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Is there a Plan B for the state budget if California's Proposition 30 fails?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 11/4/12 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 11/04/2012 9:31:27 AM PST by SmithL

Gov. Jerry Brown has framed it as a simple choice for voters: Pass Proposition 30 or schools will suffer early shutdowns and college students will pay higher tuition.

But education leaders privately have discussed fallback efforts to spare schools from some of the worst consequences, especially after the initiative fell below 50 percent in recent polls.

School groups are expected to lobby hard to reverse or ease budget reductions headed their way if voters reject Proposition 30. They have two main paths: the Capitol or the courts.

"The education community will use every tool at its disposal to fight the cuts," said Kevin Gordon, a longtime K-12 lobbyist.

Brown insists the budget is a closed book. He says he will not revisit the prescribed cuts to education, so schools must deal with less funding this year if voters reject Proposition 30. He promises to be a stubborn gatekeeper, no matter how hard education forces lobby.

"The cuts are in the budget, the law of California," Brown said Thursday in San Francisco. "They cannot be changed unless the Legislature wants to reverse it and the governor signs the bill, and I won't sign the bill. You can take that to the bank."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: goldenstate; moonbeam; prop30; taxandspend

1 posted on 11/04/2012 9:31:31 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

CA will never have enough money to educate and feed Mexico’s children.


2 posted on 11/04/2012 9:38:59 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: SmithL
Is there a Plan B for the state budget if California's Proposition 30 fails?

Most of the people I have talked to, do not want to vote themselves a hefty tax increase. I surely do not.

3 posted on 11/04/2012 9:39:22 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17

Then why did they vote for Gov. Moonbeam 2 years ago?


4 posted on 11/04/2012 9:41:12 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Mark17

Well my plan B would be to vote out the tax and spend politicians......but that’s just me.


5 posted on 11/04/2012 9:44:39 AM PST by sheana
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To: TruthWillWin

Because the Republican ran to his left. At least Brown promised not to raise taxes without a vote of the people. The Republican never signed the no-new-taxes pledge and never even matched Brown’s promise.


6 posted on 11/04/2012 9:48:37 AM PST by calif_reaganite
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To: SmithL
Moonbeam (third time is a charm) is plan B.

Truth is, it is a lousy plan.

7 posted on 11/04/2012 10:00:38 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SmithL

So “some education officials” think that Brown can wiggle out of this by assuming that more tax money will come in? Wow. What are they basing that assumption on? Any rational person looking at California would have to think money from state taxes is going to decline as more businesses leave the state. Oh.....they’re betting on that choom tax. That’s where you smoke some choom and suddenly everything seems more mellow and all the people will be cool with raising their taxes. Choom for all!!!


8 posted on 11/04/2012 10:09:45 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL
Plan B:

1. Fire all but a few of the administrators
2. Cram the students into as few buildings as possible and sell/lease the empty "edifices to ego" to private industry
3. Eliminate all remedial courses at the college level and force students who aren't ready back to junior colleges
4. etc.

9 posted on 11/04/2012 10:13:27 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SmithL
Pass Proposition 30 or schools will suffer early shutdowns and college students will pay higher tuition.

Who gives a damn. The school system has been and always will be pumping out little liberal communist Democrats anyway. As long as we have Democrats running California there is no hope for this State.

10 posted on 11/04/2012 10:33:32 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SmithL

Being a resident of California all my life I am FRIGGING SICK AND TIRED of these lying SOB’s threatening me EVERY TWO YEARS with cutting education and public safety funding! When are people going to wake up and realize that it DOESN’T MATTER how much money we throw at government, there will NEVER be enough! Come on people! They are threatening you. Can’t you see it??


11 posted on 11/04/2012 10:44:01 AM PST by Liberty4California (Free California from the Leftists.)
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To: SmithL
Plan A is a federal bailout. There is no plan B.

Everything else is theater.

12 posted on 11/04/2012 10:49:14 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Liberty4California
When are people going to wake up and realize that it DOESN’T MATTER how much money we throw at government, there will NEVER be enough!

Money and control are to government as heroin and cocaine to addicts.

13 posted on 11/04/2012 10:55:18 AM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: SmithL

Nonsense, we have the California Lottery, which has “Saved Our Schools.”


14 posted on 11/04/2012 11:01:19 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: tacticalogic

President Mitt Romney to CA Congressional delegation and State leadership early in Jan ‘13—”Not one thin dime, no bailout, no waiver,no nothing until the State enacts x,y,z, reforms.”. No downside, no electoral college votes. Upside is enhanced economy.


15 posted on 11/04/2012 11:05:46 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: txrefugee

I agree. I’m no longer concerned about California’s education establishment as who in their right mind would tax themselves to pay for the education of alien invaders?


16 posted on 11/04/2012 11:17:38 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SmithL
Fire 90% of school administrators and eliminate all their fringe benefits.

Make it when I went to school in the 40s where the minimum class size was 43 and if smaller was combined with another class.

maintain absolute discipline in the classroom with spanking suspension and failing grades which would eliminate the need for at least half of the so called teachers!

17 posted on 11/04/2012 11:20:39 AM PST by dalereed
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To: SmithL

Plan B is to try again in 6 months to raise taxes.


18 posted on 11/04/2012 11:47:56 AM PST by Redcloak (A founding member of Drunkards for Romney)
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To: SmithL

Hmm, so you mean the democrats were lying and blackmailing the citizens of California? Well, people get what they deserve - just keep voting California off a cliff.


19 posted on 11/04/2012 12:45:01 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

If it fails, they do most of it anyway?


20 posted on 11/04/2012 1:04:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SmithL

Not one damn person in ALL OF THE MEDIA has ever bothered to ask the most basic question::

If enrollment in our Public Schools is going DOWN by between 5% and 10% Annually, WHY DO THEY NEED MORE MONEY??

In other words We have fewer Students than last year, and last year had fewer than the previos year, ( for about 10 years now) WHY DO THEY NEED MORE MONEY?


21 posted on 11/04/2012 1:32:33 PM PST by eyeamok
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