly large turnout we're seeing in 2012 might mean than Bonzo gets to 65% instead of the mere 62% he got in ‘08. Or maybe a few more R's are coming out and we hold him to 59%. “

The Demographics turned around big in GWBs first term. In the 1990s (rich) Howard County was solid R. By 2004 it went to Kerry and the Bush Housing Boom and gov spending and massive immigration were all working together to flip it, and still are. By 2008 it was over.

I expect nothing good from this place, home of Martin O Malley and spineless weakling Erhlich, (spits)

53 posted on 11/06/2012 11:15:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: ottbmare

>> she can’t really unhitch and drive to the grocery store if necessary, as you can

Well, I can’t either, really; after I buy diesel, I ain’t got no money left for luxuries like food. :-)


54 posted on 11/06/2012 11:22:27 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: HollyB; PermaRag
RE :”In 2008’ R’s did not love McCain the way D’s loved O. Sarah increased enthusiasm, but we were not enthused about M. R’s are much more hopeful this election and are much more determined. There is a sense of urgency as 4 more years will be critical, especially with the SC in play.”

Sarah?? The RINOs here told me they didnt even understand why she was on the ticket. They loved general MCCain war hero...bla-bla-bla. They were enthused. Now they got Romney probably about the same.

More-so the Dems here LOVE Obama. He is very popular here especially being non-white (foreign roots) and educated, or at least appears to be educated. That rings their bells.

55 posted on 11/06/2012 11:24:09 AM PST by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

Howard County voted for Klinton twice, but by a smaller margin than the rest of Maryland so you could say that they weren’t so bad then, though I can remember them back in the 80s when Columbia was becoming a “planned community” with its Fascist HOAs.

By the 2000s, you’re right — that whole county was *gone*. I guess whatever diasease Columbia had, spread.


56 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:29 AM PST by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: Lacey2
So, MD has NEVER gone REP?

We've had some Republican governors. But Baltimore is an open sewer of crime, filth, and corruption, and generates a huge number of Dem votes. The collar counties around DC are immovably liberal: Prince George's County is mostly black, while Montgomery County is full of Latinos, blacks, illegals, other minorities, and prosperous, educated white leftists. Howard County is a peaceful and beautiful county with mostly conservative voters except for the educated white liberal city of Columbia. So the state is going to be stuck liberal forever because the high-population areas outvote the conservative and normal areas that are geographically far larger but less populated and less organized.

57 posted on 11/06/2012 11:33:36 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: sickoflibs

Perhaps it’s all what we hear. I work in a predominate dem environment, I’m hearing dem upset about donation requests. There used to be so much talk about O, but I’ve heard nothing this election, but the complaints. They will prob still vote, but The enthusiasm has disappeared from the average dem, including Hispanics. I think the ones who are hyped up are those who are big Obamacare supporters. However most D’s I know are not that interested in OC, as rhey already have insurance.


58 posted on 11/06/2012 11:33:46 AM PST by HollyB
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To: sickoflibs

And yes, I didn’t know any Repub’s that were enthused about McCain.


59 posted on 11/06/2012 11:36:12 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Lacey2

I lived on the Eastern Shore for 20+yrs and Somerset County didn’t even have a Rep primary most years.Years ago a friend newly married and just turning 21 went and registered as a Rep. She was joyfull. When she got home her new husband was shocked and wondered what she did! After she told him about registering he laughted and said it was Ok that the head of the election board had called and changed her to a Dem. True story.


60 posted on 11/06/2012 11:50:30 AM PST by OldGMA
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