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This Might Be the First Legal Deer Ever Harvested with a Silencer in the State of Texas. Ever.
The Truth About Guns ^ | 3 November, 2012 | Nick Leghorn

Posted on 11/05/2012 5:07:52 AM PST by marktwain

Early this morning, just as the sun was coming up, I was sitting on a pair of buckets with Tyler Kee in his brand new deer blind when a beautiful love-struck buck wandered into our field following a doe that had run through a few seconds earlier. And as I lined up my scope for what would be the fourth headshot on wildlife in a row, the biggest thing that was running through my mind was “I might be about to make history…”

The state of Texas has always made hunting with silencers illegal for game animals. Something about poaching being harder to detect for the game wardens. Anyway, this year they changed the rules, and for the first time silencers would be legal to use on deer and other such “game” animals. The older generation isn’t very happy about the change, but its now 100% legal starting this hunting season.

A hunting season which, by the way, opened for modern rifles this morning.

Considering the number of people that actually own a can (small), and then the subset that hunts (even smaller) and the subset of that subset that was out this morning for the opening shots of the season (infinitesimal) its a good chance that my 7:45 AM shot may have been the quietest kill ever made in the state. Which, quite frankly, is pretty cool. Add on the fact that it was a 300 AAC Blackout rifle and it gets even better.

or those interested, here’s a quick rundown of the equipment:

* AR-15 in 300 AAC Blackout

* AAC 762-SDN-6 Silencer

* Millet DMS Scope

* PNW Arms Hunting Ammo (110gr Ballistic Tip)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; silencer; suppressor; tx
Suppressors, silencers, gun mufflers... they are entering the mainstream. Much reform is needed to existing firearms law. There is no logical reason to restrict gun mufflers.
1 posted on 11/05/2012 5:08:04 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Anybody know the velocity or the range?


2 posted on 11/05/2012 5:11:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

I sure hope he didnt disturb any other wildlife.


3 posted on 11/05/2012 5:11:39 AM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: marktwain

Okay....you guys from Montana and Colorado don’t laugh at our little Texas deer. I realize they look like mice compared to the big game in the Rockies, but it gets the men, with all their expensive hunting gear, out of the house on the first weekend in November...and their wives go shopping all weekend...so it’s a boost to the TX economy. We have more deer than adequate browsing acreage, so it’s good for the deer population as well.


4 posted on 11/05/2012 5:15:22 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: marktwain

I have had worse hearing problems from the high velocity smaller caliber rounds like the .223 than using the .338 Winchester magnum my preferred caliber in Alaska.

I have made my own suppressor but I would not just yet start using it while hunting, mostly because our critters tend to be bigger, badder, faster and more dangerous. the can works great on my .22 pistol and subsonics or even single fire short rounds. Good for backyard plinking.


5 posted on 11/05/2012 5:23:31 AM PST by Eye of Unk (President Romney, get used to it.)
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To: txrefugee
All we have in Idaho are little ones too. So don't feel bad.

(My son got this little one a few weeks ago)

6 posted on 11/05/2012 5:24:48 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: txrefugee

I went to a state park in southern Kentucky this summer and there were many dear along side the road and I was appalled at how emaciated they were. All of them. Once at the park facilities I asked a park ranger about their condition and he did not seem pleased that I was asking. With a scowl he said it was the product of overpopulation. That Texas deer looks amazing by comparison. The deer hear in Indiana are corn fed and fat fat fat.


7 posted on 11/05/2012 5:26:09 AM PST by Frapster (There you go again....)
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To: Frapster

Stupid iPad auto correct. Deer and here.


8 posted on 11/05/2012 5:27:40 AM PST by Frapster (There you go again....)
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To: Frapster

I know, its faster to post on my android at times than at home on the puter, I tried the auto complete and we locked horns immediately. So I just send single sentences usually.


9 posted on 11/05/2012 5:31:33 AM PST by Eye of Unk (President Romney, get used to it.)
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To: txrefugee
Oh, wait....I just noticed this set hanging on my wall...

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee19/bigheadfred_111/fair089.jpg

10 posted on 11/05/2012 5:31:47 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: marktwain

Is that how you guys always dress to go hunting?


11 posted on 11/05/2012 5:47:43 AM PST by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: gotribe

Just what I asked my wife. Damned preppy looking hunter. Is that the outfit he wore to field dress the deer or was this a managed hunt?
I wish suppressors and tree stands were outlawed.


12 posted on 11/05/2012 5:56:40 AM PST by em2vn
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To: gotribe
Is that how you guys always dress to go hunting?

