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CONFIRMED: US Benghazi SEALs Had Laser Capability
Gateway Pundit ^ | November 4,2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 11/04/2012 7:25:15 AM PST by Hojczyk

The US SEALs had laser capability and for 5 hours and 15 minutes were wondering when the air support would show up. But it never came.

Tyrone Woods begged for air support on 9-11 before his death. It never came. FOX News reported:

Sources who have debriefed the team that was at the CIA annex the night of the attack in Benghazi say that the CIA operators from the Global Response Staff, or GRS, were equipped with Mark 48 machine guns and had two types of laser capability. Each weapon had both a “passive” as well as a “visible” laser that could be used against the Libyan attackers.

The presence of laser capability on the roof of the CIA annex confirms what Fox News sources that night in Benghazi originally said, which is that they had laser capability and for 5 hours and 15 minutes were wondering where the usual overhead air support was, especially since, according to this source, they radioed from the annex beginning as early as midnight asking for it.

The presence of lasers raises more questions about why air support was not sent to Benghazi even protectively once it became clear that the fighting had followed the CIA rescue team back to the annex.

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1 posted on 11/04/2012 7:25:19 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Pat Caddell, Democrat pollster:
“I am appalled right now. This White House, this president, this vice president, the secretary of state, all of them are willing apparently to dishonor themselves and this country for the cheap prospect of getting reelected, willing to cover up and lie, and the worst thing is, the very people who are supposed to protect the American people and the truth, the leading mainstream media, they have become a threat, a fundamental threat to American democracy and the enemies of the American people.

What I saw with Ty Woods’ father and family and the outrage I feel for my country and the shame that these people have no honor, and when will people finally say it? Cover-up is too nice a word, and the media is the one that it’s worse on.”


2 posted on 11/04/2012 7:27:52 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

“the leading mainstream media, they have become a threat, a fundamental threat to American democracy and the enemies of the American people”
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Thank you Pat for helping to expose a corrupt and dangerous media for what they are. They have become the enemy from within.


3 posted on 11/04/2012 7:35:05 AM PST by Starboard
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To: TurboZamboni

Does this imply that Woods (Rest in Peace) did not use the laser after all? There was a contrarian report that there was no painting of a target by laser. Do we know if the story still holds that he did laser, out of desperation?


4 posted on 11/04/2012 7:35:32 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Hojczyk

Libyan authorities have not given the U.S. military permission to fly armed drones over populated areas like Benghazi. However, for some time the unmanned aerial drones that have been watching Libya’s chemical weapons sites did have permission to be armed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/what-laser-capability-did-benghazi-team-have/#ixzz2BGff3utq

A play date POTUS and his make believe State Dept. pretending to ask a fantasy Lybian government permission to over fly a non-existing sovreign nation. Curioser and curioser. And BTW Epic Fail.


5 posted on 11/04/2012 7:38:25 AM PST by Calusa (‘We’re going to have that person arrested.....that did the video,” said Hillary Clinton.)
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To: Hojczyk


6 posted on 11/04/2012 7:43:29 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Hojczyk

Be careful. This is the baloney the Democrats are throwing out to confuse the issue. FOX News is reporting that there was GLD in Benghazi. These machine gun lasers are just being thrown out so the Democrats can say,”Well, you can’t guide bombs in with those lasers.” But you can with a GLD. The GLD shows Panetta is telling a lie when he says they couldn’t send aircraft to bomb the attackers because they were afraid of “collateral damage” (bombs killing innocent civilians or damaging their property). With a GLD they could have dropped laser-guided bombs within a few feet of the attackers that the GLD was pointed at. They could have sent jets to help save the 30 Americans under attack in Benghazi. There is no other excuse but that our President Obama didn’t want to send military rescue. Why?


