Belle Harbor
and Rockaway Park
And I thought the nor’easter that hit in December 1992 was bad . . .
Posted on 11/03/2012 6:08:53 AM PDT by tobyhill
Survivors of Superstorm Sandy welcomed glimmers of hope as services resumed in some areas, but for those quivering in dark and unheated homes, relief was not coming fast enough.
About 2.7 million customers remained without power Saturday across 15 states and the District of Columbia. And some may be in the dark for another week, according to utility officials.
Frustrated residents, worried about plunging temperatures, said companies are not working fast enough to restore power.
"The power company sent us an e-mail alert saying we'll have to wait more days," said Pankaj Purohit, whose apartment is next to a marina in Jersey City, New Jersey. "We have already been waiting for five days."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
IBEW is chasing those non-union workers out. They want fat over-time checks for as long as they can drag this job out. The old and the young be damned.
” “The power company sent us an e-mail alert saying we’ll have to wait more days,” said Pankaj Purohit, whose apartment is next to a marina in Jersey City, New Jersey. “We have already been waiting for five days
Then those unions shouldn’t have sent away those crews from Alabama for being non union, correct?
Proof of global warming!
Too bad the libs can’t translate drum-banging into a useful power source
“””””IBEW’s Fault!””””
I’m sure you actually meant W’s Fault!
And how much more endangerment is there? NOLA Looting was front & center nationally by the MSM; NY City looting made the NY Post & seemed to die there, except for a few things about Coney Island looting making it out...
What about the economic effect upon hourly wage-earners in the darkened areas? The ones who can't simply use up excess sick/vacation time? The ones who in some areas are already paying higher-than-your average rents & leases & mortgages?
Where is the MSM telling us their plight? Why is the MSM awol not only on Libya, but the aftermath?
They seemed to go from "prep for the hurricane" to "oh, it's only a superstorm, let's move on..." ... and these residents would love to "move on," but that's not a reality for many living condition-wise, transportation-wise, and job-wise...
In the Katrina aftermath, per the MSM, George Bush was THE god of the fed safety net who somehow failed to protect the vulnerable; With Sandy, the MSM, not wanting much negative press to go to any Dems up for re-election, are doin' the Wall Street (& the rest of Manhattan) shuffle...
Cities do not do enough to prepare for things like this. They simply can't.
People need to be more self reliant. My pantry is always overstocked, but not with the MRE stuff, but real food we use all the time and just rotate. Natural gas backup generator. Gas generator in the garage. I have 2 50 gallon drinking water barrels (from my Boy Scout days) that I can fill in advance of any emergency. I could easily last a month (provided the natural gas stays on. Thought about propane but took the gamble)
It would be tough to do this in a city. Just not enough space.
So perhaps it was a little premature for Christie to be quite so vigorous in praising what a “wonderful job” President Obama was doing on Sandy. Not to mention a little imprudent one week before a major election. I don’t begrudge Christie having a joint photo op with Obama, but he didn’t have to be so effusive in his praise.
It’s supposed to get to the 30s tonight there, with a real chill to it, ‘feeling’ in the mid-20s.
There are going to be more deaths from this.
Hmm... Wonder if the Staten Islanders will be stupid enough to go for Obama come this Tuesday or sit out the election; or, are they mad enough to vote Romney-Ryan?
Yes, a simple “Thank you for coming,” would have been sufficient.
The problem is that New York and New Jersey don’t have solar arrays and wind turbines like California. When the earth quake desrtoys large sections of the state, the wind and solar arrays will provide power not dependent on the roads and transport system
Staten Island is already a Republican bastion in New York City. They’ll be voting Romney for “revenge” against Obama and Doomberg and Cuomo.
I'm sorry they're still without power but the power infrastructure is a mix of components no doubt installed over a period of decades. It cannot just be "fixed" overnight no matter how many people you throw at it. Brings to mind the classic book "The Mythical Man-Month".
Convenient, huh?
After 30 plus yrs in S Fla I was without power on many occasions and watched power be restored all around me.As a utility worker I was aware of how the local”grid” was wired and understood why the guy behind me had poewer and I did not.
Yes it frustrating especially when after a hurricane,trop storm what ever I was working 14 hour days restoring service for others only to go home and take cold showers and live out of a cooler and on one occasion for 3 weeks.
