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Scientists say it's unfair to blame climate change for Sandy
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 30, 2012 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 11/02/2012 6:58:37 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

Climate scientist Michael Oppenheimer stood along the Hudson River and watched his research come to life as Hurricane Sandy blew through New York.

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Sandy took an unprecedented sharp left turn into New Jersey. Usually storms keep heading north and turn east harmlessly out to sea. But a strong ridge of high pressure centred over Greenland blocked Sandy from going north or east, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University, an expert in how a warming Arctic affects extreme weather patterns, said recent warming in the Arctic may have played a role in enlarging or prolonging that high pressure area. But she cautioned it's not clear whether the warming really had that influence on Sandy.

While components of Sandy seem connected to global warming, "mostly it's natural, I'd say it's 80, 90 per cent natural," said Gerald North, a climate professor at Texas A&M University. "These things do happen, like the drought. It's a natural thing."...

(Excerpt) Read more at ctvnews.ca ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; sandy
AP? Or did CTV change the title?
1 posted on 11/02/2012 6:58:38 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Who cares what scientists say?
Left wing politicians and activists know far better!


2 posted on 11/02/2012 7:02:47 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: neverdem

Barry and his New Yawk butt boy, Mickey Doomberg, have to blame SOMEBODY! Their Blame It On Bush thing has been played out.


3 posted on 11/02/2012 7:02:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama bin Laden is dead, Chrysler moved to Italy and China.)
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To: neverdem

UNFAIR

Since when did that matter?


4 posted on 11/02/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The way those two were talking, you could be forgiven for thinking they were about to roll out the “BLAME BP” bandwagon again.


5 posted on 11/02/2012 7:06:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: neverdem; SilvieWaldorfMD
It's a bunch of nonsense. Andy Parks at the Washington Times did some research today and found that since the eighteenth century, 84 hurricanes had struck New York, with the worst probably being in 1938.
6 posted on 11/02/2012 7:18:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: neverdem

Won’t faze libs in the least.


7 posted on 11/02/2012 7:28:20 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Timber Rattler

I remember a hurricane pattern study from several years ago. The gist of it was hurricanes have strike patterns that go through cycles of 50 years or so. We have been in a Gulf strike cycle for about that time and are (as per the study) entering an Atlantic seaboard strike cycle.

If this is what is happening the AGW folks will get absolutely rabid after several good whollops to the mid and upper atlantic coast.


8 posted on 11/02/2012 8:02:02 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Bon mots

LOL!


9 posted on 11/02/2012 8:17:24 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Timber Rattler

Thanks for the link.


10 posted on 11/02/2012 8:22:37 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Windmills get built and storms explode! Seems clear to me that windmills are causing this weather.


11 posted on 11/02/2012 8:22:40 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: neverdem
Mehgan McCain has spoken, therefore it's settled.

Geeze you scientists sure are dumb not to believe what all my friends tell me to be true.


12 posted on 11/02/2012 8:24:09 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife ( USA 1776-2008)
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To: neverdem

Full moon high tide at landfall made this less than Cat 1 storm the killer, not AGW...


13 posted on 11/02/2012 8:32:56 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: Imperialist

...plus a much higher population density than 50 years ago, and people building their houses right up to the surf line.


14 posted on 11/02/2012 8:36:12 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: neverdem

80-90% natural? LOL, that means that God contributed 10-20%, God being the only supernatural being I’m aware of.

BTW, I’d like to see the math behind that claim since man contribution to co2 in the atmosphere is small and the major greenhouse gas by far is Hydrigen dioxide.


15 posted on 11/02/2012 8:38:37 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Timber Rattler

Agreed, totally... Built out to the edge of insane.


16 posted on 11/02/2012 8:48:29 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: Imperialist
Full moon high tide at landfall made this less than Cat 1 storm the killer, not AGW...

That wasn't the only feature.

Roger Pielke: Hurricanes and Human Choice

Its central pressure was the lowest ever recorded for a storm north of North Carolina, breaking a record set by the devastating "Long Island Express" hurricane of 1938.

The lower the pressure, then as night follows day, the greater the storm surge also.
17 posted on 11/02/2012 10:23:58 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
I'd say it's 80, 90 per cent natural," said Gerald North, a climate professor at Texas A&M University.

I'd say you made those numbers up out of thin air and how does he keep his job? I thought Texas was a conservative state.

18 posted on 11/03/2012 3:50:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.
19 posted on 11/03/2012 5:45:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: neverdem
Sandy took an unprecedented sharp left turn into New Jersey.

Things have been turning sharply left in New Jersey for decades.

20 posted on 11/03/2012 5:52:10 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: McCloud-Strife

Looks like she has it all backwards.


21 posted on 11/03/2012 5:55:20 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: McCloud-Strife
Looks like someone needs to straighten her out.


22 posted on 11/03/2012 5:56:37 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: neverdem

True, the low pressure was another big factor. Lots of variables came together just right to cause this, none of which can be attributed to AGW or climate change... Another interesting feature was the way the jet stream sucked Sandy into shore when it got east of NJ, just accelerated it’s landfall, which had to pack part of the punch as well... Landfall was predicted around 8pm, but then it just accelerated, was interesting to watch the radar/satellite loops...


23 posted on 11/03/2012 8:33:38 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: Timber Rattler

Being in Delaware, the one true case of a hurricane hitting my area was Isabel in 2003. This was the case in my lifetime where a hurricane, or rather a tropical storm, showed winds of over 50 mph. In terms of flooding, that would have been Floyd in 1999, however, every storm since then we’ve upgraded the dams and sluice gates so that the flooding doesn’t happen again.


24 posted on 11/03/2012 9:21:56 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Timber Rattler

Being in Delaware, the one true case of a hurricane hitting my area was Isabel in 2003. This was the case in my lifetime where a hurricane, or rather a tropical storm, showed winds of over 50 mph. In terms of flooding, that would have been Floyd in 1999, however, every storm since then we’ve upgraded the dams and sluice gates so that the flooding doesn’t happen again.


25 posted on 11/03/2012 9:22:27 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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26 posted on 11/04/2012 11:49:53 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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