7 posted on 11/04/2012 7:50:11 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Diogenesis
Someone needs to ask these Crooks why did the Mission have laser capability? Only two answers possible, in order to protect the Mission from the air, or they were part of the Gun giveaway program to the Islamist. Obviously both damning.
8 posted on 11/04/2012 7:51:18 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Starboard

The following is a MUST SEE video for anyone following the Benghazi story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6YMSWSfmwY&feature=youtu.be


9 posted on 11/04/2012 7:52:20 AM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: TurboZamboni
There have always been corrupt politicians willing to do anything to stay in power. The media is there to report the truth to the public, but there have always been dishonest media trying to slant the news to benefit their biases. The offset is that the press would offer a range of perspectives and allow the public to make judgments.

The major media has been compromised and is no longer a "free press".

10 posted on 11/04/2012 7:53:31 AM PST by oldbrowser (Shellac Barac)
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To: oldbrowser

The major media has been compromised and is no longer a “free press”

This is exactly why they are referred to as “State-run media”.


11 posted on 11/04/2012 7:54:46 AM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: blueunicorn6
I agree. Initial reports were that he was painting the targets. It would be something like this;


12 posted on 11/04/2012 7:59:28 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: Hojczyk
Nothing I have read about Benghazi yet is not explained within the logic prism of Obama withholding Cross-Border Authority. Nothing.

Benghazi's Smoking Gun: Only President Can Grant Cross-Border Authority (PJMedia link)

Free Republic thread link

13 posted on 11/04/2012 8:03:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hojczyk

every American armed responder that fateful night was TECHNICALLY a civilian —because only the CIA was responding. Why not the US military? Because while he was fully briefed with the technically hightest imaginable level of information of the unfolding events, he simply DID NOT ORDER IT.

Guys with guns DID show up, and to the ignorant civilian world it really does LOOK like there was at least SOME kind of military response. But that is WRONG —the military moved heaven and earth to APPROACH Libya as closely as they could but the Commander and Chief simply took NO FURTHER ACTION.

Formal military action would have had to cross a national border, and that authorization only could have come from the Prez.

Barry owns this lock, stock and barrel —Barry alone is responsible for those four deaths, and that night it’s likely that he was prepared for almost 40 deaths.

Many individuals and platforms were busy as heck preparing for a huge response, and Barry’s part would have involved simply saying a single word.

But even THAT was too much for him —I cannot imagine a person less appropriate for the office of President, and that includes Jimmy Carter.


14 posted on 11/04/2012 8:11:12 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Hojczyk

e-mail Weasely/Colon

The New York Times just announced that Retired General Colin Powell had endorsed Obama for President. I think it only fair that a more complete list of endorsements by general officers be published:

Obama’s Military Endorsements:

General Wesley Clark, USA, (Ret)
General Colin Powell, USA (Ret)
Major General Paul Eaton, USA (Ret)
Admiral Donald Gutter, USN, former JAG of the Navy, (Ret)
Admiral John Nathman, USN, (Ret)

Mitt Romney’s Military Endorsements:

