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The 2012 elephant in the room: George W. Bush
Baltimore Sun ^ | Oct 29 2012 | Jules Witcover

Posted on 11/05/2012 8:46:35 PM PST by WilliamIII

One of the most telling aspects of the 2012 presidential campaign now racing to its end is the matter of the vanishing former two-term Republican president. His name is so seldom mentioned by his party's nominee and other stalwarts as to take on the characteristic of a toxic distant uncle.

That other GOP two-termer, Ronald Reagan, continues posthumously to enjoy the stature of political sainthood among the faithful. But the 43rd president, who is the son and namesake of the 41st, has been neither seen nor heard from in the blizzard of speech-making and television advertising by and in behalf of party standard-bearer Mitt Romney.

Yes, the missing person in the picture would be George W. Bush, now seemingly under party house arrest back in Texas as Mr. Romney runs as far away as he can get from Mr. Bush and his White House tenure. Memories of the junior Bush economic hangover haunt not only President Barack Obama, still struggling to recover from it, but also the Republican who wants Mr. Bush's old job.

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If Romney loses, he'll be a victim of Bush's unpopularity, just like Landon in 36 was defeated because of the public's continued resentment of Herbert Hoover.

It's going to take a number of years for the GOP to get out from under the unpopularity of George Bush and his failed presidency.

1 posted on 11/05/2012 8:46:42 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

That’s freaking retarded. The man’s name hasn’t been on a ballot in nearly 10 years.


2 posted on 11/05/2012 8:48:46 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: WilliamIII

History will be far kinder to George W. Bush than the present. BO has pretty much pissed away all of the advantages which George W. Bush’s good policies have brought us and he has doubled down on his worst policies.


3 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:12 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: WilliamIII

If Romney loses, blame Herbert Hoover.


4 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:20 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: WilliamIII

Landon was defeated in 1936 because he did not campaign. In Fact in 1940 Wilkie ran against the New Deal when the bigger issue was war.


5 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:20 PM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: WilliamIII

GWB’s biggest lapse: he did nothing to defend the Republican brand.


6 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: WilliamIII

If so, the American people have become purely ignorant. Obama has more than enough record to defeat. If he wins, it is no more Bush’s fault than the annual Trillion dollar deficits we have now have.


7 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:54 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: WilliamIII

I had my best years when bush was president and many people love him.He looks very good after the bummer.


8 posted on 11/05/2012 8:51:26 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: WilliamIII
Well, I think GWB is a good man. But I have to reluctantly admit that President Barack Obama would not have been possible if it were not for Bush 43. Can we move on now?
9 posted on 11/05/2012 8:52:10 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Big Horn

Preach it, brother! From six figures to $560 a month.


10 posted on 11/05/2012 8:53:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: WilliamIII
It's going to take a number of years for the GOP to get out from under the unpopularity of George Bush and his failed presidency.

Complete BS. If this were true, the 2010 massacre of the Dims wouldn't have happened.

11 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:07 PM PST by paudio (5Bs: Bain, Big-bird, Binders, Bayonets, and... Bullshiter ! <= 0bama's campaign message)
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To: outofstyle

Bush did not defend the Republican brand, and McCain did so only in the most perfunctory fashion. So much flank was opened up for the media’s trashy, meretricious (not meritorious) attacks on the GOP.


12 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: WilliamIII

George Bush inspired me to come to America and be more American than liberals.

As a former Kanadian, I hated my own country and whomever hated Bush was my sworn enemy. Odumbo’s presidency makes Bush’s presidency look like Reagan’s.


13 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:19 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: JohnBrowdie

There were Kings in Israel who did a lot of things right, but did some things wrong ( like not destroying the groves, etc.)

Bush 43 is a decent man, IMHO. Should have done some stuff differently, but I was so glad Al Gore or John Kerry never had a shot at leading this country.


14 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:34 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: WilliamIII

bs. if romney loses it’s because 47% of americans pay no federal income tax and are interested in getting more money from the 53% that do. Cobble that together with Obama being black and getting 985 of that vote, rich liberals and hispanics who have decided to become members of the dem plantation and america is in deep kimshi.


15 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: outofstyle

President Barack Obama would not have been possible if it were not for Bush 43. Can we move on now?

Not if Obama is re-elected.


16 posted on 11/05/2012 8:54:43 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: JohnBrowdie

The man’s name hasn’t been on a ballot in nearly 10 years.

That was also true of Herbert Hoover, but the Democrats were able to dine out on his unpopularity for at least 20 years after he left office.


