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Executive-order panic: Martial law in U.S.?(can O suspend the elections?)
WND ^ | 03/18/2012 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 11/03/2012 9:01:47 AM PDT by Be Careful

The White House’s late-week release of an executive order has sent the online community into an uproar, worried that President Obama had secretly provided himself means to institute martial law in America.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012dncstrategy; bho2012; elections; martiallaw; obama
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Can anyone ascertain if this order can be applied to this current Sandy situation in order to interfere with the election?

Bloomberg appears to be a co-conspirator in this possibility.

1 posted on 11/03/2012 9:01:55 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

Nope.


2 posted on 11/03/2012 9:04:51 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Be Careful

Not unless they amend, revise the Constitution............


3 posted on 11/03/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Be Careful

No.

Stop the madness!


4 posted on 11/03/2012 9:05:46 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Be Careful
Really? the same way that Bush did it to give himself a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. term?

F this cr@p.

5 posted on 11/03/2012 9:06:33 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: unixfox

I am happy that you seem very clear on this....by what mechanism, given his own order, would he be blocked?

I read that Bloomberg wants 20 days more in order to hold elections in NYC.


6 posted on 11/03/2012 9:07:03 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

No, the doofus cannot legally suspend the elections. Certain states, under their own accord to so, but the-guy-in-the-white-house cannot.(That is if I understand correctly)

We didn’t even suspend them during the Civil War, why do it because of a storm. It has NEVER been done.


7 posted on 11/03/2012 9:07:07 AM PDT by madison10 (I love it when My plan comes together ~~God)
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To: Be Careful

Article indicates headline is too far a stretch...and I agree.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 9:07:53 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Be Careful

I think they recycle these articles every 4 years. Seriously, it ain’t happening.


9 posted on 11/03/2012 9:08:47 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: madison10

No president ever had the power per the executive order that O has assigned himself. I hope someone can explain this order to us.


10 posted on 11/03/2012 9:08:59 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful
Funny! The idea that this nasty incompetent fool could take
military control is laugh provoking. I'm sure he could kill a lot of his fellow citizens. But at the end of the day the putrid mess he has stirred up will again settle in the Universities, newsrooms, union halls and schools.
11 posted on 11/03/2012 9:09:29 AM PDT by Hans
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To: Be Careful
I think it is too late with the election in only 3 days.

Secondly, the federal government is failing miserably re: Sandy and would doubtful want even more responsibility when it can't bear up under what it already has.

And as to Bloomberg, Sandy may be his undoing. People are starving and homeless and Bloomy still thought the Marathon should go on.

12 posted on 11/03/2012 9:09:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Be Careful

Is this where the huge stash of hollow-point bullets (for Obama-run government agencies) might come in? Only for a contingency, of course.


13 posted on 11/03/2012 9:10:33 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Jail to the Chief!!)
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To: Be Careful

It won’t happen because the repercussions would be enormous.

To suspend the elections would require an act of Congress. The pResident has no such power regardless of any executive order he creates.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 9:10:42 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Be Careful

This is tin hat stuff IMO. The military would not be complicit in a martial law scheme. There are limits to their pledge to obey.


15 posted on 11/03/2012 9:12:27 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Be Careful

Please folks.....All you “Martial Law” theorists forget one important fact. Martial Law in the US is unenforceable. Unless of course the politicians stand up the militia. :-)


16 posted on 11/03/2012 9:13:18 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Be Careful

Are there not any legal mechanisms to prevent this power grabbing? Can’t congress or the SCOTUS say hey you can’t do that?


17 posted on 11/03/2012 9:14:23 AM PDT by cwbys4evr (number obsessed poll watcher)
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To: Be Careful

No, but I would truly love to see him try to.

LLS


18 posted on 11/03/2012 9:14:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Be Careful

Congress determines when presidential elections are to be held, whuch they did in the 19th century (firest Tuesday after the first Monday in Nov.). The individual states actually run the election. The president has no say in the matter.


