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The Worst News from Benghazi
American Thinker ^ | November 5, 2012 | James Lewis

Posted on 11/05/2012 12:26:50 AM PST by neverdem

It is now apparent that the president of the United States countermanded standing Pentagon orders to help American personnel under attack. Ambassador Stevens and three others were left to die without AC-130 Spectres and rescue teams that are always on standby in the Africom theater. Only the White House could have countermanded those standing orders, and we know that POTUS had an emergency meeting with Panetta and Hillary within 55 minutes of the start of the attack. AFRICOM's General Carter F. Ham was fired -- presumably for wanting to rescue the Americans under fire.

Ambassador Stevens and his people were left to die to protect a deep-cover NSC-CIA operation. But what could be so important that 32 Americans had to be abandoned to the mercy of al-Qaeda? Benghazi was a major gun-running operation, funneling armaments from the crushed Libyan regime of Moammar Gaddafi to rebel forces opposing Syria's Assad. Ambassador Stevens was negotiating with a whole Star Wars barroom thug collection of bad actors, a reported ten different jihadist militias operating in Benghazi.

The most damning Benghazi revelation is the Obama policy that led to the disaster: Obama's four-year policy of secretly supporting violent Islamists against civilized Muslims, like Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak, and modern-minded people in countries like Turkey and Iran. We used to support moderate Muslims until Obama took over; now we support our deadly enemies. In Benghazi, some of those gangster types turned against us, tore the cover off the operation, burned out Ambassador Stevens, and killed American defenders with mortar fire. Our defenders had the AQIM mortar crew laser-marked for jet bombers and gunships that never showed up.

We now have four solid years of Obama administration support for radical jihadi movements against the modern world. The United States has abandoned any moral basis for its...

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1 posted on 11/05/2012 12:26:58 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No wonder the MSM doesn’t want the public to know about this!


2 posted on 11/05/2012 12:32:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: neverdem
AFRICOM's General Carter F. Ham was fired -- presumably for wanting to rescue the Americans under fire.

Link, idiot child?

Drive-bys are obnoxious, left or right!

3 posted on 11/05/2012 12:35:40 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
According to Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-UT03, General Ham was still very much in command, as of 1 October, when the two of them traveled together from AFRICOM HQ in Stuttgart to Libya.

www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/general_ham_is_still_commander_of_us_africa_command.html

4 posted on 11/05/2012 12:43:59 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: neverdem

The most damning Benghazi revelation is the Obama policy that led to the disaster: Obama’s four-year policy of secretly supporting violent Islamists against civilized Muslims, like Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak, and modern-minded people in countries like Turkey and Iran.>>>>>>>>>>>>

Treason is a crime , is it not?


5 posted on 11/05/2012 12:47:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: neverdem
Ambassador Stevens and three others were left to die ...

Actually 41 people were left to die. 37 made it out alive because two former SEALs gave their lives to defend them.

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Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.

Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker

They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.

Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37

There are three scandals here...

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Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.

The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.

ONE man had the authority to act that night.

ONE man deserted his post!

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

0bama was MIA. 0bama Is A Deserter!

6 posted on 11/05/2012 12:47:54 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: All
Herridge On Cable Month Before Benghazi Attack: "Smoking Gun Warning Here"

There was no surprise about the attack. There was no 'failure of intel.' The attack was predicted in precise detail a month before it occurred. The draw down of security had to be intentional.

CIA Sources: Obama ordered military not to help Ambassador Stevens

The failure to approve a rescue had to be intentional.

Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack

Keeping the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG) in the dark about the attack had to be intentional.

Tweeting apologies for the 'anti-Muhammed video' beginning early that morning, repeatedly blaming all the violence at all of our embassies on the 'video' and making an apology video to air in Pakistan had to be intentional.

Stevens presence in Benghazi on 9-11 had to be intentional.

7 posted on 11/05/2012 12:50:34 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: neverdem

BTTT...


