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November surprise: EPA planning major post-election anti-coal regulation
The Washington Examiner ^ | 11/4/12 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 11/04/2012 8:52:44 AM PST by markomalley

President Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency has devoted an unprecedented number of bureaucrats to finalizing new anti-coal regulations that are set to be released at the end of November, according to a source inside the EPA.

More than 50 EPA staff are now crashing to finish greenhouse gas emission standards that would essentially ban all construction of new coal-fired power plants. Never before have so many EPA resources been devoted to a single regulation. The independent and non-partisan Manhattan Institute estimates that the EPA’s greenhouse gas coal regulation will cost the U.S. economy $700 billion.

The rush is a major sign of panic by environmentalists inside the Obama administration. If Obama wins, the EPA would have another four full years to implement their anti-fossil fuel agenda. But if Romney wins, regulators will have a very narrow window to enact a select few costly regulations that would then be very hard for a President Romney to undo.

Environmentalists at the EPA pulled this trick before in 2000 when the Clinton administration rushed out a finding that Mercury emissions from power plants were a growing public health threat pursuant to the Clean Air Act. That finding did not regulate power plants itself, but it did force the Bush administration to begin a lengthy regulatory process. The Obama EPA has estimated that this regulation alone will cost the U.S. economy $10.9 billion a year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticoal; coal; epa; epaoutofcontrol; eparegulations

1 posted on 11/04/2012 8:52:47 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Romney’s first order of business. Fire these dick heads.


2 posted on 11/04/2012 8:55:16 AM PST by Roklok
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To: Roklok

They must de-fund that pig ASAP. And fire the asshats therein.


3 posted on 11/04/2012 8:57:17 AM PST by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: markomalley
If you eliminate competition from "fossil fuels," "green energy" becomes economically feasible.

An economic catastrophe as well, but who cares about that?

4 posted on 11/04/2012 8:58:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: markomalley

And if we actually had real Americans in congress they would ABOLISH the EPA post haste


5 posted on 11/04/2012 8:58:36 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: markomalley

Line them all up neath a coal conveyor belt and “scatter, smother, and cover” them with their undoing!


6 posted on 11/04/2012 8:59:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

Again, I ask where does a president get the power to order this? If he wins, the takeover will be damn close to complete.

And I want to tell all the liberals standing in line with gas cans, get ready to pay $50 for 5 gallons. Can’t afford it? Then freeze to death.


7 posted on 11/04/2012 8:59:38 AM PST by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: Roklok

Firing is too lenient with these assholes...


8 posted on 11/04/2012 9:00:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

When Romney wins these ba$tards will have 2-1/2 months to finish ruining the economy. This is just the tip of the iceberg.


9 posted on 11/04/2012 9:00:36 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: markomalley

Couldn’t a super majority undo it should it be implemented?


10 posted on 11/04/2012 9:01:04 AM PST by Kevin in California
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To: markomalley

The Democrats really must enjoy destroying their electability in PA, OH, and WV.


11 posted on 11/04/2012 9:01:40 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: markomalley

Close down the entire EPA fire every last one of these criminals and create a new agency oil, coal and nuclear friendly.


12 posted on 11/04/2012 9:02:45 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: markomalley
Had a lady in my store last Wednesday from Oklahoma who is very active within the GOP.

She told me that The Kenyan has several EOs ready to announce on November 7th. - all concerning Environmental Protection.

Seems she is correct.

13 posted on 11/04/2012 9:02:57 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: markomalley
costly regulations that would then be very hard for a President Romney to undo.

Why would it be hard for President Romney to undo? Couldn't he just nullify the new regs with an EO? At the very least, he can refuse to enforce the law, the way Obama has done with DOMA.

14 posted on 11/04/2012 9:03:07 AM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: markomalley
By killing coal they kill it for good for other uses. Look Natural Gas via Fracking and it's low price point has dramatically changed our energy mix, i.e. many Power-Plants have gone Gas because it is so cheap. Coal has gone from 44% to 39% of the Mix.

However coal to oil via the Fischer Tropsch Process can supposedly yield low sulfur Diesel "JP" fuels ideally suited for our airline fleet and our military.

This is at $25 a barrel. Now if Gas to Oil is done at an even lower pricepoint, than that is another matter that needs to be discussed.

15 posted on 11/04/2012 9:03:25 AM PST by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Shadow44

This ought to put the lid on King Bozo Oilless in PA, WV and OH...that would Nail It for Mitt...


