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To: varmintman

Just curious if anyone knows what’s the procedure to abolish a federal agency like the EPA. Has it ever been attempted before?

I suspect the President could do a lot - such as refusing to appoint key members, refusing to spend the money Congress allocates, etc., but all that could be reversed by the next administration. I assume it would take action by Congress to completely eliminate an agency permanently.


6 posted on 11/05/2012 6:11:29 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: chrisser

“what’s the procedure to abolish a federal agency like the EPA.”

The sweetest thing would be to kill them with budget cuts. Follow that with legislation that requires Congressional approval of all regulations, and then strip them of the power to levy fines.


10 posted on 11/05/2012 6:19:25 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: chrisser

Just severely defund it .... along with planned parenthood .... as Newt suggested ....


12 posted on 11/05/2012 6:21:11 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: chrisser

If we had representatives with balls, it would be fairly trivial. Congress can simply refuse to allocate taxpayer dollars for a given organization.

Since this is never discussed much less implemented it’s clear that both parties aren’t serious about these kinds of things.

America is the “Saudi Arabia” of coal, with enough to last for hundreds of years. It’s relatively cheap, and dependable, and not required to send our money to overseas interests. It provides jobs to Americans - good paying jobs - and also to folks who might not have doctorates in navel gazing.

The problem we have faced as a people is the myriad organizations that have sprung up in recent decades both governmental and otherwise, that are not elected and unnacountable, (not that our elected reps are accountable) ; these are tailor made for control-freak wack jobs to implement far reaching policies without public or business review, and this isby design. That is the statist way in modern politics, legislation and legislators are just for show, the courts, lawyers, and NGOs and such actually run the show.


14 posted on 11/05/2012 6:28:44 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: chrisser

Removal Procedure:

CRAs on each measure. Need 50% to throw them out...Congressional Review Authorizations. Just heard it on WLS radio Chicago with Jake Hartford and John Kas—they had a senator on talking about this very topic.


32 posted on 11/05/2012 7:44:57 AM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: chrisser

Republicans promised to abolish the Dept. of Education since Reagan. Once these things are established, they are forever. That is the fear with Obamacare.


33 posted on 11/05/2012 8:10:47 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: chrisser

“Just curious if anyone knows what’s the procedure to abolish a federal agency like the EPA. Has it ever been attempted before?
I suspect the President could do a lot - such as refusing to appoint key members, refusing to spend the money Congress allocates, etc., but all that could be reversed by the next administration. I assume it would take action by Congress to completely eliminate an agency permanently.”

Just posted on another thread, but worth repeating here:


I want to see some kind of “Anti-Regulation Task Force” which will identify all new regulations imposed by Obama over the past four years. Once identified, it must become an important force within the new administration and the new Congress to repeal them, to restore “the pre-Obama status quo”.

Particular emphasis should be placed on the EPA. Not only must we revoke their regulations since 2008, but we should actually “go back further”, with an intent to undo as much of the EPA as is possible, short of outright dismantlement of that agency. I would prefer to abolish the EPA, but realize that that is a pipedream. Short of that, we can “take their teeth away”, if we really wish to do so. Read on...

For the long-term, I would like to see some kind of legislation on a national scale, or perhaps even a possible Constitutional Amendment, that will reign in the regulatory monster. The thrust of the amendment should be to establish within the Constitution the concept that ONLY CONGRESS (emphasis intentional) has the power to pass both laws AND regulations — with the intent that any new regulations passed by ANY agency or administration of the United States cannot become effective until there is a full vote in Congress to validate them.

I doubt that such an amendment could be passed by an existing Congress. Perhaps it’s time to actually use that part of the existing Constitution, that provides for a Constitutional Convention arising from the state level, and bypassing the Congress altogether.

I’ll put the tin foil hat back on the table now...


40 posted on 11/05/2012 9:49:29 AM PST by Road Glide
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