8 posted on 11/05/2012 12:56:52 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: neverdem

It’s Carter and Iran times 5. Carter wanted the Shah of Iran pulled down too. When the pitfalls were brought to his attention, he shrugged it off, saying that the Ayatollah was a religious man, so he was sure we could come to reasonable understanding.

Course, if you believe Ollie North, Carter wanted the Shah to breach his contract with British Company for oil, cause he wanted his buddies to have the contract. Shah didn’t want to. Carter helped make sure the Shah was deposed.


9 posted on 11/05/2012 12:58:39 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TigersEye

Probably the biggest scandal is that Obama was funneling guns to Al-Qaeda operatives. That’s right, he was aiding and abetting the enemy. That, I think, is the biggest thing he didn’t want to have come out.

The entire ‘Arab Spring’ was orchestrated by Obama’s team, and it has largely been the reassembling of the caliphate under the AQ-allied, jihadist, Muslim Brotherhood.


10 posted on 11/05/2012 1:10:14 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: greeneyes

I never heard about the oil, but the US was building a huge network of docks, locks and I think dams for the Shah. Some of Carter’s buddies showed up, uninvited and tried to take over the project for a cut of US aid. Shah said ‘No. Work has been contracted out.’ Buddies said they wanted a cut of the aid (No Show payments). Shah threw them out of the country. Carter began to depose him at that time.


11 posted on 11/05/2012 1:23:19 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: cynwoody

that is pretty idiotic that the same website posts an article about Ham being fired but yet earlier in the week posted an article saying that is a rumor. Get it together.


12 posted on 11/05/2012 1:28:14 AM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: cynwoody

Um, the quote you asked for a link to from the “idiot child” (”AFRICOM’s General Carter F. Ham was fired — presumably for wanting to rescue the Americans under fire.”) is a direct quote from the linked article...


13 posted on 11/05/2012 1:29:25 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: neverdem

the worst news is that there is no nooze, its over, Onama got away with another attrocity


14 posted on 11/05/2012 1:43:33 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: neverdem

Ham is still in charge. Why post this crap?


15 posted on 11/05/2012 1:51:22 AM PST by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Only to point this out...but coverage of Syria stopped almost entirely around the same time that this episode unfolded. CNN used to have tons of live video feed from Syria’s little war. I haven’t seen anything much in two months now.


16 posted on 11/05/2012 2:24:47 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: greeneyes
Obama is Carter3
17 posted on 11/05/2012 2:43:37 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 9YearLurker

You can’t help but think with anger and sorrow our fellow americans who were so brutally murdered on september 11, 2001.
Makes me sick.


18 posted on 11/05/2012 2:43:44 AM PST by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: waxer1

And the thousands we have lost in wars against the same enemy since.


19 posted on 11/05/2012 2:46:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Obama needs to give back that “Peace Prize”


20 posted on 11/05/2012 2:52:16 AM PST by Swingj (Obama going down...)
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To: 9YearLurker

Obama needs to give back that “Peace Prize”


21 posted on 11/05/2012 2:52:16 AM PST by Swingj (Obama going down...)
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To: 9YearLurker

Amen. So sad.


22 posted on 11/05/2012 2:55:02 AM PST by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: neverdem

Wonder where else Obama has...

1)gun running operations..
2)military secret selling/giving..
3)assassination plots domestic and international..
4)various kinds of money laundering operations..
5)drug finagling..
6)voter fraud mechanisms.. domestic(fed/state/local) and foreign..
7)One worlder plans to eliminate national sovereignty..

** and God knows what other mischief and malfeasance..


23 posted on 11/05/2012 3:10:30 AM PST by hosepipe (What mentality could drool this nonsense with starting laughing)
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To: gotribe

[ Ham is still in charge. Why post this crap? ]

Gen. HAm has as much power as Charlie McCArthy.. more like Mortimer Snerd..
Course Morty could be Gen. Petreaus..