Admiral James B. Busey, USN, (Ret.)
General James T. Conway, USMC, (Ret.)
General Terrence R. Dake, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral James O. Ellis, USN, (Ret.)
Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, USM, (Ret.)
General Ronald R. Fogleman, USAF, (Ret)
General Tommy Franks, USA, (Ret)
General Alfred Hansen, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald Jackson Hays, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Thomas Bibb Hayward, USN, (Ret)
General Chuck Albert Horner, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Jerome LaMarr Johnson, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Timothy J. Keating, USN, (Ret)
General Paul X. Kelley, USMC, (Ret)
General William Kernan, USA, (Ret)
Admiral George E.R. Kinnear II, USN, (Ret)
General William L. Kirk, USAF, (Ret)
General James J. Lindsay, USA, (Ret)
General William R. Looney III, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Hank Mauz, USN, (Ret)
General Robert Magnus, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral Paul David Miller, USN, (Ret)
General Henry Hugh Shelton, USA, (Ret)
General Lance Smith, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Leighton Smith, Jr., USN, (Ret)
General Ronald W. Yates, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN, (Ret)
Lieutenant General James Abrahamson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edgar Anderson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marcus A. Anderson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buck Bedard, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral A. Bruce Beran, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Lyle Bien, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Harold Blot, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General H. Steven Blum, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bowman III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bucchi, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter E. Buchanan III, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard A. Burpee, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Campbell, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General James E. Chambers, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward W. Clexton, Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marvin Covault, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Terry M. Cross, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William Adam Dougherty, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Brett Dula, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Gordon E. Fornell, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral David Frost, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Henry C. Giffin III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Peter M. Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard D. Herr, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas J Hickey, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter S. Hogle, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ronald W. Iverson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Donald W. Jones, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Douglas J. Katz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Jay W. Kelley, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Tom Kilcline, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Timothy A. Kinnan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Harold Koenig, M.D., USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Albert H. Konetzni, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buford Derald Lary, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Frank Libutti, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Stephen Loftus, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Michael Malone, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Justin D. McCarthy, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William McCauley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Joseph S. Mobley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Dave R. Palmer, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John Theodore “Ted” Parker, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry L. Parks, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles Henry “Chuck” Pitman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Steven R. Polk, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joseph J. Redden, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Clifford H. “Ted” Rees, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edward Rowny, USA (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Dutch Schultz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles J. Searock, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General E. G. “Buck” Shuler, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Alexander M. “Rusty” Sloan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General David J. Teal, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Billy M. Thomas, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Donald C. “Deese” Thompson, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Herman O. “Tommy” Thomson, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Thurman, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert Allen “R.A.” Tiebout, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USNR, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General George J. Trautman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry R. Trexler, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Claudius “Bud” Watts, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William “Bill” Welser, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thad A. Wolfe, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General C. Norman Wood, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Michael W. Wooley, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard “Rick” Zilmer, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Chris Adams, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry Amos, USN (Ret.)
Major General Nora Alice Astafan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Almon Bowen Ballard, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General James F. Barnette, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Barrow, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John R. Batlzer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jon W. Bayless, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John E. Bianchi, USA, (Ret.)
Major General David F. Bice, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Linda J. Bird, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Black, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Peter A. Bondi, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John L. Borling, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Tom Braaten, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert J. Brandt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jerry C. Breast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Bruce B. Bremner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Brown III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David P. Burford, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Calvert, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay A. Campbell, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry Canterbury, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James J. Carey, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Nevin Carr, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Stephen K. Chadwick, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W. Lewis Chatham, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeffrey G. Cliver, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Casey Coane, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Isaiah C. Cole, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stephen Condon, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard C. Cosgrave, USANG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert Cowley, USN, (Ret.)
Major General J.T. Coyne, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Crates, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James P. Davidson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Kevin F. Delaney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James D. Delk, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay Ronald Denney, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Robert S. Dickman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James C. Doebler, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas O. Dollar, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Hunt Downer, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas A. Dyches, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Jay T. Edwards, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John R. Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Francis L. Filipiak, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Flatley III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Charles Fletcher, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bobby O. Floyd, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Veronica Froman, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Vance H. Fry, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral R. Byron Fuller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George M. Furlong, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Frank Gallo, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ben F. Gaumer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harry E. Gerhard Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Major General Daniel J. Gibson, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Andrew A. Giordano, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard N. Goddard, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fred Golove, USCGR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Eric Grant, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeff Grime, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Kent Guest, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Tim Haake, USAR, (Ret.)
