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EPA Regulations Wreak Havoc on Ohio Coal, Electric Companies
Red State ^ | 11/1/2012 | staff

Posted on 11/04/2012 4:14:03 AM PST by tobyhill

The Utility Maximum Achievable Control Technology (MACT) rules imposed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) are taking a toll on Ohio’s coal industry and are expected to increase citizens’ electricity costs. Utility MACT, a series of bureaucratic regulations created under the Clean Air Act with the support of President Obama and U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH), has already caused coal-fired plant closures and layoffs.

Even as natural gas production ramps up in the state, the fact that 82 percent of Ohio’s electricity is generated using coal suggests Utility MACT will also increase energy costs statewide. Natural gas prices paid by utility companies hit a 10-year low of under $2 per million British thermal units in April 2012, but Reuters reported on October 24 that prices have risen substantially as national production has flattened and an expected cold winter approaches.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coal; epa; epaoutofcontrol; obama

1 posted on 11/04/2012 4:14:07 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
... "necessarily skyrocket..."


2 posted on 11/04/2012 4:25:10 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: tobyhill

Obama just keeping his promises. When Obama keeps his promise bad things happen.


3 posted on 11/04/2012 4:26:37 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: tobyhill

What’s amazing is he outright said he was going to destroy the coal industry.


4 posted on 11/04/2012 4:27:36 AM PST by PatrickHaggerty
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To: tobyhill

Ok Ohio, the ball is in your court: reelect Obama and watch your electricity bills skyrocket. You can be assured that the only reason they have risen but not skyrocketed is that Obama needs a second term to do maximal damage to the American economy with his radical green ideology. Perhaps you are under the delusion that Obama will pay your electric bill. Suppose he does. Will he also pay the electric bill of small businesses that suffer even more from high electric rates? Will he keep industry from moving to China where electricity will cost 1/10 as much?


5 posted on 11/04/2012 4:29:10 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: PatrickHaggerty

I have an acquaintance with a man who works for one of the coal-fired plants down here in southern Ohio, on the river bordering W. Virginia. In 2008, he warned his co-workers about that very thing—even pointing them to the words Obama had spoken. Many either denied it or said ‘he can’t do that.’ They’re listening now...and they’re ticked.


6 posted on 11/04/2012 4:30:08 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: tobyhill
Fools in the Enviro-Wacko Party could care less that the Utilities won't suffer one cent of losses; they just pass costs right onto Consumers, and spend Billions on Lobbying to make sure they are not economically-harmed.

Look at the "Donations" from Ohio Utilities, and how their CEO's sit on all the "Task Forces" to protect their bottom-line.

Look, also, at the multi-million-dollar Executive Compensation structures, and tell me how they are being hurt?

7 posted on 11/04/2012 4:37:49 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: tobyhill

Bump


8 posted on 11/04/2012 4:43:29 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: tobyhill

My post from an earlier thread:

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Check out the map.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=209611697914812565322.0004bb627ee4991874568&msa=0&ll=39.707187,-96.899414&spn=21.595648,46.538086

The Eastern half of the US is going to be devastated. Zoom in on individual states to see locations better. Click on the blue pointers to see info. The column on the left gives more details.

With all these plants closing, what do we do for electrical energy? The remaining plants can’t possibly handle the load and I don’t see large numbers of “clean” plants under construction.

This is something Romney should start pounding on. Bring out the charts in each state and show people what obama has planned for them.

This is just another spike in our coffin if allowed to continue. The obama master plan marches on.

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From:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2937886/posts


9 posted on 11/04/2012 5:04:30 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: palmer
Ok Ohio, the ball is in your court: reelect Obama and watch your electricity bills skyrocket.

Check out the map I link to in my post #9. Not just Ohio will be affected. Virginia has a few, too, as does almost every state east of the Mississippi.

10 posted on 11/04/2012 5:10:01 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

-——what do we do for electrical energy? ———

We will generate power with clean, nonfracked natural gas


11 posted on 11/04/2012 5:29:19 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: tobyhill

EPA

ENERGY PREVENTION AGENCY

don’t know why I didn’t think of this earlier....