24 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:30 AM PST by hosepipe (What mentality could drool this nonsense with starting laughing)
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To: neverdem; All

If the GOP House does not start Impeachment proceedings first thing upon return to Washington after the election...then the GOP will be complicit in this

We need to hold the GOP feet to the fire as much as Obama Admin. Bad enough that the GOP has been Obama Supporter on the Eligibility/Birth Certificate issue...and lame on Fast and Furious....the GOP refusing to impeach means that they are complicit with Obama on Benghazi


25 posted on 11/05/2012 3:22:41 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: TigersEye
Ambassador Stevens and three others were left to die ...
Actually 41 people were left to die. 37 made it out alive because two former SEALs gave their lives to defend them.
It is now apparent that the president of the United States countermanded standing Pentagon orders to help American personnel under attack. Ambassador Stevens and three others were left to die without AC-130 Spectres and rescue teams that are always on standby in the Africom theater. Only the White House could have countermanded those standing orders
0bama was MIA.
It appears to be worse than that, and that it’d have been better if he had been “MIA."
Wire service journalism hasn’t been “MIA” either. Worse, much worse.

26 posted on 11/05/2012 3:27:26 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ¬ďliberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: neverdem

I knew about this administration arming terrorists with advanced weapons.

Could one part of the equation be that an AC-130 would have been vulnerable to the weapons we provided the terrorists?

If so, I can see Obama not having the testicles to take the chance of a rescue turning out to be a slaughter and loss of multiple aircraft and assets.

Could Obama have known that this attack was bait in an attempt to lure US aircraft into the area so they could be downed with US weapons?

There are more questions than answers.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 3:40:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

ping


28 posted on 11/05/2012 4:01:18 AM PST by Whats the Matter with Kansas? (One day till Independence Day!!)
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To: neverdem

The democrats and their allies the MSM have successfully kept the truth from the public. On the eve of the election they have kept this from being in the news.

If Bush were president they would be crowing that Bush let the ambassador die because Bush hates gay people.


29 posted on 11/05/2012 4:03:15 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: neverdem

Orlando Sentinel poll on whether media cover-up of Benghazi is to help Obama, says “yes” by 85-15%

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/todaysbuzz/os-poll-libya-benghazi-terrorist-attack-110512,0,5442651,post.poll

FReep it some more


30 posted on 11/05/2012 4:08:20 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: TigersEye
The intel shows the terrorist attack was planned then the protest in Egypt was planned as a cover.

The idea was to make it appear as if the terrorist are so in tune with the news they can pick up on a news story and plan an attack in a matter of minutes. In other words spontaneous.

That is the reason for the initial lie.

When the spontaneous lie fell through the only thing they could do was continue the lie so people would keep repeating there is no connection between the attack and the protest..

The lie is working. People are now under the impression there is no connection between the protest and the attack.

When you get to the truth, the terrorist attack was planned then the protest was planned as a cover, that pushes the planning for the attack back months.

You are 100% correct.

It is impossible to plan an attack against a particular person, on a particular day, at a particular location unless someone can guarantee they will be there on that particular day.

At a minimum, Hillary must be in the loop.

The fact the dems tied Zippo to the hip of Carter during the dem convention wasn't just a coincidence.

This was supposed to be set up for another Carter/Reagan “October Surprise” and blame it on the republicans.

31 posted on 11/05/2012 4:22:41 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: TigersEye

Where are you getting that “41” number? I can’t seem to find it referenced anywhere. I’ve seen 30, 36, & more recently, the 41, but none of them had a source. TIA!


32 posted on 11/05/2012 4:57:49 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: SeminoleCounty

That isn’t going to happen. GOP leadership will go along to get along, just as they always do. Even TEA Party backed members will sit quietly...except Louie Gohmert, after hours. Senators will not do more than whisper.

What a disappointment Congress is!!


33 posted on 11/05/2012 6:36:34 AM PST by jch10 (BO went to bed and let Americans die.)
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To: neverdem

It is going to be just like Fast and Furious. Nothing will happen, the elections will come and go and whether he stays or goes NOTHING will be done, there will be no consequence to Clinton or BOs life or career.