Major General Otto K. Habedank, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Hall, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald P. Harvey, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Leonard W. Hegland, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John A. Hemphill, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Hereth, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Wilfred Hessert, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Hickman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey Higginbotham, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Weldon F. Honeycutt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steve Israel, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James T. Jackson, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John S. Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tim Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ron Jesberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Pierce J. Johnson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven B. Kantrowitz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Kavanaugh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Dennis M. Kenneally, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Michael Kerby, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Kunkel, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey C. Lambert, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Arthur Langston, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas G. Lilly, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James E. Livingston, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Al Logan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John D. Logeman Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Noah H. Long Jr, USNR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Loren, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Andy Love, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven Wells Maas, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert M. Marquette, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Marsh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Clark W. Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General William M. Matz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Gerard Mauer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. McDaniel, MD, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral E.S. McGinley II, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry C. McKinney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Messerli, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas S. Metcalf, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John W. Miller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Patrick David Moneymaker, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Mario Montero, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Douglas M. Moore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Walter Bruce Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General William Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Burton R. Moore, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James A. Morgart, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stanton R. Musser, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Natter, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert George Nester, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General George W. Norwood, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Olsen, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Raymund E. O’Mara, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert S. Owens, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Paddock, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Paret, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert O. Passmore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard E. Perraut Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gerald F. Perryman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W.W. Pickavance, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John J. Prendergast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fenton F. Priest, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David C. Ralston, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bentley B. Rayburn, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Rich, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Roland Rieve, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tommy F. Rinard, USN , (Ret.)
Major General Richard H. Roellig, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Michael S. Roesner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. Ryan, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Loran C. Schnaidt, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Carl Schneider, USAF , (Ret.)
Major General John P. Schoeppner, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Edison E. Scholes, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William S. Schwob, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General David J. Scott, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hugh P. Scott, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard Secord, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William H. Shawcross, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Joseph K. Simeone, USAF and ANG , (Ret.)
Major General Darwin Simpson, ANG , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Greg Slavonic, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Oliver “D.O.” Smart, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Richard D. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Donald Bruce Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Paul O. Soderberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. “Bob” Spiro, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry B. Stelling, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Daniel H. Stone, USN, (Ret.)
Major General William A. Studer, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hamlin Tallent, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Hugh Banks Tant III, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Larry S. Taylor, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General J.B. Taylor, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas R. Tempel, USA , (Ret.)
Major General Richard L. Testa, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jere Thompson, USN (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Byron E. Tobin, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Larry Twitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Russell L. Violett, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General David E.B. “DEB” Ward, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Charles J. Wax, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John Welde, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gary Whipple, USA , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James B. Whittaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Charles Williams, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral H. Denny Wisely, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Theodore J. Wojnar, USCG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George R. Worthington, USN, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur Abercrombie, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John R. Allen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Loring R. Astorino, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Averitt, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Garry S. Bahling, USANG,(Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald E. Barnhart, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Charles L. Bishop, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Clayton Bridges, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jeremiah J. Brophy, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General R. Thomas Browning, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David A. Brubaker, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Chalmers R. Carr, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Fred F. Caste, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Clements, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Christopher T Cline, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Peyton Cole, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard A. Coleman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mike Cushman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Peter Dawkins, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Sam. G. DeGeneres, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Demers, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Howard G. DeWolf, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur F. Diehl, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David Bob Edmonds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Anthony Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Norm Gaddis, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert H. Harkins, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas W. Honeywill, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stanley V. Hood, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General James J. Hourin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack C. Ihle, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas G. Jeter, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General William Herbert Johnson, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Kenneth F. Keller, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Wayne W. Lambert, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jerry L. Laws, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas J. Lennon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John M. Lotz, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert S. Mangum, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Frank Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joe Mensching, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard L. Meyer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Lawrence A. Mitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael P. Mulqueen, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ben Nelson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack W. Nicholson, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Maria C. Owens, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dave Papak, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Gary A. Pappas, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Paschon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allen K. Rachel, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jon Reynolds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Edward F. Rodriguez, Jr., USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Roger Scearce, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John Serur, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joseph L. Shaefer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Graham Shirley, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Raymond Shulstad, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stan Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ralph S. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald Smith, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David M. Snyder, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael Joseph Tashjian, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Louis Ursone, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Earl Van Inwegen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Terrence P. Woods, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mitchell Zais, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allan Ralph Zenowitz, USA, (Ret.)