17 posted on 11/05/2012 8:56:59 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: JohnBrowdie

Liberals are getting desperate.


18 posted on 11/05/2012 8:57:19 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: WilliamIII
It's going to take a number of years for the GOP to get out from under the unpopularity of George Bush and his failed presidency.

Yep, those days of 5% unemployment and 1.84/gallon gas were sheer hell on earth.

19 posted on 11/05/2012 8:57:35 PM PST by Marathoner (If the bastard were to win reelection, let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: WilliamIII
If Romney loses, he'll be a victim of Bush's unpopularity

If Romney loses, it will be due to his liberalism.

20 posted on 11/05/2012 8:57:42 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: WilliamIII
Get Real

G W Bush is and was a ten times better man than the president that preceded him and the one that came after him.

21 posted on 11/05/2012 8:58:12 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I suppose it would be out of the question to blame the actual attacker? That’s like insisting that we have a gun problem when we really have a crime problem


22 posted on 11/05/2012 8:58:36 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not overtly- he used some wisdom on stem cell research, made a path for faith-based groups to work the margins...

Kept the pride factor up in the military services.

But, yes he could have pushed harder.


23 posted on 11/05/2012 8:58:51 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: WilliamIII

So now even the GOP candidate should blame the GOP former president for potentially losing?

What nonsense.


24 posted on 11/05/2012 8:59:00 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: WilliamIII

Bush was a great president and I despise how republicans do not defend him.

Clinton has 70 percent approval while bush has about 30.

He fought 2 wars successfully. He removed Charles Taylor. Ended genocide of south Sudan.

Shifted oil imports from ME to north America.

Kept America safe.

Prevented thousands of deaths during Katrina.

Stopped saddam Hussein.

Brought the deficit down to 260 billion. Got unemployment down to 4.7.

He saved gm and Chrysler and got that money back.


25 posted on 11/05/2012 8:59:14 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: WilliamIII
Memories of the junior Bush economic hangover haunt not only President Barack Obama, still struggling to recover from it, but also the Republican who wants Mr. Bush's old job.

Economic hangover?
If Barky had somehow maintained the economy and the employment where Bush left it, he would be a shoo-in for reelection.
Obama owns this recession 100% and if he wins we are going back down.

26 posted on 11/05/2012 8:59:29 PM PST by oldbrowser (Shellac Barac)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Bush did not defend the Republican brand

Because Bush was “better” than the Republican brand. “Compassionate” conservatism implies there’s something wrong with straight-up conservatism. Just as “pappy’s” “kinder and gentler” conservatism was a dig at Reagan. Two losers - George Sr and Jr, suggesting they know better than Reagan conservatism !


27 posted on 11/05/2012 8:59:50 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

You failed American History, didn’t you?


28 posted on 11/05/2012 9:01:05 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Vigilanteman

Not fiscally, and some foreign policy desicions were not a good idea.


29 posted on 11/05/2012 9:01:41 PM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: oldbrowser

the economy and the employment where Bush left it,

You mean when everyone - myself included - was worried about bank runs and general financial collapse? The last months of 2008 were a scary time, but maybe you’re an amnesiac?


30 posted on 11/05/2012 9:02:14 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: JohnBrowdie

How many times do you have to get fooled before it’s shame on you rather than shame on the one who fooled you?


31 posted on 11/05/2012 9:02:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: Perdogg

I used to have a couple of Landon campaign posters
in mint condition. Wish I could find them.


32 posted on 11/05/2012 9:03:24 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: WilliamIII
RE :”If Romney loses, he'll be a victim of Bush's unpopularity, just like Landon in 36 was defeated because of the public’s continued resentment of Herbert Hoover.
It's going to take a number of years for the GOP to get out from under the unpopularity of George Bush and his failed presidency.”

I cant defend GWB’s legacy however the GOP has made a ton of screw-ups since he left office, the most damaging ones the past two years.
GWB’s legacy is not helpful but he is not the sole cause of the GOP’s current problems, especially when he had the good sense to stay out of sight.

On day one of 2009 the Republican minority in congress should have purged their failed leadership. That is what I was saying. They needed to show they learned something.

And for a nominee they (GOP) picked someone who appears to be a Bush clone.

Lastly, Obama has not won yet. Best to save these for if that happens.

33 posted on 11/05/2012 9:03:24 PM PST by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The Republican Brand is crap, and needs to be torn down and replaced.