12 posted on 11/04/2012 5:52:24 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: bert
We will generate power with clean, nonfracked natural gas

If you look at the map and click on the various plants listed, you will see that they are listed as being closed, not converted to natural gas. I don't hear of any new NG plants being built near where I live to replace the coal-fired ones that are being closed.

The assumption seems to be, "Well, since the economy is down, we don't need that extra capacity."

The fact is that the loss of that capacity will not help the economy recover.

13 posted on 11/04/2012 5:53:43 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
-----nonfracked natural gas----

It is a joke.......

14 posted on 11/04/2012 7:02:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Right Wing Assault

I just looked at your map and it is scary to see AEP plants to be closed. I know people who worked at those plants!

I retired from an AEP coal plant a few years back. They use low sulfur Wyoming coal and the plant is extremely clean.

The EPA is now requiring them to install scrubbers to remove that miniscule amount of sulfur left, and install a bag house.

The problem is, the Public Service Commission will not allow them to pass along the cost of building the EPA mandated scrubbers. So the plant may be shut down and abandoned.


15 posted on 11/04/2012 7:14:18 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: PatrickHaggerty
What’s amazing is he outright said he was going to destroy the coal industry.

And the numbskulls in PA, VA, IL, OH and other coal states voted for the bastard anyway.

16 posted on 11/04/2012 7:16:00 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: bert

Well, there IS such a thing.

You never can tell a joke online as I’ve learned when mine were misinterpreted.

Best to use a “/s” when there’s any doubt.


17 posted on 11/04/2012 7:19:25 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

WV coal mines have been shut down by the EPA. Lots of miners where at the early voting polls in WV yesterday a.m. according to my brother. A couple in their 80’s were there and needed help with the voting process. He suspects they never voted before. No way were they voting for the boy!


18 posted on 11/04/2012 7:23:16 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
remove that miniscule amount of sulfur left

Yeah, you never know when that last molecule of sulfur might bump into a human somewhere along the way. /s

19 posted on 11/04/2012 7:24:57 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: tobyhill

This would not have happened if Sarah Palin was V.P.


20 posted on 11/04/2012 7:27:43 AM PST by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thanks for the EPA closing plant link - I’m spreading it around.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 7:31:31 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: bert
We will generate power with clean, nonfracked natural gas

We will get much more power out of unicorn farts and pixie dust than what you suggest ...

22 posted on 11/04/2012 7:31:57 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: presently no screen name
WV coal mines have been shut down by the EPA.

Yep ... I'm very angry about that ...

"We" voted for McCain last time, will almost certainly vote for R0mney this time.

The real problem is that "we" continue to vote for democRat turds like Manchin.

I'm supporting John Raese for Senate ... hope it does some good.

23 posted on 11/04/2012 7:35:26 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Walmartian

DITTO Bump!


24 posted on 11/04/2012 7:36:19 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: bert
We will generate power with clean, nonfracked natural gas

If you think there is sufficient "nonfracked" natural gas to generate more than a small fraction of our energy requirements in the future, you're sadly mistaken.

And, if you are anti-fracking, you have fallen victim to envirowhacko propaganda and are grievously malinformed.

25 posted on 11/04/2012 7:42:04 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

It’s a joke!!


26 posted on 11/04/2012 7:53:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’ve driven by the New Castle plant a lot when I go to Hermitage from time to time. This plan has to stop and the EPA defunded and told to go something that is biologically impossible.


27 posted on 11/04/2012 8:17:20 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: bert
It’s a joke!!

A /s would've helped... (:^))

28 posted on 11/04/2012 8:22:23 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Yeah, I’ve had misinterpreted posts too, had one yesterday. Like you said, add a /s /sarc or some sort of smiley.


29 posted on 11/04/2012 8:32:10 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: ArrogantBustard

No state is spared from getting turds somehow slip in and cause calamity one way or another and most voters don’t pay attention. My brother keeps me updated a bit on WV. I’m believing obama days are over with LOTS of clean up to do. The EPA needs to be abolished as the first order of business after obamacare. I know Newt had that on his agenda.

Now I’m hoping for an early Tuesday night with no rebellion from ‘the boy’. Then those in charge can put the Lazer on Barry Benghazi and make his last days torturous.


30 posted on 11/04/2012 8:32:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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