15 posted on 11/04/2012 8:14:00 AM PST by tumblindice (Joe Biden masticates in public, often at the dinner table. Stop Slow Joe!)
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To: Hojczyk

What happened to those laser painters? Will they be used against our own troops somehow?


16 posted on 11/04/2012 8:15:07 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Hojczyk

With the laser capability confirmed; should our Military conclude the laser capability was not authorized by current ROE, and therefore ignored, because ROE must supersede a desire and dedication of our Military to Serve and Protect each other? Did zer0 and his crowd leave them behind because the laser capability was not authorized under ROE? No doubt, congress should be in emergency session. If the People do not have the right to know, as this drags further and further away from the truth, does our Military have the right to know why they were left behind?


17 posted on 11/04/2012 8:17:22 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Thanks. Great photo. Many civilians don’t understand what a GLD is used for or what it looks like. It would sure help if you would put that photo on all the posts about Benghazi.


18 posted on 11/04/2012 8:21:44 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Probably taken out with our people or destroyed. Could possibly be used as a decoy, but not likely. I don’t believe they have laser-guided weapons.


19 posted on 11/04/2012 8:25:01 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hojczyk

20 posted on 11/04/2012 8:25:38 AM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Predator 1 video 9:18

Watch that nine minute video on the Predator drone. Laser sighting on the ground is unnecessary. It is designed for urban strikes with the capability of hitting a target as small as a truck. It has optical capabilities that allow it to see individual people from five miles up. It can see if they have rifles or rocket tubes in their hands. It sees at night with infrared.

All of those same sighting and munitions capabilities are used on AC-130 gunships and Apache attack helicopters. All of those vehicles are able to lay down precision fire without anyone on the ground lazing targets. All of those excuses are utter BS!

21 posted on 11/04/2012 8:45:56 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: blueunicorn6
FOX News is reporting that there was GLD in Benghazi. These machine gun lasers are just being thrown out so the Democrats can say,”Well, you can’t guide bombs in with those lasers.” But you can with a GLD. The GLD shows Panetta is telling a lie when he says they couldn’t send aircraft to bomb the attackers because they were afraid of “collateral damage” (bombs killing innocent civilians or damaging their property). With a GLD they could have dropped laser-guided bombs within a few feet of the attackers that the GLD was pointed at. They could have sent jets to help save the 30 Americans under attack in Benghazi. There is no other excuse but that our President Obama didn’t want to send military rescue. Why?


Even if the laser was a “dumb” laser it could be used for targeting a Predator.

The GLD is a designator and would guide a missile/bomb to a target. The Predator has enough sensors on it -

http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=122

- that it could pick up where the dumb laser was pointing and use it to target it's weapons. When a target is identified, the Predator can use it's own designator to guide the Hellfire missiles.

A GLD would be nice, but probably not essential, to getting a pinpoint attack.

22 posted on 11/04/2012 8:52:25 AM PST by az_gila
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To: FreeAtlanta
Initial reports were that he was painting the targets. It would be something like this...

There are compact laser rangefinders / target designators that are designed to mount on one of the many accessory rails on the Mk 48 machine gun.

23 posted on 11/04/2012 8:54:31 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: All

Here is an updated timeline of the events in Benghazi.

http://wecheck.org/wiki/Benghazi_Attack_Timeline


24 posted on 11/04/2012 9:02:31 AM PST by fudimo
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To: TigersEye
Why not fire on the targets? Did ROE prevent engagement?
Congress asks not? If not now, when?
One would think the drive-bys would want to know?
Unless as has been said, it does not fit the template.
Guess we should just believe all not asking why
have our best interests there in play for us.
Where does one go if what one believes does not fit the template?
An apology TigersEye, am simply frustrated coverage
has not broken forth in full force.
25 posted on 11/04/2012 9:02:50 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Charles Martel

I still don’t understand why we didn’t at least have some jets fly over at 100 feet and 1,000 mph to force the muzzies to be more cautious, maybe disperse and to show our guys that we had their backs.