Most deer hunting in Texas is done from blinds, on private property, so you need neither camo, to keep the deer from seeing you as you wander through the woods, nor bright orange to keep all the other guys wandering through the woods from shooting you.

13 posted on 11/05/2012 6:03:19 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

Interesting. Thanks.


14 posted on 11/05/2012 6:07:36 AM PST by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: em2vn

I agree, hunting is an effort, an adventure, get dirty!


15 posted on 11/05/2012 6:15:13 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: txrefugee

The reason that deer is so puny is because it is a 2 1/2 year old and appears to be from the Hill Country. That crappy limy soil does not produce big antlers or bodies.


16 posted on 11/05/2012 6:17:56 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: IslamE
Iagree, hunting is an effort, an adventure, get dirty!

Lots of places to do that in Texas. There are also lots of places where the deer population is so high, so destructively high, that harvesting deer is more akin to culling Canada Geese at a golf course. It is not a contest where one can cheat, but just prudent property management.

They all cook up the same.

17 posted on 11/05/2012 6:28:37 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: crusty old prospector

The reason that deer is so puny is because it is a 2 1/2 year old and appears to be from the Hill Country. That crappy limy soil does not produce big antlers or bodies.


I put out corn to feed the deer(the feeder is close to my house)and was suprised to see 38 fat feral hogs eating the corn.
That’s probably the reason deer are so puny.


18 posted on 11/05/2012 6:33:33 AM PST by freedommom
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To: freedommom

The OP pic sure does look like a antler restricted buck. I hope the OP was not in a AR county because the game wardens have more power here than the state police. Nice buck but would have let him walk for another year.


19 posted on 11/05/2012 7:01:55 AM PST by XXXoholic
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To: marktwain

Id like to see supressors widely available. Love ARs too, but ill just be charitable and say this is not a typical snapshot of Texas hunting. Deliberate headshots are considered unsportsmanlike. If you want to play junior military sniper, stick to HALO and Call to Duty video games.

That deer head is a small target. Blow a jaw off, or have that bullet graze across it’s face, and you condemn that deer to a slow starving death. This is the same mentality that shoots at deer from 600 yards away.
Marksmanship stunts belong on the range. The deer is owed a clean, dependable kill. Not shots that carry a significant chance of crippling.


20 posted on 11/05/2012 7:07:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Pilsner
that harvesting deer is more akin to culling Canada Geese at a golf course.

You would need a class 3 firearms license to do any effective goose culling around here. Even then you would run out of ammo long before you ran out of geese.

21 posted on 11/05/2012 7:07:53 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: marktwain

Are you sure that’s a deer ? I thought everything in Texas was BIGGER !!!!

I think you just bagged the largest Jackalope in Texas with a silencer Bud ,,,, That’s a small deer by Maryland standards .


22 posted on 11/05/2012 7:21:01 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: DesertRhino

You hit the nail on the head. It seems he was more interested in being the first silenced kill and making history than with with what he was shooting and how he was doing it. Definitely not typical.

On a side note, I have been to some ranches here in TX that put out feeders and it is like trying to shoot a deer at Mardi Gras...not really a sport. More like a circus. I mostly stick to birds these days for this reason.


23 posted on 11/05/2012 7:22:01 AM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: marktwain

,,,,, Looks more like a Texas Jackalope ,,,, Too small to be a deer .


24 posted on 11/05/2012 7:23:32 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: marktwain

Depending on what County you were in, might not want to show photo. The buck looks to be just barely or not quite meeting the BS 13” rule.

Having hunted for many years, not sure what advantage “silencer” gives. If we need to start hunting “anti-American progressives and Come-yets”, silencers will be good.


25 posted on 11/05/2012 7:26:11 AM PST by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: XXXoholic

2 hours ago had one at least that big tip-toeing around me sniffin the Tink’s 69. Couldn’t get him to look up “ears in alert position” to estimate the damn 13” rule without “alert” instantly turning into “alarm”.


26 posted on 11/05/2012 7:41:35 AM PST by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: willyd

Personally I am close to despising those who put out feed for the wild game animals .

It smacks of cheating ;putting out food is a first step to domesticating stray dogs and cats and why should deer react any differently?

I have no problem at all with those hunters harvesting deer and other wild animals for food nor for landowners reducing the population of unwanted wolves,coyotes,bears, or any other animal that is actually destructive or a real danger.