After a (hopefully significant) Romney win tomorrow night, we need to lay into the GOP leadership harder than ever. We got then all 3 Houses for 2000-2006, and we got little to show for it. We also failed miserably in the primaries to get a candidate that could attack Obama on Obamacare, or would attack him much at all. (The GOP strategy seemed to be to nominate a guy who would be tougher for the MSM to attack, and would play decent defense... not a horrible strategy, but most of us care FAR more about limited government and lower spending... which is why the Ryan VP pick was pretty good.)

Let's (hopefully) celebrate WED and THU... and once the weekend hits, let's remember to start changing the character of the Stupid Party, the Cowardly Leadership, and the Slightly-Slower-Socialism Strategies.

34 posted on 11/05/2012 9:03:43 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

More frequently than once per century.


35 posted on 11/05/2012 9:04:10 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: WilliamIII

What a load of crap! I’d vote for Bush again if I could.


36 posted on 11/05/2012 9:04:21 PM PST by Livin_large
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To: Teacher317

Hice, not Houses


37 posted on 11/05/2012 9:05:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hate to say it, but GWB ‘gave birth’ to Obama.


38 posted on 11/05/2012 9:06:16 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: WilliamIII
"If Romney loses, he'll be a victim of Bush's unpopularity.. It's going to take a number of years for the GOP to get out from under the unpopularity of George Bush and his failed presidency."

Pathetic sputtering from a faded glory BDSer.


39 posted on 11/05/2012 9:06:16 PM PST by I see my hands (They should have prepared.)
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To: lonestar67

Bush was a great president

If he was so great, why do no Republican candidates have him campaigning with them? Why isn’t he in GOP commercials? Why isn’t he at Romney’s rallies? Because the GOP knows that the public despises him and people haven’t forgotten the near-depression that was going on when Bush left office.

Reagan, in contrast, is the hero of every Republican, and his name can’t be mentioned enough. His picture is on the wall of every GOP headquarters and field office in the land. As it should be.


40 posted on 11/05/2012 9:06:27 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Barrack Obama ain’t a pimple on George Bush’s ass.


41 posted on 11/05/2012 9:06:27 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Barrack Obama ain’t a pimple on George Bush’s ass.

Bush’s unpopularity made the Obama presidency possible.


42 posted on 11/05/2012 9:10:01 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII; Revolting cat!
That other GOP two-termer

Nixon?

Ike?

Some writers only know Carter on.

It's more unlikely for Obama to be re-elected. Bill Clinton was the last Democrat to be elected to two terms since Harry S Truman and Clinton had help twice from Ross Pee-rot.

43 posted on 11/05/2012 9:10:41 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama killed Gadaffi. How's that working out these days?)
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To: Vigilanteman
History will be far kinder to George W. Bush than the present.

I hope not. He was nearly as destructive to conservatism as was Nixon, his dad, or Schwarzenegger.

Bush spent like a drunken retard in Iraq. He never fought back against the left. He tried to foist Harriet Miers, and gave us a Chief Justice who's looking more like Earl Warren by the day. He never hung the Community Reinvestment Act around the Democrats' necks. He built the DHS, the TSA, and neglected the border and Latin America to fester violent criminal communists. He never fixed the environmental agencies. When the floor gave, he merely caved to Goldman Sachs instead of letting some of those crooked RAT bastard banks sink.

Why should I celebrate George Bush?

44 posted on 11/05/2012 9:11:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: WilliamIII

LONG AGO when it was unpopular HERE to say it, I said Jorge El Segundo would become a curse on the lips of every conservative.


45 posted on 11/05/2012 9:11:25 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: WilliamIII

Wow you sound like Obama, Bush’s Fault Bush’s Fault Bush’s Fault. Bush did to much, he did not do enough, get over it! I respect him more for just staying the hell out of the way and being quiet. Unlike every friggin retarded Democrap ex president. Let the man be.


46 posted on 11/05/2012 9:12:36 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: Vigilanteman

Nearly every evil expanded under BO had it genesis under Jorge El Segundo.


47 posted on 11/05/2012 9:14:11 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
GWB’s biggest lapse: he did nothing to defend the Republican brand.

Exactly. He let the democraps attack with impunity until many of their lies are now considered gospel (Clinton had a surplus that W pissed away, for example). This BS about being "above the fray" only allows the democrats to make great gains.
48 posted on 11/05/2012 9:15:31 PM PST by youngidiot (He's got Mad Cow. She's living with him in the White House.)
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To: lonestar67
Bush was a great president and I despise how republicans do not defend him.

He didn't defend himself.

49 posted on 11/05/2012 9:16:33 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: WilliamIII

Bull Shit


50 posted on 11/05/2012 9:17:30 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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