34 posted on 11/05/2012 7:28:53 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: SeminoleCounty
True!!! but there aren't enough loyal citizens in congress (yet). Too many gutless “politicians”, OB will skate, like slick willy.
To start proceedings, it will take courage, and then the outcry from BHO supports will be great (even violent?).
It would be a serious action.
I wish it could happen, (don't count on it)
Thanks
35 posted on 11/05/2012 7:44:37 AM PST by kimtom (USA on the Brink)
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To: piytar; BootsOfEscaping
Um, the quote you asked for a link to from the “idiot child” (”AFRICOM’s General Carter F. Ham was fired — presumably for wanting to rescue the Americans under fire.”) is a direct quote from the linked article...

James Lewis deserves the label. You don't make such an explosive charge without citing evidence. And, as Boots points out, the definitive contrary evidence I cited is found on the same site on which Lewis's article appears.

American Thinker's editorial quality has become a bit uneven over the last year or two.

36 posted on 11/05/2012 9:55:40 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: neverdem

Where’s the autopsy report? Immediately after the attack, there were some gruesome claims about what was done to Ambassador Stevens before and after his murder. There needs to be an autopsy report.


37 posted on 11/05/2012 10:03:39 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: neverdem

Obama: the only man capable of making kooks like Alex Jones seem perversely PRESCIENT...! The Bengazi gun-running op was only the veeery latest high-risk plan to ARM OUR ENEMIES. Latin America, Middle East...it is more and more clear he might have started all of this right after his election. What might he do in the NEXT four years, if re-elected..?

The left has been shrieking about the United Fruit company for decades, as if stuck in some kind oird time-warm, but now, lo and behold they have become exactly the type of treacherous shadow operators they warned everyone of.

With the revelations darker and darker, what are we now to DISbelieve...?

Are the stories of limo backseat crack and fellatio wrong?

WITH THIS MAN, WHO KNOWS...?


38 posted on 11/05/2012 11:07:57 AM PST by gaijin
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
It appears to be worse than that, and that it’d have been better if he had been “MIA."

Yes, he is a deserter. In the heat of battle he was at his post and turned his back and walked away from it.

39 posted on 11/05/2012 11:10:36 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: neverdem

Obama: the only man capable of making kooks like Alex Jones seem perversely PRESCIENT...! The Bengazi gun-running op was only the veeery latest high-risk plan to ARM OUR ENEMIES. Latin America, Middle East...it is more and more clear he might have started all of this right after his election. What might he do in the NEXT four years, if re-elected..?

The left has been shrieking about thethe United Fruit company for decades, as if stuck in some kind weird time-warm, but now, lo and behold they have become exactly the type of treacherous shadow operators they warned everyone of.

With the revelations darker and darker, what are we now to DISbelieve...?

Are the stories of limo backseat crack and fellatio wrong?

WITH THIS MAN, WHO KNOWS...?


40 posted on 11/05/2012 11:15:17 AM PST by gaijin
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To: I want the USA back; KTM rider
The democrats and their allies the MSM have successfully kept the truth from the public. On the eve of the election they have kept this from being in the news.

Petraeus’s Quieter Style at C.I.A. Leaves Void on Libya Furor

Not completely. That was in Saturday's NY Times. Go figure.

Obama’s legacy: The blunder in Benghazi

WaPo today!

41 posted on 11/05/2012 11:25:01 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Nita Nupress
US diplomats, Marine rescue team were also attacked at safe house, Libyans say Sept. 12,2012

Most of the early reports said that 37 people were evacuated from the consulate to Tripoli. Plus four dead equals 41.

42 posted on 11/05/2012 11:37:39 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

Thank you!


43 posted on 11/06/2012 10:50:27 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
You're welcome.

I cannot vouch for the absolute accuracy of that figure but it is what was reported in several publications at the time and I have seen no other reports on those survivor-evacuees since then. It is difficult to find those early reports now through searches FWIW. I wish I had bookmarked more of them but it took me a couple of days to realize that I would want an extensive file on this.

44 posted on 11/06/2012 10:58:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem
See this for additional detai and pieces of the puzzle:


45 posted on 11/08/2012 5:29:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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