I despise this worthless administration.


26 posted on 11/04/2012 9:07:42 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: TigersEye

Yep. Good point.


27 posted on 11/04/2012 9:09:27 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: no-to-illegals
Fire with what? That's the question. The PTB have admitted that there were two drones overhead but have not said whether or not they were armed. They have said that nothing else was in the air and from all we know from other sources that would seem to be true. No rescue was sent.

Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

28 posted on 11/04/2012 9:09:57 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: blueunicorn6; All
Heads up to everyone.

I tweeted @AmbJohnBolton, he is going to be on FOX at 1210 eastern to talk about Benghazi. I hope he brings up CBA.

That is on right about NOW!

29 posted on 11/04/2012 9:14:35 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Calusa
Libyan authorities have not given the U.S. military permission to fly armed drones over populated areas like Benghazi.

Did "Libyan authorities" give permission for NATO to provide air support to the rebels when Khadaffi was in power?

I didn't think so.

30 posted on 11/04/2012 9:14:59 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: az_gila

Yep. Good point. I never worked with drones. I was always taught “to keep eyes on the target”. I guess what I’m trying to get across is that Panetta is telling a lie. We obviously had intell on what was happening and could have put a lot of steel where the enemy was located with a minimal chance of harming non-combatants. They are really trying to cover this up and what I didn’t want was Panetta saying tomorrow that, “Gee, those lasers were just to help aim the machine guns on the ground.”


31 posted on 11/04/2012 9:16:32 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hojczyk

We have been reading of the laser for about six weeks now.


32 posted on 11/04/2012 9:18:59 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: TigersEye
Where are out nearest Predator bases near or in Libya?

The silly argument by the Obama butt kissing media that we couldn't get and armed response to help our men is preposterous.

33 posted on 11/04/2012 9:18:59 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks.


34 posted on 11/04/2012 9:20:43 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigersEye
Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

and why zer0 didn't is what has me most disturbed!

ROEs ... DANG THEM (sorry FReepers) DANG THEM ALL!
Four died. Many others have died! These ROEs are
killing our People, our Military People, and the
drive-bys will not commit a common curiosity as
asking why? What country do we live in?
What is the use of caring about our Military,
if our own government hates them.

Once more an apology TigersEye. It isn't your
fault. It is my fault. I care, and know you and all here
care too. This has become frustrating to me. Shouldn't
rant, but is not enough, enough?
Growing tired of waiting for the drive-bys!

35 posted on 11/04/2012 9:20:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
No need to apologize. If you're not mad then you're either not paying attention or you don't care about our country. Not something you or most FReepers are guilty of. I am livid. Beyond livid.

I don't know what ROEs 0coward was enforcing. He gave CBA to get bin Laden. He gives CBA for drone strikes in populated areas of northern Pakistan. He gives CBA for drone strikes in Yemen. He gave CBA for a rescue mission in Somalia a little while back. He never asked permission from those three nations.

Here we had 41 Americans, all employed by him, under attack and he didn't give CBA for a rescue mission. It's as simple as that. He's a coward and a traitor.

36 posted on 11/04/2012 9:29:10 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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For our media lurkers and those on board with the drive-bys ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZORUsMbXdIU&feature=related
37 posted on 11/04/2012 9:30:24 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: az_gila

See the video linked in post #21. Predators don’t need to have a target lazed. Neither do AC-130s or Apache helicopters.


38 posted on 11/04/2012 9:32:52 AM PST by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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Take a listen drive-bys. Why not? ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cIOH-5mQyk&feature=related
39 posted on 11/04/2012 9:35:30 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: All
The laser the ignorant press is talking about is an AN/PEQ15. This is a small unit mounted to the rails of an M-4 or M-16 or other battle rifle.