My area has plentiful deer who ruin gardens and cause car crashes daily;also we have coyotes killing our pets and no doubt some livestock of the few farmers still trying to survive. .(I’m pretty certain coyotes ran my cow to death before being scared off-happened a couple years ago.The DNR zealously protects the predators ,so i guess DNR officers are Democrats!)

I hope Kentuckians pass the admendment of their state constitution to protect hunting.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 7:44:10 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: gotribe
Is that how you guys always dress to go hunting?

LOL! Yeah, that's how we dress when it is 70 plus degrees on opening morning.

Nothing like sweating on a deer stand!
28 posted on 11/05/2012 7:50:20 AM PST by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: IslamE
***I agree, hunting is an effort, an adventure, get dirty!***

I can shoot all the deer legally from my back window. I don't even have to go outside, just raise the window and "bang". Now if I could just get the wife to go and cut them up.


29 posted on 11/05/2012 8:05:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: X-spurt

Chances are most folks would get away with harvesting a AR deer if they process it at home but is it really worth a minimum of 500 bucks or more for one 2.5 year old on the off chance a GW might decided to check you if you happen to run into one? Let the little guy go IMO and maybe next year he would be even better for you or someone else. Personally I wish their weren’t AR because I go for the meat but there are guys out there who want the trophy buck and AR in Texas seem to be working. Now if it was a spike, shoot his mutant ass all day long, their good eating. I recommend, right before you shoot, whistle and that will get a deer to stop moving and will get his ears up, but you got to be quick and decide if you’re going to shoot or not.


30 posted on 11/05/2012 8:25:39 AM PST by XXXoholic
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To: Eye of Unk

You may have just publicly confessed to a crime. You might consider having your post pulled.


31 posted on 11/05/2012 10:26:35 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Beelzebubba

I frequent a Texas hunting forum and heard a guy got fined $500.00 and had his buck taken by a GW because it had a 12-3/4” spread on the main beam when AR minimum 13” spread or one unbranched antler. So if a GW wants to ruin your day, they will over a measly 1/2 inch.


32 posted on 11/05/2012 12:10:06 PM PST by XXXoholic
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To: XXXoholic

Sorry, meant 1/4”!


33 posted on 11/05/2012 12:12:42 PM PST by XXXoholic
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To: Beelzebubba

You CAN make your own silencer, you just have to applied for, and received, a $200 NFA tax stamp. Tell them what the serial number and markings will be, the size, etc., and when you get the stamp you’re good to go, start building it.

There’s many, many people in the US who have legally built their own silencers.

Ed


34 posted on 11/05/2012 1:11:40 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: XXXoholic

Thanks for the Whitetail tips, have only been hunting em for 50 years.

Aside from the antler hunters, I do not see any herd benefit to the 13 inch horsedoo. Not sure the college boyz have published any hard data yet.

Spikes, of course. They’l always be spikes.


35 posted on 11/05/2012 1:37:00 PM PST by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: willyd
You hit the nail on the head. It seems he was more interested in being the first silenced kill and making history than with with what he was shooting and how he was doing it. Definitely not typical.

Agreed and also agreed with the post to which you originally replied. Just because he could take the head shot does not mean it's a good idea. It does seem he was primarily interested in claiming he was the first to take a deer with that equipmnt on his rig.

36 posted on 11/05/2012 1:50:31 PM PST by Fury
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To: Sir_Ed

All true, but I worry that the poster might not know all that. I’d wager that 99% of all DIY silencers did not comply with the unfortunate law.


37 posted on 11/05/2012 2:15:43 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Travis McGee

http://300aacblackout.com/

Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, and eclipses 5.56mm with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy.


38 posted on 11/05/2012 4:12:01 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: X-spurt; All
Having hunted for many years, not sure what advantage “silencer” gives.

It protects your hearing. I have lost quite a bit of mine. How about you?

I would particularily appreciate a silencer, as I would like to be able to use what hearing I have left to listen for game.

39 posted on 11/05/2012 4:40:05 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Not so much hearing loss as the “extra” non-stop ringing tinnitus. Hunting rifle shooting probably much less damaging than too many years of jet engines, power plants, hot rodding, hot hand loaded 44 mags and 60’s Rock and Roll.

Silencer is akin to mucho gaggets on a cell phone. Not essential, but cool and braggable.


40 posted on 11/05/2012 4:50:10 PM PST by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Beelzebubba

Well, if that’s the case, yeah...he’d be looking at 25 in the federal pen!

Hopefully, he being a Freeper, he went the legit route.

See ya’,

Ed


41 posted on 11/06/2012 3:48:24 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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