16 posted on 11/04/2012 9:04:07 AM PST by Shady (Hey, King Bozo Osmocote....you can't hide the truth anymore..,)
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To: markomalley
I remember during the primary debates, Rick Perry boldly stated the he would end funding to three federal agencies. Then he proceeded to name two of them, and simply could not come up with the third agency which he would boldly de-fund.

Someone helpfully suggested the EPA. Rick chucked and said "EPA, right!" and then kept trying to remember the name of the third agency. After he gave up entirely, the moderator of the debate tried to clarify: "Gov. Perry, is EPA one of the agencies?" and Perry smiled and said, "No. But I'll think of the name later."

He should have had EPA is in top three.

17 posted on 11/04/2012 9:04:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: markomalley
Odungo's revenge
18 posted on 11/04/2012 9:05:28 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: taildragger

Obama’s EPA has plans to make fracking much more expensive, also.


19 posted on 11/04/2012 9:06:35 AM PST by Eva
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To: markomalley

Use of the word surprise here is silly. This is not surprise. If Obama wins it will simple be the expected revealing of this real agenda. If he is not, it will still be a revelation of his agenda, but in a greatly accelerated pace. So many things to screw up before January 20.


20 posted on 11/04/2012 9:09:07 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Kevin in California

Yes, theoretically, the EPA could be reined in or abolished, through legislation by Congress, and signed into law by a president.

These unelected liberal EPA bureaucrats have way too much power. The EPA, and all government agencies, serve under the President and Congress, not the other way around. Elected officials are supposed to tell them what to do, not the other way around.

Yes, Congress and a President can override anything the EPA does. Whether the political will is there to do so remains to be seen.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 9:13:32 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: markomalley

Bump


22 posted on 11/04/2012 9:15:42 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: markomalley

New law needed: all regulations wanted by any government agency, must be passed by both houses of congress in stand alone bills.


23 posted on 11/04/2012 9:18:26 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: taildragger
The last price point I was aware of was $60 per barrel. If the price is down to $25 per barrel for diesel then what in the hell are we waiting for?
24 posted on 11/04/2012 9:21:12 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: markomalley

Time to make this known in the coal states, especially PA.


25 posted on 11/04/2012 9:43:46 AM PST by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Whether the political will is there to do so remains to be seen.

Congress is so "bought and paid for" they very seldom, if ever, work FOR the citizens of the Country.

26 posted on 11/04/2012 9:54:02 AM PST by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: Eva

They are flaring the well just over the hill from me right now...sounds like ENERGY INDEPENDENCE and WORK!


27 posted on 11/04/2012 9:54:04 AM PST by Shady (Hey, King Bozo Osmocote....you can't hide the truth anymore..,)
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To: Nuc 1.1

Exactly... Beck had a bud on that wanted to go Coal to Oil for 25/barrel for his airlines, but they needed a bond from Fedzilla to do it and they wouldn’t ( a hedge against the Saudi’s dropping to $10 a barrel ).


28 posted on 11/04/2012 10:08:06 AM PST by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Shady

Are you in PA? Obama has actually come out with support for fracking in PA, but nowhere else. Obama realized early on that he would lose the election in PA if he opposed fracking. He also sent the Carlisle Group into to Philadelphia with eased EPA regulations to ease the gasoline crunch there.

Don’t look for it to last if Obama wins re-election.


29 posted on 11/04/2012 10:20:31 AM PST by Eva
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To: taildragger

You are way too optimistic.

After coal is destroyed, fracking is next on the list.

“Coal oil” is NOT bio-Diesel. Therefore, it cannot be allowed.

Environmentalism is an irrational, urealistic religious cult.

Their goal is for all of us to starve in the cold and the dark so that they can feel good about saving Gaia. They’re evil.


30 posted on 11/04/2012 10:30:08 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: markomalley

Twitter it and tag it #Ohio #PA #Obama let’s get this out there!!!


31 posted on 11/04/2012 10:39:43 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: 43north
I understand they are dirt worshiping cultist. Then Romney has to consolidate EPA/DOE/Interior into a new Dept and downsize the livin' crap out of it for starters.

My guess is before you know it, Liberals will be screaming at their financial advisers to get them some Fracking Mutual Funds just like they did in the 90's to get some Tech Funds, after all they have to keep up with their friends getting huge returns....When that happens all their Enviro self interest will go out the door, money talks more than anything....