19 posted on 11/03/2012 9:17:36 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: RoosterRedux

I wish that the marathon had gone on without him having to face the political pressure of the last few days.
He finally would have been exposed but people yelping about it beforehand helped him to keep the mask in place.
Bloomy is still an out of touch a****** of the highest sorts and I have a feeling that he isn’t going to handle the aftermath of Sandy so well.


20 posted on 11/03/2012 9:18:12 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: cwbys4evr
Congress nor the SCOTUS , nor the media have done anything to stop the unlawful,unconstitutional executive orders this Obama communist has already done (including the unlawful executive order that passed the Dream act Amnesty for a million illegals).
21 posted on 11/03/2012 9:18:39 AM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: mkmensinger

Sorry for the typos. Must be this keyboard. :^)


23 posted on 11/03/2012 9:20:31 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Be Careful

Considering the source I am not too worried as WND does not have a very good track record in my opinion.


24 posted on 11/03/2012 9:21:00 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Be Careful

Please, we can only hope he tries to suspend the election. It would be the end of the Demon-rat party.


25 posted on 11/03/2012 9:21:53 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Be Careful; All

Can he do it? Yes. Will he do it? He is dumb enough to do so

As much talk as the GOP at the Fed level puts out...when it comes to countering Obama...they wimp out (ObamaCare, Birth Certificate/Eligibility). Same with those who are posting on here that allude to Obama doing such as “Conspiracy Theory”...same ones who gave Obama a pass on eligibility. The Fed Level GOP, and their supporters, would roll over for Obama

The one thing that would prevent an Obama Exec Order to suspend elections is that the State and local jurisdictions do have a lot of rights when it comes to conducting elections. and, tend to have more backbone to stand up to Obama. Also, there would not be enough manpower to enforce an Obama X Order dealing with the election

Simply...Obama probably would not get away with an X order dealing w elections...but only a fool or liberal would think he would not try...and no one Fed Level will stop him.


26 posted on 11/03/2012 9:24:21 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Be Careful

Even if knuckled head Obama did declare a nationwide martial law ....

Do you actually think such a thing could be implemented...?

When it is all said and done we are a nation of 50 sovereign states....DC declare Martial Law and a vast majority of the Governors would ....yawn....

Really this whole thread should be pulled for sheer stupidity of the idea...


27 posted on 11/03/2012 9:30:01 AM PDT by Popman (November 7th...will be a good day for America..)
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To: Be Careful
The conspiracy you should be weary of is the one by a certain website that specializes in alarmist misleading headlines written for the sole purpose of generating web-hits.
28 posted on 11/03/2012 9:30:44 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
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To: basil

You forgot to annotate your remark as sarcasm.

Consta-what? What is that?


29 posted on 11/03/2012 9:31:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Be Careful
Just for info...........

US CODE TITLE 3, Ch.1

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3 USC Ch. 1, Table of Contents

Time of appointing electors

§ 1. The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

Failure to make choice on prescribed day

§ 2. Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.

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THE CONSTITUTION Article II

Section 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.


The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.



30 posted on 11/03/2012 9:45:43 AM PDT by deport
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To: Be Careful

No. The vote goes on, as scheduled.


31 posted on 11/03/2012 9:48:17 AM PDT by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: Hans
The idea that this nasty incompetent fool could take military control is laugh provoking.


32 posted on 11/03/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: cwbys4evr

The messiah has allowed international tankers into NY harbor to deliver gasoline as an invite to the jihadists and a recipe for a terrorist attack and an excuse to institute martial law and postpone elections, just saying.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 9:52:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Be Careful
Becareful...you better be careful yourself....I notice that you signed up just before the 2010 elections ....all I've seen you do today is stir up trouble....

go back into hiding.......your negativism is not needed nor wanted and its highly suspicious of Dumbunderground....

34 posted on 11/03/2012 9:58:57 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SeminoleCounty
Back in the lead up to Y2K there was much talk bandied about regarding Clinton siezing the opportunity to stay in office beyond his second term via the same mechanism.

My reaction at the time was that he wouldn't, not because he lacked the desire or the scruples, but simply because he didn't believe he would be able to get away with it.

