Posted on 11/06/2012 2:04:52 AM PST by Libloather
Russian attack sub discovered just 200 miles from the East Coast and given safe harbor from Hurricane Sandy
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 00:15 EST, 6 November 2012
U.S. defense officials are downplaying the potential threat of a Russian attack sub detected just 200 miles from the East Coast and given safe harbor in Florida during Hurricane Sandy.
The Russian Seirra-2 class submarine was believed to be part of the country's Northern Fleet, outfitted with SS-N-21 anti-submarine warfare missiles, SS-N-16 anti-submarine warfare missiles, and torpedos.
**SNIP**
Officials said the submarine was likely conducting anti-submarine warfare efforts against U.S. ballistic and cruise missile submarines at Kings Bay, Georgia.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Just Russia needing to pick up its spies prior to the administration change!
“The weather is getting bad here in the USA for them.
Uh...a Sierra-2 IS an attack sub.
The Russians have figured out that they can cruise the U.S. coastline with impunity.
You did fine :)
The other thread has a different source.
Two things:
1. The grammar of my sentence makes it seems like I am not aware that the sub is an attack sub due to the placement of “but it isn’t”. What I meant was that it was not incendiary because we are not in a state of conflict with Russia.
2. What would you suggest that the US do when those subs approach the US coast? Should we sink down some depth charges and start a war? Also, isn’t 200 miles the extended economic zone. Anything beyond it - and the article does not indicate that it was closer than this - would still be completely international waters.
Exactly.
Your general point is correct, but It's perfectly legal for a warship of any country to be within 200 nautical miles of any other countries' coast. Territorial waters are only 12 nm from the coast.
The entire Russian Navy could be 15 nm from the US coast and it would be perfectly legal, and we certainly wouldn't be sinking anyone.
Soviet vessels (and aircraft) were routinely within 200 nm of the US during the Reagan administration, and we didn't sink a single one of them. And throughout most of the cold war there were Soviet SSBNs with short range missiles on continuous patrol near Bermuda and Hawaii. Indeed, people need to calm down a bit.
If you read the replies and the other links, The Daily Mail embarassingly botched what they copied from the Free Beacon - the claim in the orginal story is that a Russian AGI was in Jacksonville, not a submarine.
And embarassingly and amusingly, both stories managed to misspell “Sierra.”
Well, that’s a world of difference.
It was given safe harbor?? Baloney.........
Still don’t believe it. All it had to do was travel away from the storm.
I agree, this article is crap.
Well, I’m not endorsing the veracity of any of the story - Bill Gertz is not reliable.
However it’s more plausible that an AGI would seek port than an SSN.
The Russians would let an SSN sink before they requested safe harbor in the US.
Safe harbor, a nice warm meal and the democrats sent a bus to drive them all to the nearest voting location.
Yes, it was an AGI. Still, there is going to be a lot of spooks running around Jacksonville Harbor. As soon as the ship is out of harbor they are going to send divers down to check the hull for all bugs we attached to it, LOL.
Makes no sense. There is something they are not telling us.
Perhaps there is a really good BBQ joint in Jacksonville.
A submarine seeking safe harbor from a storm at sea? This is BS ... a submarine simply dives to say 450 ft. and cruises along with little or no disturbance from wave action above.
it was a good gesture. And we get to take lots of close-up pictures. The ocean is not particularly clam under a the surface in a hurricane. Even subs need to get out of the way of big storms. A Soviet captain would have faced loss of command and worse, faced charges of being a spy at home for going into an American port like that.
I went through a hurricane in a US Submarine at > 400 feet. You slight roll slowly at that depth.
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