It has both a visible and infrared laser as well as a visible and IR flashlight and is used for close to mid distance sighting for that individual firearm. The IR laser or flashlight is used with night vision goggles for the sole purpose of aiming the rifle.

The AN/PEQ15 is not used to identify targets for missiles or bombs.

40 posted on 11/04/2012 9:54:56 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer
Yep.

A PEQ is not a GLD.

41 posted on 11/04/2012 10:00:02 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: tumblindice

I’m sure this highly esteemed individual is on your Romney list also: General H. Norman Schwarzkopf


42 posted on 11/04/2012 10:25:31 AM PST by conservativesister
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To: oldbrowser

The Press and “journalists” have been indoctrinated and taught that their mission is to bring about “Social Justice” and “fairness”, not provide objective data and information. The so-called “Chicago School” of journalism does this by “comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable”, or some such language.


43 posted on 11/04/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by CPO retired
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To: All

Programming note - live Hannity show on FNC tonight at 9:00 pm.


44 posted on 11/04/2012 11:14:25 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Feel the Power - GOP Tsunami Warning Issued for November 6th)
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To: Hojczyk
The US SEALs had laser capability

Have we all just decided that these were active duty SEALS?

45 posted on 11/04/2012 2:00:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: DAC21

Spectre is normaly the platform used as lead and cover for these types of missions. Spectre was on station or Woods would not have painted the target. The laser has to sync up with the weapon system on the AC-130U. He would not stop laying down fire to expose his position unless he was in communication. Someone gave the order for the platform to stand down. One day we will find that crew and get the truth.


46 posted on 11/04/2012 2:17:20 PM PST by DeWalt
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To: ansel12

No. They weren’t. But some people have difficulty making the distinction and do not realize that spies and those who work for spy agencies often do not have anyone to bail them out of sticky situations and that the public rarely hears about such events. We never would have heard about this if an ambassador had not been involved. Since an ambassador was involved, the president should have done everything to rescue all of the Americans in the line of fire that night. But it appears no one was thinking about the fallout of having four dead Americans including an ambassador. Maybe things would have been different if the ambassador had been taken out of the burning/smoke-filled building and taken to the annex/spookhouse.

There are so many questions about that night and the lead up to that night. Little security. Security taken away. No equipment for the ambassador and Sean Smith to be able to deal with fire or smoke within the safe room or whatever it’s called. No adequate escape plan. Etc. Why did our president have our ambassador and state department employees in Benghazi with such inadequate protection? I am sure all four of the men who died knew of the risks involved.

Americans do not like it when their own government gives them the Baghdad Bob treatment. The preposterous video story was laughable. Do we have no one more creative to come up with an adequate explanation for a bunch of radical Muslims attacking a US mission housing a US ambassador with inadequate security and with a bunch of spies living there and even more spies living a mile or so away? But the executive branch is not informing the American people what our objectives are in the Middle East. Are we spreading freedom? What is the end game?


47 posted on 11/04/2012 2:25:51 PM PST by petitfour
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To: gaijin

Something else to think about. We are constantly sending armed drones into Pakistani air space and hitting targets with the Pakistan goverment protesting but we still do it. We sent a Seal team in with stealth aircraft so they would not be alerted and they protested but we still did it and this is a country with nuclear weapons. So what was so important we could not risk it in Libya with a questionable government?


48 posted on 11/04/2012 2:26:10 PM PST by DeWalt
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To: petitfour

If “The US SEALs” weren’t involved, then we need to quit reporting that they were.

One of the four was an Air Force veteran but we don’t keep reporting that the “US Air Force” was there, because of him.


49 posted on 11/04/2012 5:36:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: ansel12

There are no former or ex SEALs as there are no former Marines.


50 posted on 11/04/2012 6:24:47 PM PST by DeWalt
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