32 posted on 11/04/2012 10:43:01 AM PST by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: szweig

I have been told that the AFL-CIO President is in Eastern Ohio this weekend telling coal miners that Obama is on their side. What a freakin joke!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzNUZVv0A0


33 posted on 11/04/2012 10:48:22 AM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: taildragger
That is interesting. I seem to recall that situation. I’ don't recall the bond angle but $25 per bbl has got to be worth it.
34 posted on 11/04/2012 11:08:07 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Roklok

It is not that easy. As Mark Levin explained, most of these oppressors were hired into the civil service where they cannot be touched.

OTOH, I don’t see why Romney’s EPA cannot rescind the regs.


35 posted on 11/04/2012 11:45:01 AM PST by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: taildragger

“By killing coal they kill it for good for other uses.”

Our company also uses coal indirectly. A very large percentage of our plants in the eastern US use synthetic gypsum exclusively to make sheetrock. Synthetic gypsum precipitates out when stack gases from coal plants are “scrubbed” of sulfur content. The syngyp is generally 96% pure. Most of our new plants are built very close to coal power plants. If these plants are eliminated, some of our plants may have to be shut down.


36 posted on 11/04/2012 11:57:24 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: markomalley

The residents and businesses still in the dark from Sandy aren’t begging for solar panels and wind turbines. They are begging for gas and diesel for generators because they need power all the time, not just in daylight and wind.


37 posted on 11/04/2012 11:59:47 AM PST by matt04
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To: markomalley

Clinton pulled this with a wide range of regulations:

- Clean water standards on rangelands for ephemeral streams - one cowpie when the stream was running was enough to cause problems for a rancher.

- Pesticide regulations and safety “standards” that are based on idiotic notions of toxicology which are not backed up by science. A whole host of pesticides were de-labeled as a result, driving costs to farmers up.

- Clean water standards on arsenic were reduced from 50 ppb to 10 ppb, which has no justification in any research. Again, based on witchcraft posing as science. This single regulation cost taxpayers in the intermountain west hundreds of millions of dollars when their local muni water sources no longer were in compliance because the west has a lot of ground water that’s anywhere from 15 ppb to 45 ppb arsenic.

I could go on and on, but there’s lots of regs that Clinton left in the EPA on the way out the door that caused huge problems for the country. Bush tried to reverse the arsenic reg, but caught huge blowback in the press from it. The environazi’s had a pre-planned press package ready for the reversal attempt, because they knew that a lot of “red states” would be asking for variances or the reg eliminated. Bush listened, and then got creamed in the press for it.

If Romney wants to stop or reverse this coal reg flurry, he’d better have a PR campaign set up to discredit Obama, the environmentalists and, if that fails, set up FERC to pass on the higher costs of power generation to the urban areas that voted for Obama. Give the Obama voters what they want - higher power rates. Crush them under power rate increases like they’re seeing in Germany - up to a quadrupling of power rates (per kWh) for environmentally-correct power.


38 posted on 11/04/2012 5:05:06 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Surely the states or the coal companies can tie up EPA & these regs in court until Jan. 20, 2013.


39 posted on 11/04/2012 8:17:08 PM PST by WVNan
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To: markomalley
Environmentalists at the EPA pulled this trick before in 2000 when the Clinton administration rushed out a finding that Mercury emissions from power plants were a growing public health threat pursuant to the Clean Air Act. That finding did not regulate power plants itself, it did force the Bush administration to begin a lengthy regulatory process

That's because Bush didn't have the balls to tell the EPA to shove their regulations up their ass. That was because he mostly agreed with them, being that he was a "compassionate conservative", IE liberal.

I'm sorry that I ever supported the sorry SOB. But at the time what were my choices? Gore? Blech. The traitor Kerry?

40 posted on 11/04/2012 8:34:29 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: markomalley

“a select few costly regulations that would then be very hard for a President Romney to undo”

Why can’t a Romney admin. undo what the Obama admin has done? I understand that the career beurocrats stay on, but if they refuse to do what they are instructed to do by the new director of the agency, that is grounds to fire them, no?


41 posted on 11/05/2012 7:36:46 AM PST by milemark (Wait 'till they get a load of my binders...)
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To: markomalley

If the Republicans fail to take the Senate, President Romney will be essentially stymied in making any type of changes, including repealing nobamacare.


42 posted on 11/06/2012 5:15:01 AM PST by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November 6th MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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