My sense here is much the same. If Obama felt he could somehow implement and get away with it, he would not hesitate to do so, but I suspect at present, the most sober of his advisers would caution him against even attempting it.

Besides, they've been working on their election fraud plans far too long to let them be for naught.

35 posted on 11/03/2012 10:04:33 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Be Careful

Beware Blog Pimps, all it does is drive site traffic and line their pockets. Once the election is over they will change with the prevailing breeze and go in a new direction.

Folks you need to understand how the Internet is different from MSM. They live and die with advertising, as we say “go where the eyes are” With the explosion in use of the Internet and Smartphones and digital media distribution it is no surprise to me what is going on here.

When you visit these sites they make money, period. You may (or may not) find useful info here but if they can keep you coming back with the latest version of “porn” then they are working you like a cheap whore. Alexa, the main ranking service for web site traffic is what motivates them and as long as you feed the Lion they will keep pumping the crap.

This is reality and the wave of the future but you have to look at their track record, are they acting like a store checkout magazine with the latest hot gossip or are they a solid source of trusted info? It is the same decision, now made digitally about deciding to buy or not buy a copy of the NYT and trusting them to drive what you think.

This is my business and much more beyond it, but as long as you act like an animal that likes to be sheared on a regular basis they will keep doing the same thing.


36 posted on 11/03/2012 10:05:38 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: cherry

Have you actually read Obama’s Executive Order, dated March 2012?

Here it is from the WH:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

Sounds like you posted after your third martini, so I will forgive your hurtful and rude comment, just this once.


37 posted on 11/03/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

if the storm hit the shores on election day he might have had an excuse. But not now. He isn’t king he needs other people to back him on something like that.


38 posted on 11/03/2012 10:08:07 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

My remarks are not sarcastic.


39 posted on 11/03/2012 10:13:33 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: deport

Thank you for posting that information—I was trying to find time to look it up.


40 posted on 11/03/2012 10:17:02 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Be Careful

Wonder if he will suspend his ban on Big Gulps....


41 posted on 11/03/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

That is FUNNY!! but at the same time so sad, because it actually reflects the alternate universe that these people live in.......suddenly Big Gulps would prove useful.....


42 posted on 11/03/2012 10:21:30 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: mosaicwolf; Be Careful

I too have worried about Martial Law over the years as a political weapon. It’s taken me some time to realize that Martial Law can only work if the Law abiding go along with it. Lose them and you lose it all.

And that goes for all levels of government too.


43 posted on 11/03/2012 10:32:40 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

The scary part is that the top levels of the military seem to be in the process of re-configuartion......then, O has the DOJ, the Military and the Press....the perfect storm


44 posted on 11/03/2012 10:40:37 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

You make good points, but the government also has to have the PEOPLE, when they lose the LAW-ABIDING percentage of the populace Martial Law can’t be adequately enforced everywhere. Certainly it can be done in relatively small areas, but everywhere? It would take the cooperation of the citizenry to do so.

And that’s where the media comes into play and their power has been waning for years. Yes they are still strong and as long as they can stay in front of a story with their chosen spin they can keep things going the way they want it to go. But with alternative means of getting out the opposing point of view being more prevalent that power diminishes quickly and believe me, their are few things more powerful than an irate person or populace that knows they have been fooled and mislead and can DO something about it.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 10:54:21 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: basil

The constitution is no more.


46 posted on 11/03/2012 10:55:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Be Careful

Concern     Much ? ?

47 posted on 11/03/2012 10:57:49 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Be Careful
. . . and in case you're NOT a 'concern troll' you need to get a grip and grow a pair !

(or borrow some if'n yer a gyrl ;-)

48 posted on 11/03/2012 11:00:20 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Joe 6-pack

because he didn’t believe he would be able to get away with it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Exactly! That is why we have a Second Amendment.

If it weren’t for the Second Amendment the communists would be slaves today. The Marxists would have already made their move decades ago.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 11:11:24 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Well—we need to fix that!


50 posted on 11/03/2012 11:27:41 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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