Some of these people in Jersey and NY are unreasonable and as always act like self centered idiots.
A week with out power is not unheard of. When you look around you and poles are snaped off,on the ground and lines look like spahgetti dangling every where than guess what,its gona be a long f’en time so deal with it or get out.
The fuel situation is another story:
1. I'm kind of surprised that the gas stations wouldn't have backup electric systems to run the pumps, at least for a day or two. I suspect some of them -- the larger chains, anyway; Lukoil, Sunoco, Getty, Shell, etc. -- may implement backup plans after this.
2. The anger needs to be directed at government. Who knew there were so many restrictions in place to prevent the easy transportation and sale of fuel? This is the "gift" of the environmental whackos. I notice that I haven't heard even one Northeast liberal complain about the "evils of Big Oil" for the last week.
Sandy: category 1
Katrina: category 5
Sorry - should done my homework better. Katrina was down to a category 3 by the time it made land...
The Saffir-Simpson scale has flaws. You can’t just look at windspeed for the potential severity of a storm.
Katrina had Cat 5 surge.
Gas Stations are kinda like a franchise,if the owener dont want to install a gen its his call.
Bump
Also hard to pass along the cost of a generator to the customers when you only make a few pennies per gallon.
Yes, I understand that. But I presume that the franchising parent company wants the station to stay in business, yes? Now that this storm has exposed a flaw in their ability to sell fuel, I think that the franchiser and franchisees may work together to come up with a backup power solution. Because there will always be another storm at some point.
This was more than just a hurricane. It was a hurricane merging with a nor’easter. Those outside the northeastern states may not be familiar with this kind of storm — think of it as kind of a “reverse hurricane.” Instead of bringing tropical moisture and pressure system coming from the southeast, it’s North Atlantic moisture, Arctic air masses, and a rotation from the northeast. We have to deal with these storms every year — some severe, some not so bad — although they usually don’t start so early in the year. These two systems collided and combined with a cold air front coming down from Canada. Sandy was rather a unique storm from a meteorological POV.
There is no power on the entire Rockaway Peninsula. Word is they’ll be bringing in ‘voting trucks’ on Tuesday.
Yes, but the storm surge was cat 5. That is what did the most horrific damage.
Belle Harbor
and Rockaway Park
And I thought the nor’easter that hit in December 1992 was bad . . .
À 10,000 kw generator costs no more than $1200. More than enough to run multiple pumps, lights, office etc.
Back in 1968 and or 1969 people in Northeastern South Carolina and surrounding areas were without power in some cases for MONTHS following an ice storm. The plant where I worked shut down for a week and the initial effort was all geared toward getting people back to work. Some of those out in the country simply went back to living like their grandparents had lived. Those in the towns were worse off. One vice president of the company I worked for had to pack up his family and go to another state for weeks. It has been more than forty years and there has not been another ice storm approaching what we had those two years. The second one was the worst, it wrecked so many huge oak trees that it was months before we stopped hearing chain saws literally around the clock. When the ice melted from the roads you could drive for many miles and not see a single utility pole still standing.
With the old pumps forty years ago it was possible to open the housing and run a v-belt from a small gasoline engine to a pulley on the pump and pump gasoline. With the new pumps that is probably not possible.
Five days is nothing. Just saying. I’ve been without power for two weeks due to an ice storm. I doubt anybody is dawdling given all the attention the problem is getting. It takes time to repair extensive damage to power lines, poles and transformers. There is no getting around that.
that’s a great price, should buy one......
Don’t buy more kw than you really need because keeping enough gas on hand is a major challenge, esp. if you have air conditioners to run. Yankees have it far easier this way.
Thanks, needed that !
Is there not a HUGE Muslim population in New Jersey? Surely those who prefer the 12th century can`t complain about lack of power and other perks of modern civilization. Nor should the liberal `greenies`. Now they can enjoy the primitive lives they glorify. Awww ...as someone who faces thes conditions EVERY year,and who has suffered through Betsy,Camille,Andrew,Katrina and Issac(8 days no power 100 deg apt) I find it hard to pity people in 50degrees who can`t take a tropical storm in the wealthiest part of the country.
So, is Staten Island being ignored by the recovery effort because they are a republican bastion?
It’s hard to tell. I think it’s mostly GROSS incompetence on the part of Governor Cuomo and Mayor Doomberg.
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